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post Oct 10 2022, 07:31 PM, updated 4y ago

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Is it advisable to change the whole lower arm while only the bushing is broken ? My car is Honda City SEL. Not sure whether it's better to chnage lower arm or change the bushing only while keeping the lower arm since new car .

Got guototed RM400 for genuine Honda lower arm (each side), aftermarket only cost less than RM300 per set, while bushing only gt 3rd party parts, dont have genuine Honda...

Which one should i go for ? Is it worth to get a pair of genuine Honda lower arm , I must admit that Honda parts are pretty reliable back then. Never replaced any bushing before, after 15 yrs , now only gt problem bangwall.gif
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post Oct 10 2022, 08:01 PM

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I re use the arm and change to polybush. Last longer but it’s harder than stock
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post Oct 10 2022, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ Oct 10 2022, 08:01 PM)
I re use the arm and change to polybush. Last longer but it’s harder than stock
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Where to get polybush ? confused.gif
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post Oct 10 2022, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(kiTZss @ Oct 10 2022, 08:12 PM)
Where to get polybush ?  confused.gif
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Search for polyutherene bushing for your car model on Google/Facebook/Mudah and you might be able to find it. Otherwise you can buy it online from overseas and get it delivered.
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post Oct 10 2022, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(kiTZss @ Oct 10 2022, 08:12 PM)
Where to get polybush ?  :confused:
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I got super flex or something flex purple color one from online. Ordered from UK

My mech press out old bush and repress new bush and voila

But keras sikit la nice for track day
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post Oct 10 2022, 10:41 PM

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Rm400 for 15 years is a good deal
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post Oct 11 2022, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Oct 10 2022, 10:41 PM)
Rm400 for 15 years is a good deal
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Nvr replaced the lower arm and its bushing since new car until now. Now suspect the bushing kaput, not sure whether RM800 can sustain another 15 yr rclxms.gif
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post Oct 11 2022, 09:27 AM

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3 choices,

1. Replace bush only, price be like RM300 - 400 +-(I might be wrong about the price)
2. Replace the whole lowered arm, price also be like RM400 +- per(My jazz 2014 just replace the whole left and right lowered arm last year)
3. Replace bush to poly bush, price be like RM600 +-(Then be less comfort, mostly those track kaki will upgrade this)
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post Oct 11 2022, 09:58 AM

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the general view on this is:
1. why change whole arm when you can replace bush?
2. 3rd market arm is not that much diff than just replacing bush + labor.
3. not many places can press out the bush and replace.

so decide on your own.
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post Oct 11 2022, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Napalm_man @ Oct 11 2022, 09:27 AM)
3 choices,

1. Replace bush only, price be like RM300 - 400 +-(I might be wrong about the price)
2. Replace the whole lowered arm, price also be like RM400 +- per(My jazz 2014 just replace the whole left and right lowered arm last year)
3. Replace bush to poly bush, price be like RM600 +-(Then be less comfort, mostly those track kaki will upgrade this)
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400 got both sides include labour ?Ori perodua parts?
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post Oct 11 2022, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(kiTZss @ Oct 11 2022, 10:42 AM)
400 got both sides include labour ?Ori perodua parts?
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Per item, exclude labor fees. Not sure how much for perodua but for honda the price range is there.
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post Oct 11 2022, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Napalm_man @ Oct 11 2022, 10:47 AM)
Per item, exclude labor fees. Not sure how much for perodua but for honda the price range is there.
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Sorry, saw jazz as myvi... I saw some selling 350 each side claiming to be Ori honda malaysia parts... Labour price usually how much?
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post Oct 11 2022, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(kiTZss @ Oct 11 2022, 10:54 AM)
Sorry, saw jazz as myvi... I saw some selling 350 each side claiming to be Ori honda malaysia parts... Labour price usually how much?
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If honda service center would be slightly expensive, other usual workshop I think around RM100 +- depends on area.
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post Oct 11 2022, 12:03 PM

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My thoughts on this, I normally go back for Ori lower arm.. no1 reason being, overal quality and durability.. Your ball joint will be on its way out soon too due to age. so do it once and do it right.. everytime you remove the lower arm and reinstall you will need to realign your wheels.

as for aftermarket arms some do work very well.. but these days quality in this area seems to be a big issue.

for replacement of bushes these generally dont last for rubber ones.. There are polyurathane bushes out there in the market, expect it to be at a durometer of 80-85 and above. My weekend car is on Prothane bushes. So ride quality is not too bad, but where it really differs is the NVH. As much as i love the more direct feel of Poly bushes, on my daily car i still use factory original stuff for the best balance between comfort and performance. Hope this helps you decide.
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post Oct 11 2022, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(kiTZss @ Oct 11 2022, 06:54 AM)
Nvr replaced the lower arm and its bushing since new car until now. Now suspect the bushing kaput, not sure whether RM800 can sustain another 15 yr  rclxms.gif
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Since it lasts so long and satisfactory, replacing whole arm is better in my opinion. Eliminates workmanship issues although minimal, plus u cant get an ori bushing i think. Only aftermarket ones which might not last as long. Again another risk
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post Oct 12 2022, 09:04 AM

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Have done both the whole arm replacement and only bush replacement on some of my cars.

Bush replacement can be a real pain for the mechanic and time consuming especially when rust has 'fused' the bush assembly into the housing. Unless your mechanic has a hydraulic press, most will end up hammering, heating, or sawing off the bush outer brace to replace them. I saved about rm50-rm80 between both but the car took 1 to 2 hours (I wait at the shop while its being worked on), in comparison to only 15-30mins by swapping the whole arm.
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post Oct 12 2022, 08:01 PM

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I baru changed BOTH lower arms. Car rides like new now!
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post Oct 12 2022, 10:13 PM

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Need replacement on driveshaft as well. Any brand suggestion ? Anshin ? Lucas? ODM ? or GSP ? get quoted RM1500 each side Honda Malaysia parts, cant afford... mad.gif ranting.gif
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post Oct 12 2022, 11:24 PM

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You want advice but held back on what was the problem with the driveshafts. Certain problems with the driveshaft can be fixed without changing the entire thing.
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post Oct 26 2022, 08:39 AM

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Replaced the drive shaft at both sides , cost me rm720 all in for both sides... Is the price reasonable? The brand is Lucas btw..
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post Oct 26 2022, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(kiTZss @ Oct 26 2022, 09:39 AM)
Replaced the  drive shaft at both sides , cost me rm720 all in for both sides... Is the price reasonable?  The brand is Lucas btw..
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U got ask original Honda 1pcs how much before asking if the price reasonable..
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post Oct 26 2022, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 26 2022, 10:33 AM)
U got ask original Honda 1pcs how much before asking if the price reasonable..
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Didn't go to honda authorised sc, just asking whether anyone changed to oem driveshaft before and whether the price reasonable for oem parts ...
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post Oct 26 2022, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(kiTZss @ Oct 26 2022, 08:39 AM)
Replaced the  drive shaft at both sides , cost me rm720 all in for both sides... Is the price reasonable?  The brand is Lucas btw..
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720 for both side is reasonable, last time my vios cost around rm900 for both side, oem as well, i think the workshop take their cut as well

using oem is actually fine for driveshaft, no need to go for ori, in fact i'm using driveshaft for my car that i bought online from china laugh.gif

my car is mazda 3 2014, the shorter left shaft is around rm450, the longer right shaft is around rm550-600, both are oem price, your car shaft length is shorter so it should be slightly cheaper, but of course different brand and workshop will vary slightly in price

you can also choose to change only the side that is worn out, it is not necessary to change both

or you can also choose to repair it, the cost of repair may or may not be worth it though since the reliability depends a lot on the workmanship and quality of parts used

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post Oct 26 2022, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Oct 26 2022, 01:01 PM)
720 for both side is reasonable, last time my vios cost around rm900 for both side, oem as well, i think the workshop take their cut as well

using oem is actually fine for driveshaft, no need to go for ori, in fact i'm using driveshaft for my car that i bought online from china laugh.gif
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How much was the labour cost when u changed both sides last time?
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post Oct 26 2022, 01:21 PM

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Honda parts now can be either made in Malaysia, Thailand or China. The China ones also has a variety of grades. So this is where the price difference comes from. If you can be sure it is made in Malaysia, it is the better option. The rest are less reliable. So, unless you know someone that doesn't cheat you, it's a hit or miss.
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post Oct 26 2022, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(contagiouseddie @ Oct 26 2022, 02:21 PM)
Honda parts now can be either made in Malaysia, Thailand or China. The China ones also has a variety of grades. So this is where the price difference comes from. If you can be sure it is made in Malaysia, it is the better option. The rest are less reliable. So, unless you know someone that doesn't cheat you, it's a hit or miss.
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From my understanding, Thailand made is more better than Malaysia or China.. laugh.gif
The best is still from Japan, but when you heard the price will run away.
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post Oct 26 2022, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(kiTZss @ Oct 26 2022, 01:13 PM)
How much was the labour cost when u changed both sides last time?
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not sure, because i do my oil change and couple other things together, but i think my workshop charge me less than 100 for that

QUOTE(contagiouseddie @ Oct 26 2022, 01:21 PM)
Honda parts now can be either made in Malaysia, Thailand or China. The China ones also has a variety of grades. So this is where the price difference comes from. If you can be sure it is made in Malaysia, it is the better option. The rest are less reliable. So, unless you know someone that doesn't cheat you, it's a hit or miss.
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the parts i get from china is printed with made in japan, and ATF filter from china has made in USA molded on its plastic casing, the driveshaft i get has made in japan etched on the steel rod even though i pay the price for china oem tongue.gif

the grade you mean is actually the different brand and hence the different pricing, so far i only see either oem or japan import, except for brake pad and spark plug, and the price difference if depends on the seller end how much difference they wanna price it

i wonder how many car parts is actually manufactured in malaysia laugh.gif
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post Oct 26 2022, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 26 2022, 02:03 PM)
From my understanding, Thailand made is more better than Malaysia or China..  laugh.gif
The best is still from Japan, but when you heard the price will run away.
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No man, despite that mindset in general, our manufacturing is not that bad. This comes from my mechanic friend that services and fix my HRV.
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post Oct 26 2022, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(contagiouseddie @ Oct 26 2022, 05:15 PM)
No man, despite that mindset in general, our manufacturing is not that bad. This comes from my mechanic friend that services and fix my HRV.
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The only thing i heard from my mechanic local parts are cheap, but quality so-so. Different mechanic got different view.. laugh.gif

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post Oct 26 2022, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(kiTZss @ Oct 26 2022, 08:39 AM)
Replaced the  drive shaft at both sides , cost me rm720 all in for both sides... Is the price reasonable?  The brand is Lucas btw..
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Never heard of lucas driveshaft. Checking the website seems super simple.. probably just a company sourcing parts and rebranding to lucas.

Gsp is what i see mechanic usually suggest. If jap car usually they suggest taking original halfcut driveshaft.
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post Oct 26 2022, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Oct 26 2022, 06:17 PM)
Never heard of lucas driveshaft. Checking the website seems super simple.. probably just a company sourcing parts and rebranding to lucas.

Gsp is what i see mechanic usually suggest. If jap car usually they suggest taking original halfcut driveshaft.
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Sadly not all half-cut is suitable as our Asean Honda got different variant.
This is why my mechanic hates it and most people direct convert full half-cut from Japan with more better engine spec. tongue.gif
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post Oct 26 2022, 05:56 PM

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Drive to sunway batu cave, workshop next to t3 tyre shop, mechanic ah meng is veteran on honda brand car
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post Oct 27 2022, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 26 2022, 02:03 PM)
From my understanding, Thailand made is more better than Malaysia or China..  laugh.gif
The best is still from Japan, but when you heard the price will run away.
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I thought those claimed to be honda Thailand only oem from Japan? Not exactly from honda Thailand? Came across those honda Japan, seller only replied oem Japan, not ori honda Japan...
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QUOTE(kiTZss @ Oct 27 2022, 02:01 PM)
I thought those claimed to be honda Thailand only oem from Japan? Not exactly from honda Thailand? Came across those honda Japan, seller only replied oem Japan, not ori honda Japan...
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Coz real honda Japan stuff price expensive, so most seller will sell oem or 2nd grade stuff.
If you insits and go to official honda spare part shop they can quote for you.
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post Oct 27 2022, 02:59 PM

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You are better off just replacing the entire lower arm. Make sure you replace original Honda lower arm as they tend to last longer.

Reason why I don't replace lower bushing only is because the ball joint cannot be replaced. It is together with the lower arm assembly.
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post Oct 27 2022, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 27 2022, 01:54 PM)
Coz real honda Japan stuff price expensive, so most seller will sell oem or 2nd grade stuff.
If you insits and go to official honda spare part shop they can quote for you.
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I was quoted 1.5k for one side, 🤣😂
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post Dec 27 2024, 11:44 AM

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Any recommendations for workshops in Klamg Valley to replace lower arm bush
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QUOTE(kakikopiluwak @ Dec 27 2024, 11:44 AM)
Any recommendations for workshops in Klamg Valley to replace lower arm bush
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Dont recommend. Just get one set and call it a day. If got money go for ORI instead less pening kepala.

Unless your lower arm cost 1k+ per side then changing bush might be ok.

Replacing bush has its draws... If not aligned, it might affect other parts and also the quality of the bush.
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post Dec 27 2024, 04:59 PM

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As for me for peace of mind, change honda genuine lower arm, of course for both side.. It will last for long time
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post Dec 27 2024, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(kakikopiluwak @ Dec 27 2024, 11:44 AM)
Any recommendations for workshops in Klamg Valley to replace lower arm bush
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Unfortunately no i don't live in Klang haha

Try not to get OEM/fake lower arms if needed also go for original , because only original lower arm within the camber spec specifications , those fake lower arm need to use camber nut after changing if your car are without camber adjustment by stock is not worth the hassle annoying camber nut joke shit, check if lower arm any physical damage/crack if no then i recommend use back just changing the bush is sufficient

You can ask machine shop, bearing shop , those have hydraulic press to pump out for you just show them the service manual you have the angle of bush location needed to place before press in or take photo before pump out si you can follow the exact location , i always sendiri fix so i don't know about you ,but that the information i can give you , if your car the lower arm bush is replaceable i mean spare parts shop got sell it the bush part and also available in market.

All lower arm especially the big bush have their own specifications angle when installing, i use Subaru for example

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