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post Sep 18 2022, 07:52 PM, updated 4y ago

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Sent a car for its 1st service, these the details...

- car came with free labor for the 1st service

- 1st service either reached 1000 km or 1 month, whichever earlier

- failing to follow maintenance schedule would void the warranty on the car

- 1st service entails only checking engine oil, washer fluid, tyre pressure, etc.

- no oil change involved as engines nowadays only change engine oil after 10,000 km and oil filter after 20,000 km

- have made a prior appointment before hand.

- still need to wait after taking a queue ticket before being called to the counter to inform them why you are there and hand them the car key.

- after that, wait about another 30 minutes before you noticed the car driven inside into the service bays.

- overall, waited about 1 hour plus just for the service guy to complete the inspection. (There's no engine oil or oil filter replacement.)

---+---+---

Hello Honda,

Give free service for what?





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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 07:52 PM)
Sent a car for its 1st service, these the details...

- car came with free labor for the 1st service

- 1st service either reached 1000 km or 1 month, whichever earlier

- failing to follow maintenance schedule would void the warranty on the car

- 1st service entails only checking engine oil, washer fluid, tyre pressure, etc.

- no oil change involved as engines nowadays only change engine oil after 10,000 km and oil filter after 20,000 km

- have made a prior appointment before hand.

- still need to wait after taking a queue ticket before being called to the counter to inform them why you are there and hand them the car key.

- after that, wait about another 30 minutes before you noticed the car driven inside into the service bays.

- overall, waited about 1 hour plus just for the service guy to complete the inspection. (There's no engine oil or oil filter replacement.)

---+---+---

Hello Honda,

Give free service for what?
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Lol. Even for those who booked early morning appointments still needs to wait 3 hours for a normal service.
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Dahlah bodoh Beli Honda lagi nak bising.
Dahlah bodoh kuasa dua, nak sangat warranty, tak nak DIY.

That's your choice, so enjoy the leash lil bich.
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post Sep 18 2022, 07:55 PM

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They do checkup for u. It needs knowledge and know how which u dont have. Same like doc consultation fee. Check check ok no problem, please pay etc etc.

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post Sep 18 2022, 07:58 PM

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First time buy Honda isit?
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post Sep 18 2022, 07:58 PM

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hello!

1st engine oil change is crucial!
mostly it is mineral oil to let the engine run in properly for 1st 1k km.
do not skip.

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post Sep 18 2022, 07:59 PM

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Honda is for ladies lah. Deswai must send to SC even for simple inspection
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QUOTE(6942nole @ Sep 18 2022, 07:58 PM)
hello!

1st engine oil change is crucial!
mostly it is mineral oil to let the engine run in properly for 1st 1k km.
do not skip.
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first 1000km where got change oil yet loh
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post Sep 18 2022, 08:02 PM

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biasalah, SC memang kena tunggu lama.

other cars also need to go thru the 1000km inspection
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post Sep 18 2022, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(6942nole @ Sep 18 2022, 07:58 PM)
hello!

1st engine oil change is crucial!
mostly it is mineral oil to let the engine run in properly for 1st 1k km.
do not skip.
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1st 1000km no oil change... that's the gist of post why the 1st sevice is just a waste of time.

Only char chiew youngsters wouldn't know how to top washer fluid or check tyre pressure.

Also the battery is maintenance free type nowadays, no need to check and add battery water.


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QUOTE(AyamBannedTwice @ Sep 18 2022, 08:04 PM)
Pprt people baru upgrade from bezza?
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post Sep 18 2022, 08:06 PM

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TS ,baru tau? 1st service always no engine oil change
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post Sep 18 2022, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(AmenoJaku @ Sep 18 2022, 08:00 PM)
Honda is for ladies lah. Deswai must send to SC even for simple inspection
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Maybe. But if don't send to service center, got no chop on service book. Later anything wrong, warranty void.


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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 08:06 PM)
1st 1000km no oil change... that's the gist of post why the 1st sevice is just a waste of time.

Only char chiew youngsters wouldn't know how to top washer fluid or check tyre pressure.

Also the battery is maintenance free type nowadays, no need to check and add battery water.
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Lol, talk like an idiot.

The first 1k is for them to check if there is any problems with your car after real life usage. Some of the checks during manufacturing unable to replicate actual field usage, thats why most car manufacturer req for 1st 1k service to do those crucial checking.
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first time buy new car kah????
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post Sep 18 2022, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(ZforZebra @ Sep 18 2022, 08:02 PM)
biasalah, SC memang kena tunggu lama.

other cars also need to go thru the 1000km inspection
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After 1st year, would go change oil at tyre shop, no prior appointment no waiting bullshit...


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post Sep 18 2022, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 18 2022, 08:10 PM)
Lol, talk like an idiot.

The first 1k is for them to check if there is any problems with your car after real life usage. Some of the checks during manufacturing unable to replicate actual field usage, thats why most car manufacturer req for 1st 1k service to do those crucial checking.
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You lady driver? Crucial checking... hahaha.


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post Sep 18 2022, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 07:52 PM)
Sent a car for its 1st service, these the details...

- car came with free labor for the 1st service

- 1st service either reached 1000 km or 1 month, whichever earlier

- failing to follow maintenance schedule would void the warranty on the car

- 1st service entails only checking engine oil, washer fluid, tyre pressure, etc.

- no oil change involved as engines nowadays only change engine oil after 10,000 km and oil filter after 20,000 km

- have made a prior appointment before hand.

- still need to wait after taking a queue ticket before being called to the counter to inform them why you are there and hand them the car key.

- after that, wait about another 30 minutes before you noticed the car driven inside into the service bays.

- overall, waited about 1 hour plus just for the service guy to complete the inspection. (There's no engine oil or oil filter replacement.)

---+---+---

Hello Honda,

Give free service for what?
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first service usually to clear the oil and filter from the small metal pieces accumulated there after engine break in ler. Most important service of all (only if manufacturer haven't do it from the factory)

last time shine torchlight can see many reflective metals in the oil CarroTT

This post has been edited by terradrive: Sep 18 2022, 08:17 PM
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post Sep 18 2022, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 07:52 PM)
Sent a car for its 1st service, these the details...

- car came with free labor for the 1st service

- 1st service either reached 1000 km or 1 month, whichever earlier

- failing to follow maintenance schedule would void the warranty on the car

- 1st service entails only checking engine oil, washer fluid, tyre pressure, etc.

- no oil change involved as engines nowadays only change engine oil after 10,000 km and oil filter after 20,000 km

- have made a prior appointment before hand.

- still need to wait after taking a queue ticket before being called to the counter to inform them why you are there and hand them the car key.

- after that, wait about another 30 minutes before you noticed the car driven inside into the service bays.

- overall, waited about 1 hour plus just for the service guy to complete the inspection. (There's no engine oil or oil filter replacement.)

---+---+---

Hello Honda,

Give free service for what?
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The first service for new cars usually for orang bodo tau tekan saja

Some engine may have gasket etc that may fail coz new ma let the engine settle in and sometime may even leak oil or coolant

So its just preventive just incase especially house wife type mentality


If u know cars u still have to send to them for them to inspect themselves

Itu aja sekian

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QUOTE(meghamtaro @ Sep 18 2022, 07:54 PM)
Lol. Even for those who booked early morning appointments still needs to wait 3 hours for a normal service.
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Yeah, all bullshit appointments... like the service manager know nuts how long to do oil change and no idea what is operational management.




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Actually good tonhv hard engine break in as engine now days produced with good/tight tolerances
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 18 2022, 08:16 PM)
first service usually to clear the oil and filter from the small metal pieces accumulated there after engine break in ler. Most important service of all (only if manufacturer haven't do it from the factory)

last time shine torchlight can see many reflective metals in the oil CarroTT
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You talking about 1st service 20-30 years ago?

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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 08:13 PM)
You lady driver? Crucial checking... hahaha.
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Nope, experienced driver that know very well how mechanical things work.

Dun compare me with a newbie driver like u that just start owning a car and surprised with such a general SOP in cars. I guess u should be a papa or mama kind of boboi that get everything settle by them previously. Welcome to the adult world my boy.
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 08:19 PM)
You talking about 1st service 20-30 years ago?
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see post #28 for what i think of you too
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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ Sep 18 2022, 08:17 PM)
The first service for new cars usually for orang bodo tau tekan saja

Some engine may have gasket etc that may fail coz new ma let the engine settle in and sometime may even leak oil or coolant

So its just preventive just incase especially house wife type mentality
If u know cars u still have to send to them for them to inspect themselves

Itu aja sekian
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But said to all drivers/owners, maintenance schedule must be strictly adhered to, or else void warranty.

Plus took more than 1hr to inspect the car.

Yeah, still need to get them to 'inspect' yo get the service stamp on the service book.

This post has been edited by ScooterBoi: Sep 18 2022, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 18 2022, 08:23 PM)
see post #28 for what i think of you too
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You an idiot with poor comprehensive reading ability. Do you understand what I wrote?

Plus you don't have to rude and/or arrogant. You don't own this forum. You don't like what you read or don't understand what were written, move on, don't reply and add your stupidity.


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QUOTE(DM3 @ Sep 18 2022, 08:19 PM)
Actually good tonhv hard engine break in as engine now days produced with good/tight tolerances
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Engine break-in, not even stated in the manual book anymore unlike 20-30 years ago.


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post Sep 18 2022, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Sep 18 2022, 07:54 PM)
Dahlah bodoh Beli Honda lagi nak bising.
Dahlah bodoh kuasa dua, nak sangat warranty, tak nak DIY.

That's your choice, so enjoy the leash lil bich.
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Don't be too smart. If anything wrong, and the warranty is void, you're on your own.


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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Sep 18 2022, 08:41 PM)
First time?
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Obviously no... how else would I be talking about 1st 1000km bullshit service?

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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 08:32 PM)
You an idiot with poor comprehensive reading ability. Do you understand what I wrote?

Plus you don't have to rude and/or arrogant. You don't own this forum. You don't like what you read or don't understand what were written, move on, don't reply and add your stupidity.
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lol see the opinion if others against you, apparently they think you sre the rude one
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 18 2022, 07:55 PM)
They do checkup for u. It needs knowledge and know how which u dont have. Same like doc consultation fee. Check check ok no problem, please pay etc etc.
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Is it even necessary? You driving the car everyday, you would notice anything that is not right, no?

But then again, people been known to drive with flat tyre...


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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 18 2022, 08:48 PM)
lol see the opinion if others against you, apparently they think you sre the rude one
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Only you.


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If 1k mileage service is bulshit, then don't buy Honda.

Buy something else that doesn't come with 1k service requirement.

Your money...
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QUOTE(6942nole @ Sep 18 2022, 07:58 PM)
hello!

1st engine oil change is crucial!
mostly it is mineral oil to let the engine run in properly for 1st 1k km.
do not skip.
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They don’t do this anymore. Not perodua or Toyota or Honda. The engine tolerances are so tight now that the “mineral oil to catch metal shavings” is a bygone era story from decades ago. Engine break in is achieved at the factory thru better honing during the manufacturing stage that “sets” the grooves and wear pattern for the cylinders.

The 1k service check is just a formality/plugging on computer to do system check.
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Too many people buy honda these days
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 07:52 PM)
Sent a car for its 1st service, these the details...

- car came with free labor for the 1st service

- 1st service either reached 1000 km or 1 month, whichever earlier

- failing to follow maintenance schedule would void the warranty on the car

- 1st service entails only checking engine oil, washer fluid, tyre pressure, etc.

- no oil change involved as engines nowadays only change engine oil after 10,000 km and oil filter after 20,000 km

- have made a prior appointment before hand.

- still need to wait after taking a queue ticket before being called to the counter to inform them why you are there and hand them the car key.

- after that, wait about another 30 minutes before you noticed the car driven inside into the service bays.

- overall, waited about 1 hour plus just for the service guy to complete the inspection. (There's no engine oil or oil filter replacement.)

---+---+---

Hello Honda,

Give free service for what?
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only know complaint.,. dare u go outside of official SC n service lo.,tiuu
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QUOTE(mi-g @ Sep 18 2022, 08:02 PM)
first 1000km where got change oil yet loh
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 08:06 PM)
1st 1000km no oil change... that's the gist of post why the 1st sevice is just a waste of time.

Only char chiew youngsters wouldn't know how to top washer fluid or check tyre pressure.

Also the battery is maintenance free type nowadays, no need to check and add battery water.
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Sep 18 2022, 08:06 PM)
TS ,baru tau? 1st service always no engine oil change
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izit oni Honda or what? my trollyota 1st 1k service got change oil
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Sep 18 2022, 08:52 PM)
If 1k mileage service is bulshit, then don't buy Honda.

Buy something else that doesn't come with 1k service requirement.

Your money...
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Which car don't have to do 1000km service? Toyota?

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QUOTE(mars2003 @ Sep 18 2022, 08:57 PM)
only know complaint.,. dare u go outside of official SC n service lo.,tiuu
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What to complaint at the SC? Free service, plus the staff are employees doing their jobs.

It's Honda and it's policy on maintenance schedule or the warranty is void.

Plus this is kopitiam... just sharing my opinion on things with people here.

Yeah, yiuuuui


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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 08:58 PM)
Which car don't have to do 1000km service? Toyota?
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Perodua no need. First oil change at 10 k if i remember correctly. The manual only stated that the first one thousand km, internal friction is high so drive slowly/don’t rev the engine hard.
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wait till u go Toyota service,..
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QUOTE(SinzChan @ Sep 18 2022, 08:57 PM)
izit oni Honda or what? my trollyota 1st 1k service got change oil
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Yeah, if at least need to do oil change, then it's not a waste of time...

I think no need to do oil change, not necessary, that's the reason there's the oil filter.


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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 08:50 PM)
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 08:39 PM)
Engine break-in, not even stated in the manual book anymore unlike 20-30 years ago.
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crucial checking
engine break in 1000km
'clear the oil and filter from the small metal pieces accumulated'
experienced driver
lol
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Sep 18 2022, 09:07 PM)
wait till u go Toyota service,..
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Nissan same too...

That's why usually after 1 year, go to tyre shop for oil change.

Change insurance to preferred insurance company too.


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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Sep 18 2022, 08:55 PM)
They don’t do this anymore. Not perodua or Toyota or Honda. The engine tolerances are so tight now that the “mineral oil to catch metal shavings” is a bygone era story from decades ago. Engine break in is achieved at the factory thru better honing during the manufacturing stage that “sets” the grooves and wear pattern for the cylinders.

The 1k service check is just a formality/plugging on computer to do system check.
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ya, indeed. i checked my honda service, no 1k oil change.


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QUOTE(tifosi @ Sep 18 2022, 09:16 PM)
Don't follow later cannot change steering rack laugh.gif
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That's what's scary... warranty void. Even though that problem got nothing to do with engine oil or anything.

Lots of sensors that can failed for no reason.

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QUOTE(6942nole @ Sep 18 2022, 07:58 PM)
hello!

1st engine oil change is crucial!
mostly it is mineral oil to let the engine run in properly for 1st 1k km.
do not skip.
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honda xtukar for 1k service, already fully synth
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QUOTE(kevinc @ Sep 18 2022, 09:12 PM)
crucial checking
engine break in 1000km
'clear the oil and filter from the small metal pieces accumulated'
experienced driver
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 08:49 PM)
Is it even necessary? You driving the car everyday, you would  notice anything that is not right, no?

But then again, people been known to drive with flat tyre...
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Yes, it is necessary lo. Or u wan to count solely on your lucky stars?
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 18 2022, 09:24 PM)
Yes, it is necessary lo. Or u wan to count solely on your lucky stars?
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Yeah... just for the sake of getting the service stamp.


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yup
i read until the bolded part, i already know it's honda

and see the end there....it's really true laugh.gif
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Sep 18 2022, 09:24 PM)
honda xtukar for 1k service, already fully synth
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Nope. Even mineral, also they wont tukar. If not mistaken, the current city is using mineral and they are pushing it for 10k interval too. For previous gen city, this is wat they do, mineral at 10k interval, lmao
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Sep 18 2022, 08:55 PM)
They don’t do this anymore. Not perodua or Toyota or Honda. The engine tolerances are so tight now that the “mineral oil to catch metal shavings” is a bygone era story from decades ago. Engine break in is achieved at the factory thru better honing during the manufacturing stage that “sets” the grooves and wear pattern for the cylinders.

The 1k service check is just a formality/plugging on computer to do system check.
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Just recently?
My wife toyota, 5 yrs ago still require the 1k mileage service. It was with oil change of course
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I check Toyota, need first 1k and 5k… hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 18 2022, 09:32 PM)
Nope. Even mineral, also they wont tukar. If not mistaken, the current city is using mineral and they are pushing it for 10k interval too. For previous gen city, this is wat they do, mineral at 10k interval, lmao
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my doter city gm6 using 0w20 oil. got mineral oil at this grade?
what u wrote sound like bullshit. 10k for mineral lol
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QUOTE(accordvtec @ Sep 18 2022, 09:48 PM)
my doter city gm6 using 0w20 oil. got mineral oil at this grade?
what u wrote sound like bullshit. 10k for mineral lol
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Bullshit or not, those who drive honda will know whistling.gif
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Bullshit or not, those who drive honda will know  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Sep 18 2022, 08:55 PM)
They don’t do this anymore. Not perodua or Toyota or Honda. The engine tolerances are so tight now that the “mineral oil to catch metal shavings” is a bygone era story from decades ago. Engine break in is achieved at the factory thru better honing during the manufacturing stage that “sets” the grooves and wear pattern for the cylinders.

The 1k service check is just a formality/plugging on computer to do system check.
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my brother's ativa need 1k service. what do u mean by "they don't do this anymore"?
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QUOTE(meghamtaro @ Sep 18 2022, 07:54 PM)
Lol. Even for those who booked early morning appointments still needs to wait 3 hours for a normal service.
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Ts first time buying car? All this BS already long enough if i have children they already 20 year old
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If they don't perform such checks, and lets say there is manufacturing defect ie an oil leak causing major engine damage, then who would be responsible?
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QUOTE(accordvtec @ Sep 18 2022, 10:05 PM)
my brother's ativa need 1k service. what do u mean by "they don't do this anymore"?
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Means they don’t change the oil at one k

Maybe ativa turbo different case

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 18 2022, 09:50 PM)
Bullshit or not, those who drive honda will know  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Sep 18 2022, 10:33 PM)
I drive both civic n city. Its fully synth
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friend's accord 1.5T kena engine oil warning light at 6000km, while supposed due 10,000km. called up and was told that better send in to check. found out oil inadequate already.
is topping up oil, foc ?(before 10,000km). answer is nope, need to pay.
when asked why like that ? answer is 'turbo is like that'
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Sep 18 2022, 09:45 PM)
I check Toyota, need first 1k and 5k… hmm.gif
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I drive both civic n city. Its fully synth
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I check back the maintenance from honda, and confirm its mineral oil. RM99 is the price of mineral oil. Couple of years back, i paid around rm89 for it when i service it for my parents.

If yours is fully, then u can check how much u paid for it. Some SC will auto upgrade for u without telling u.

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U confirm u didnt add any money?
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confirm dont have la. it was the default oil chosen.
im more amazed by your hearsay claim which is obviously bullshit.

nah this one serviced last week. good luck finding 0w20 mineral laugh.gif
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confirm dont have la. it was the default oil chosen.
im more amazed by your hearsay claim which is obviously bullshit.

nah this one serviced last week. good luck finding 0w20 mineral laugh.gif
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Topkek, kena waterfish rm153, still can so proud screenshot here. Look at my post above on what is the default oil for city la dei.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 18 2022, 10:16 PM)
If they don't perform such checks, and lets say there is manufacturing defect ie an oil leak causing major engine damage, then who would be responsible?
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The 1st service is either 1000 km or 1 month, which ever comes first.

When you received the car, there's all kinds of inspections stickers on it. If there's anything (major) wrong, you will notice it immediately when driving out of the showroom.

Besides there's reliability and engineering prowess, if there's major defects only detected 1 month later, who is responsible?

Not the manufacturer if the warranty is void! smile.gif




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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 18 2022, 10:48 PM)
I check back the maintenance from honda, and confirm its mineral oil. RM99 is the price of mineral oil. Couple of years back, i paid around rm89 for it when i service it for my parents.

If yours is fully, then u can check how much u paid for it. Some SC will auto upgrade for u without telling u.

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or maybe u sendiri kiamsiap wan save money.
all my hondas from my family from city, civic, and hrv also using fully synthetic as default oil.
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QUOTE(accordvtec @ Sep 18 2022, 10:55 PM)
or maybe u sendiri kiamsiap wan save money.
all my hondas from my family from city, civic, and hrv also using fully synthetic as default oil.
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Topkek bodo spotted. Do u even know what is the basic meaning of default oil?
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 18 2022, 10:55 PM)
Topkek, kena waterfish rm153, still can so proud screenshot here. Look at my post above on what is the default oil for city la dei.
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waterfish ma waterfish la. easily afford it. even the spark plug outside i can get 65/pc also i lazy to do that and let honda kawtim all.
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 18 2022, 10:56 PM)
Topkek bodo spotted. Do u even know what is the basic meaning of default oil?
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the default oil SA chosen foe us, and also what we expected.
i would be more furious if they give mineral for 10k service.
topkek penny wise pound foolish
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 08:11 PM)
After 1st year, would go change oil at tyre shop, no prior appointment no waiting bullshit...
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QUOTE(accordvtec @ Sep 18 2022, 10:58 PM)
the default oil SA chosen foe us, and also what we expected.
i would be more furious if they give mineral for 10k service.
topkek penny wise pound foolish
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The point here is not about foolish or not. The point here is to say that honda is pushing 10k interval for mineral oil, which is a fact i had proven. But u is the one the proudly foolishly deny it, and then try to cover own malu by saying penny wise foolish la, rich to upgrade la and etc.
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my persona last time got 1k service with oil change --> yes (i think about 2018 ..not sure now)

my waifu myvi need go 1k service but no oil change and it's free (but need to wait lol)

my latest benzi no 1k service ..once start from showroom direct 12 months or 15k mileage

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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 10:55 PM)
The 1st service is either 1000 km or 1 month, which ever comes first.

When you received the car, there's all kinds of inspections stickers on it. If there's anything (major) wrong, you will notice it immediately when driving out of the showroom.

Besides there's reliability and engineering prowess, if there's major defects only detected 1 month later, who is responsible?

Not the manufacturer if the warranty is void! smile.gif
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That is why the manufacturer requires you send it back in for the first service (first inspection) at 1000kms. And its also free, why complain?
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 18 2022, 09:29 PM)
yup
i read until the bolded part, i already know it's honda

and see the end there....it's really true laugh.gif
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The other fine print is xxxx mileage or xx months, which ever comes first.

Some only touches 1000km after 6 months, and some did less than 10,000km in 2 years!

But must stick to maintenance schedule, or 5 years warranty void.


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QUOTE(accordvtec @ Sep 18 2022, 10:58 PM)
the default oil SA chosen foe us, and also what we expected.
i would be more furious if they give mineral for 10k service.
topkek penny wise pound foolish
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semi sync can go for 10k or 6 months ..no issue

my plotong by default oil is semi sync from SC

you can choose to pay more for full sync if you want


just like my old pijot last time SC default is petronas full sync; but you top up more to go for Total full sync

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QUOTE(kevinc @ Sep 18 2022, 10:37 PM)
friend's accord 1.5T kena engine oil warning light at 6000km, while supposed due 10,000km. called up and was told that better send in to check. found out oil inadequate already.
is topping up oil, foc ?(before 10,000km). answer is nope, need to pay.
when asked why like that ? answer is 'turbo is like that'
lol
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I think you must have mistaken. Honda Accord 1.5T engine oil change is based on the electronic minder from the dashboard rather than fixed 10K interval.
Your friend car indicator light came on at 6K as it is already due, this is due to driving pattern, condition etc, for example if more traffic jam, the indicator life span will be shortened.
Usual mileage for oil change is between 6K-10k depending on driving condition.
And 6K they don’t top up the oil, they change all oil. New car will not burn so much oil so early!
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 18 2022, 10:59 PM)
The point here is not about foolish or not. The point here is to say that honda is pushing 10k interval for mineral oil, which is a fact i had proven. But u is the one the proudly foolishly deny it, and then try to cover own malu by saying penny wise foolish la, rich to upgrade la and etc.
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and yet all my 3 hondas never got a mineral oil from SA.
every quote also comes with fully synthetic oil maybe you are too poor to argue so they use mineral oil for your 10k service kek
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 18 2022, 11:02 PM)
That is why the manufacturer requires you send it back in for the first service (first inspection) at 1000kms. And its also free, why complain?
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It's not necessary la. Milage is less than 500km. All for the sake of maintaining the warranty.

It's like Panasonic asking you to sent your tv for inspection after one month, else the warranty is void.

Any defects detected after 2-3 months of usage, your responsibility to get it fixed on your own means.




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Whole rant is telling you he bought honda.
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Sep 18 2022, 11:03 PM)
semi sync can go for 10k or 6 months ..no issue

my plotong by default oil is semi sync from SC

you can choose to pay more for full sync if you want
just like my old pijot last time SC default is petronas full sync; but you top up more to go for Total full sync
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we are talking about mineral oil going for 10k service interval.
well to be honest i never bother to check honda estimated service price. whatever they quoted me i on saja and all also fully syn
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QUOTE(accordvtec @ Sep 18 2022, 11:06 PM)
and yet all my 3 hondas never got a mineral oil from SA.
every quote also comes with fully synthetic oil maybe you are too poor to argue so they use mineral oil for your 10k service kek
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Ok, i rest my case then. Its a waste of time to talk to bodo like u who cant even understand basic point what ppl is trying to say.
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That's the purpose of free service

Free of cost
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Sep 18 2022, 10:59 PM)
Your new car warranty only 1 year? Hahaha
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Only if you are confident the car is not a 'lemon' and not prone to any problems after 1 year of driving it.

Previous cars, normally no more oil change at official service centers after 1 year.


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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 18 2022, 11:09 PM)
Ok, i rest my case then. Its a waste of time to talk to bodo like u who cant even understand basic point what ppl is trying to say.
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likewise, only bodo think honda push mineral oil for all car for 10k service padahal maybe at most also just city.
well if you can barely afford it, i think mineral oil is better than cooking oil rm2.5 for 1kg kek
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QUOTE(accordvtec @ Sep 18 2022, 11:14 PM)
likewise, only bodo think honda push mineral oil for all car for 10k service padahal maybe at most also just city.
well if you can barely afford it, i think mineral oil is better than cooking oil rm2.5 for 1kg kek
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Yup, agree, wonder who is the bodo that think honda push mineral oil for 10k for all car. Is that u? Lmao.

QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 18 2022, 09:32 PM)
Nope. Even mineral, also they wont tukar. If not mistaken, the current city is using mineral and they are pushing it for 10k interval too. For previous gen city, this is wat they do, mineral at 10k interval, lmao
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Sep 18 2022, 11:02 PM)
my persona last time got 1k service with oil change --> yes (i think about 2018 ..not sure now)

my waifu myvi need go 1k service but no oil change and it's free (but need to wait lol)

my latest benzi no 1k service ..once start from showroom direct 12 months or 15k mileage
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QUOTE(Twins10 @ Sep 18 2022, 11:08 PM)
Whole rant is telling you he bought honda.
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 18 2022, 11:16 PM)
Yup, agree, wonder who is the bodo that think honda push mineral oil for 10k for all car. Is that u? Lmao.
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oops, agreed i bodo on that one.
but still, only poorfag get quoted with mineral oil.
did you fight with them to get mineral oil quoted anyway? kek
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QUOTE(accordvtec @ Sep 18 2022, 11:21 PM)
oops, agreed i bodo on that one.
but still, only poorfag get quoted with mineral oil.
did you fight with them to get mineral oil quoted anyway? kek
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check the manual lah, 10k km interval, honda city, 10w30, mineral oil included.

service center let you choose what oil to put in.

even at API SL, ppl are running 10k km with mineral, now already advanced to API SN dy.
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Honda - the power of dreams.  hahaha 🤣
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That's why I buy used cars only. Got issue? Engine swap je. Still cheaper than buying new car. Dah la my time is not paid for sending the car in for simple check up. KEK

If I want to buy new, I'll be sure I don't sign to such agreement to nullify or void the warranty.
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 11:13 PM)
Only if you are confident the car is not a 'lemon' and not prone to any problems after 1 year of driving it.

Previous cars, normally no more oil change at official service centers after 1 year.
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Later other issues happen eg steering rack then you will have 2nd thoughts.
And if you sell your car within the 5 years and inform no more warranty, people will stay away or low ball u
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Later other issues happen eg steering rack then you will have 2nd thoughts.
And if you sell your car within the 5 years and inform no more warranty, people will stay away or low ball u
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No longer in position to change cars every few years... sad.gif

Honda prone to steering rack problems? Any other major issues?


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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Sep 18 2022, 11:38 PM)
That's why I buy used cars only. Got issue? Engine swap je. Still cheaper than buying new car. Dah la my time is not paid for sending the car in for simple check up. KEK

If I want to buy new, I'll be sure I don't sign to such agreement to nullify or void the warranty.
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Actually, there's no agreement to sign. Any major defects, the warranty won't be void that easily...

The car brands still got to protect their reputations and not confront the customer too readily and simply said the warranty is void just because the customer was late to do the scheduled services and replace oil and other parts, that were not related to the defect at all.



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QUOTE(6942nole @ Sep 18 2022, 07:58 PM)
hello!

1st engine oil change is crucial!
mostly it is mineral oil to let the engine run in properly for 1st 1k km.
do not skip.
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That is the old SOP. New Honda or maybe other cars also 1st 1k km is inspect only. First oil change only happen at 10k km.

It is stated in maintenance schedule.

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the 1.5tc enforces 'Engine oil replacement period depend on Engine Oil Monitoring indicator lamp or not over than 6 months (133.97)'
nice bottomless pit on oil change during 'warranty period'. car's not even 3 months old@6000km mileage. that engine oil life indicator gimmick is absolutely brilliant
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the 1k only inspection and still have the risk of void warranty. hahahaha.
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Kesian TS first time buy new car. That engine oil has been there since manufacture, needs engine run in condition check/inspection, no?

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when they mould the engine parts, it is not perfect,
some of the metal might chip off in your engine when it is running,
thus the 1K engine oil flush to prevent engine damage further
thats what i heard anyway
u can drive 10k see how it is, void warranty only
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 11:03 PM)
The other fine print is xxxx mileage or xx months, which ever comes first.

Some only touches 1000km after 6 months, and some did less than 10,000km in 2 years!

But must stick to maintenance schedule, or 5 years warranty void.
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u want the warranty thn stick to the service manual

u go buy conti cars also the same thing
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 07:52 PM)
Sent a car for its 1st service, these the details...

- car came with free labor for the 1st service

- 1st service either reached 1000 km or 1 month, whichever earlier

- failing to follow maintenance schedule would void the warranty on the car

- 1st service entails only checking engine oil, washer fluid, tyre pressure, etc.

- no oil change involved as engines nowadays only change engine oil after 10,000 km and oil filter after 20,000 km

- have made a prior appointment before hand.

- still need to wait after taking a queue ticket before being called to the counter to inform them why you are there and hand them the car key.

- after that, wait about another 30 minutes before you noticed the car driven inside into the service bays.

- overall, waited about 1 hour plus just for the service guy to complete the inspection. (There's no engine oil or oil filter replacement.)

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Hello Honda,

Give free service for what?
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No free car wash?
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Same thing as COVID vaccine.

Not guarantee and exposure to risk but require 3-4 doses.

So next life don't vaccinate and send car for first service.
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 07:52 PM)
Sent a car for its 1st service, these the details...

- car came with free labor for the 1st service

- 1st service either reached 1000 km or 1 month, whichever earlier

- failing to follow maintenance schedule would void the warranty on the car

- 1st service entails only checking engine oil, washer fluid, tyre pressure, etc.

- no oil change involved as engines nowadays only change engine oil after 10,000 km and oil filter after 20,000 km

- have made a prior appointment before hand.

- still need to wait after taking a queue ticket before being called to the counter to inform them why you are there and hand them the car key.

- after that, wait about another 30 minutes before you noticed the car driven inside into the service bays.

- overall, waited about 1 hour plus just for the service guy to complete the inspection. (There's no engine oil or oil filter replacement.)

---+---+---

Hello Honda,

Give free service for what?
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Lai, remember at the 10k service, stay there and check if they got really change the consumables and oil or not. Then check they never take your new ori parts.



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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Sep 19 2022, 12:17 AM)
Kesian TS first time buy new car. That engine oil has been there since manufacture, needs engine run in condition check/inspection, no?
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QUOTE(judas @ Sep 19 2022, 12:29 AM)
when they mould the engine parts, it is not perfect,
some of the metal might chip off in your engine when it is running,
thus the 1K engine oil flush to prevent engine damage further
thats what i heard anyway
u can drive 10k see how it is, void warranty only
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1st 1000 km service, no change oil la. Please read previous posts.

QUOTE(R231_SL65_AMG @ Sep 19 2022, 07:05 AM)
No free car wash?
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 19 2022, 06:55 AM)
u want the warranty thn stick to the service manual

u go buy conti cars also the same thing
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Yeah, better do that to avoid unnecessary dispute later.

But if car owner still adamant, and correctly dispute the claim, still got leeway at the end, abeit more hassle in the warranty claim.

QUOTE(calodin @ Sep 19 2022, 07:55 AM)
Lai, remember at the 10k service, stay there and check if they got really change the consumables and oil or not. Then check they never take your new ori parts.
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Don't bullshit la on monitoring the service job.

At big service centers, there are customer's lounge and customers not allowed into the service bays.

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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 19 2022, 11:26 AM)
Check what? You don't know how to open the bonnet and pull up the dipstick?
1st 1000 km service, no change oil la. Please read previous posts.
Don't know, didn't ask. Anyway, the car is clean.
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Only for honda, blah blah blah precise manufacturing blah blah blah tip top engine condition.

Other brands still continue on with the 1000km oil and oil filter change.



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1st 1000 km service, no change oil la. Please read previous posts.
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it is actually a good preventive measure.

we dont know how is the condition of a car coming out from factories..

my friend 1k service his FE they manage to detect steering rack problem.. claim warranty change the following week appointment..

good enough reason for me
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 18 2022, 07:55 PM)
They do checkup for u. It needs knowledge and know how which u dont have. Same like doc consultation fee. Check check ok no problem, please pay etc etc.
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need go to university of dip stick to check EO via dipstick?
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Lots of things supposedly need to be checked during first servicing - bolt tension aka no loose bolts, oil leaks, coolant leak, absorber leak. Some are easy for the average owners to check, some not so.

It's the same with any other newly purchased machines in a factory. Vendor will take readings, look see, and not necessarily just replacing lubricants.
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First 1000km is guinea pig mode. thats why manufacturers , attempt to reduce their liability.... make up rules in manual like "dont drive over (speed limit) " within this period.




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QUOTE(keyibukeyi @ Sep 19 2022, 11:46 AM)
1st service, is go there for breakfast.
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Free hot drinks in the service lounge. smile.gif

QUOTE(kevinc @ Sep 19 2022, 11:47 AM)
they don't even read first post properly
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QUOTE(tatabun @ Sep 19 2022, 11:50 AM)
it is actually a good preventive measure.

we dont know how is the condition of a car coming out from factories..

my friend 1k service his FE they manage to detect steering rack problem.. claim warranty change the following week appointment..

good enough reason for me
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Let's look at this another way.

1st, if it's a reliability matter and there's weakness in their quality inspections in passing the car out of the factory, then say so that it is mandatory to have another inspection after 1 month.

Don't hide the quality/reliability weakness and package it as a "free service" to entice the car owner to bring back the car for inspection.

And it is really mandatory, else it can void the 5 years warranty.

In other words, if house appliances industry do the same, like Panasonic asking the customer to send the new tv, fridge or rice cooker for inspection one month later, else the warranty on the appliance will be void, is it acceptable?


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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 07:52 PM)
Sent a car for its 1st service, these the details...

- car came with free labor for the 1st service

- 1st service either reached 1000 km or 1 month, whichever earlier

- failing to follow maintenance schedule would void the warranty on the car

- 1st service entails only checking engine oil, washer fluid, tyre pressure, etc.

- no oil change involved as engines nowadays only change engine oil after 10,000 km and oil filter after 20,000 km

- have made a prior appointment before hand.

- still need to wait after taking a queue ticket before being called to the counter to inform them why you are there and hand them the car key.

- after that, wait about another 30 minutes before you noticed the car driven inside into the service bays.

- overall, waited about 1 hour plus just for the service guy to complete the inspection. (There's no engine oil or oil filter replacement.)

---+---+---

Hello Honda,

Give free service for what?
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yes, this is the standard experience for most if not all manufacturer service centers. this is why i stopped going to honda service center right after my 5 years warranty was up. the wait times are horrendous.
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QUOTE(Eurochem @ Sep 19 2022, 11:56 AM)
need go to university of dip stick to check EO via dipstick?
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Is it only dipstick? U know all the 42 points (tembak one number first because im not sure how many) of checking done by them?
Btw dipstick also some ppl dunno how to check, some dont even check. Wan depend on regular joes instead of trained techs?
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Who the F still do the 1K km inspection? What is this? !920s???
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 19 2022, 11:36 AM)
Yeah, better do that to avoid unnecessary dispute later.

But if car owner still adamant, and correctly dispute the claim, still got leeway at the end, abeit more hassle in the warranty claim.
Don't bullshit la on monitoring the service job.

At big service centers, there are customer's lounge and customers not allowed into the service bays.
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The Honda customer lounge got big piece of glass so you can see your car being service right, pay attention to that, dont play game on the phone all the time. If you ask to go in take a look they will let you (this was 10 years ago when i still own a Honda). This was after the case where the service center got into trouble, a few technician pakat to steal ori parts of new cars and ganti with second hand parts.
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They give free service, not give fast service.

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Sep 19 2022, 11:56 AM)
Lots of things supposedly need to be checked during first servicing - bolt tension aka no loose bolts, oil leaks, coolant leak, absorber leak. Some are easy for the average owners to check, some not so.

It's the same with any other newly purchased machines in a factory. Vendor will take readings, look see, and not necessarily just replacing lubricants.
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If the car was bought at a major car dealership with its own service center behind the car sales and showroom, there's no different in getting the inspection at the service center between before the new car was hand over to the owner or 4 weeks later.

If things can go loose or leaking in the 4 weeks....



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Haiya. Long queue mean high resale value.

Mau ke tak mau?
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wait until they push u other product aircon cleaner, etc
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QUOTE(6942nole @ Sep 18 2022, 07:58 PM)
hello!

1st engine oil change is crucial!
mostly it is mineral oil to let the engine run in properly for 1st 1k km.
do not skip.
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first 1000km only checkup la chibai...where got 1000km already change engine oil...if motorcycle yala they change for the first 1000km...
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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ Sep 19 2022, 12:15 PM)
yes, this is the standard experience for most if not all manufacturer service centers. this is why i stopped going to honda service center right after my 5 years warranty was up. the wait times are horrendous.
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Sometimes one would think the business in the service centers is more lucrative than the business of selling cars.

New car owners are captive clients.

QUOTE(calodin @ Sep 19 2022, 12:20 PM)
The Honda customer lounge got big piece of glass so you can see your car being service right, pay attention to that, dont play game on the phone all the time. If you ask to go in take a look they will let you (this was 10 years ago when i still own a Honda). This was after the case where the service center got into trouble, a few technician pakat to steal ori parts of new cars and ganti with second hand parts.
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Ok noted. I think i heard about this before... i don't think it's happened at honda.

QUOTE(cloud666 @ Sep 19 2022, 12:25 PM)
wait until they push u other product aircon cleaner, etc
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Lol hahaha 😂
There's a counter selling t-shirts, wallets, backpacks...

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Who the F still do the 1K km inspection? What is this? !920s???
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 19 2022, 01:12 PM)
Free hot drinks in the service lounge. smile.gif
Yeah i know, it's my thread and it feels impolite not replying.
Let's look at this another way.

1st, if it's a reliability matter and there's weakness in their quality inspections in passing the car out of the factory, then say so that it is mandatory to have another inspection after 1 month.

Don't hide the quality/reliability weakness and package it as a "free service" to entice the car owner to bring back the car for inspection.

And it is really mandatory, else it can void the 5 years warranty.

In other words, if house appliances industry do the same, like Panasonic asking the customer to send the new tv, fridge or rice cooker for inspection one month later, else the warranty on the appliance will be void, is it acceptable?
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already well known honda topkek CKD melaka mari quality.

how are they hiding when they are offering 1k km check? or would you prefer 10k full service straight and let customer identify the possible issues themselves within the 10k?

atleast it is a preventive measure by them which i will fully support

not gonna have x50 proton suddenly got problems and wait 10 years for sparepart swim across the ocean from china to here

very simple, as a consumer everyone have their rights of choice. its not like ishiyama point his revolver at customers and force them to buy honda.

dun like what they do, go matsuda, go nissan, go toyoda.. feel abit richer? go conti

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For those of you said it’s suuuuper important for the 1k engine oil change, then you have a bigger problem then you think.

That’s exactly the purpose of oil filter.
And if you really clog up your oil filter with metal shavings until it bleeds out to your EO, then your engine is a fucking lemon to shave out such a substantial amount of metal.

Kommon la, my brand new conti also explicitly mentioned no such thing as 1k engine oil change, the SA specifically mentioned this because too many budak baru up from some accord/camry thinking keep on pestering them.
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 19 2022, 12:12 PM)
Free hot drinks in the service lounge. smile.gif
Yeah i know, it's my thread and it feels impolite not replying.
Let's look at this another way.

1st, if it's a reliability matter and there's weakness in their quality inspections in passing the car out of the factory, then say so that it is mandatory to have another inspection after 1 month.

Don't hide the quality/reliability weakness and package it as a "free service" to entice the car owner to bring back the car for inspection.

And it is really mandatory, else it can void the 5 years warranty.

In other words, if house appliances industry do the same, like Panasonic asking the customer to send the new tv, fridge or rice cooker for inspection one month later, else the warranty on the appliance will be void, is it acceptable?
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Sounds pretty retarded here. Comparing something that has over thousands of components that can go wrong vs a standard household appliances

At least you got off without having to pay anything. in peroduas case, it's a chance for the sc to sell additional shit, I.e. oil filter magnet

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QUOTE(tatabun @ Sep 19 2022, 12:45 PM)
already well known honda topkek CKD melaka mari quality.

rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  lol 😂

how are they hiding when they are offering 1k km check? or would you prefer 10k full service straight and let customer identify the possible issues themselves within the 10k?

atleast it is a preventive measure by them which i will fully support

not gonna have x50 proton suddenly got problems and wait 10 years for sparepart swim across the ocean from china to here

very simple, as a consumer everyone have their rights of choice. its not like ishiyama point his revolver at customers and force them to buy honda.

dun like what they do, go matsuda, go nissan, go toyoda.. feel abit richer? go conti
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So... it's 2022 and perfectly fine to have 1000km or 1 month later, which ever is earlier, 1st service or the 5-years warranty is void.

Ok, noted.

(Preventive measures... hahaha 🤣)

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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 19 2022, 12:23 PM)
If the car was bought at a major car dealership with its own service center behind the car sales and showroom, there's no different in getting the inspection at the service center between before the new car was hand over to the owner or 4 weeks later.

If things can go loose or leaking in the 4 weeks....
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That's what you think, not the people who design and manufacture the cars.

Do you think Honda did a thorough test run of your new car before you collected it?
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QUOTE(TheOnly @ Sep 19 2022, 01:40 PM)
For those of you said it’s suuuuper important for the 1k engine oil change, then you have a bigger problem then you think.

That’s exactly the purpose of oil filter.
And if you really clog up your oil filter with metal shavings until it bleeds out to your EO, then your engine is a fucking lemon to shave out such a substantial amount of metal.

Kommon la, my brand new conti also explicitly mentioned no such thing as 1k engine oil change, the SA specifically mentioned this because too many budak baru up from some accord/camry thinking keep on pestering them.
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Some people are still stuck at old mentality thus they continue to accept mediocrity.
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QUOTE(axtray @ Sep 19 2022, 01:47 PM)
Sounds pretty retarded here. Comparing something that has over thousands of components that can go wrong vs a standard household appliances

At least you got off without having to pay anything. in peroduas case, it's a chance for the sc to sell additional shit, I.e. oil filter magnet
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Why not? Though husehold appliances are relatively cheaper, but it doesn't excuse car manufacturers from unreliable products.

So Honda is allowed to follow Perodua's standards? And you okay with the shenanigans of doing oil flush after 1000km and other so-call inspections when it is not necessary?


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The whole point of a free 1k inspection is for them to push additional product to you. Think about it, which business want to give away free time and labor. That is why they want you to keep coming back for the next 5 years.
At least Perodua did it that way.
During 1k inspection, they ask nicely if I want oil filter magnet.
For subsequent service, they just lump them in the service sheet and show me. Things like battery protector, sound insulation, injector cleaner, cabin cleaner, throttle cleaner and what not.
They will just promptly remove them if I just say don't want.
Imagine if 30% of the people just sign the form. Those are all high profit stuff.

For conti car, so far never have such issue with service center.
Never have a Honda, so no idea.

For warranty, you must read the fine prints on what is covered.
Perodua again, most of the things are covered for 3 years only.
Things that won't die like engine block are covered for 5 years.

For Conti car, they are the same, but if you use their insurance, they will cover everything for 5 years, minus consumable, wear and tear.
Again, read the fine prints.

DIY inspection is subjective. Most people don't even check water level. They do lift up your car and check undercarriage. To me it is personal preference.

Synthetic vs Mineral oil. I personally prefer less hassle and long service interval.
If you DIY the oil change I say go for it. Just Google how to reset the oil change indicator.

In my life of owning vehicle, all the things that dies are stuff that preventive maintenance won't help:
Water pump
Fan
Radiator
Bearing
Fuel pump
Power window
Rear defogger
Wiper mechanism

I have vehicle that I serviced myself, and I have vehicle that is wholly serviced by authorized center.

Makes no different in term of reliability. Of course this is just me. Your mileage may vary.

Car electronics in modern car
My experience is they don't die. When I get error codes, all of them are due to mechanical components. In the end it all comes down to diagnostic skills. Is authorized center better? Is outside workshop better?

Will they replace unbroken stuff?
Can you do it yourselves?
It is a free world. I say just exercise your rights.
Don't fall for FUD, don't let people gaslight you
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Obviously the first serving is like having user helping out honda to test drive the car for 1K to see if there is any other issue at the time, because honda can just simply hire ppl to drive every car for 1K mah....
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QUOTE(kwss @ Sep 19 2022, 02:07 PM)
The whole point of a free 1k inspection is for them to push additional product to you. Think about it, which business want to give away free time and labor. That is why they want you to keep coming back for the next 5 years.
At least Perodua did it that way.
During 1k inspection, they ask nicely if I want oil filter magnet.
For subsequent service, they just lump them in the service sheet and show me. Things like battery protector, sound insulation, injector cleaner, cabin cleaner, throttle cleaner and what not.
They will just promptly remove them if I just say don't want.
Imagine if 30% of the people just sign the form. Those are all high profit stuff.

For conti car, so far never have such issue with service center.
Never have a Honda, so no idea.

For warranty, you must read the fine prints on what is covered.
Perodua again, most of the things are covered for 3 years only.
Things that won't die like engine block are covered for 5 years.

For Conti car, they are the same, but if you use their insurance, they will cover everything for 5 years, minus consumable, wear and tear.
Again, read the fine prints.

DIY inspection is subjective. Most people don't even check water level. They do lift up your car and check undercarriage. To me it is personal preference.

Synthetic vs Mineral oil. I personally prefer less hassle and long service interval.
If you DIY the oil change I say go for it. Just Google how to reset the oil change indicator.

In my life of owning vehicle, all the things that dies are stuff that preventive maintenance won't help:
Water pump
Fan
Radiator
Bearing
Fuel pump
Power window
Rear defogger
Wiper mechanism

I have vehicle that I serviced myself, and I have vehicle that is wholly serviced by authorized center.

Makes no different in term of reliability. Of course this is just me. Your mileage may vary.

Car electronics in modern car
My experience is they don't die. When I get error codes, all of them are due to mechanical components. In the end it all comes down to diagnostic skills. Is authorized center better? Is outside workshop better?

Will they replace unbroken stuff?
Can you do it yourselves?
It is a free world. I say just exercise your rights.
Don't fall for FUD, don't let people gaslight you
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Sep 19 2022, 01:49 PM)
That's what you think, not the people who design and manufacture the cars. 

Do you think Honda did a thorough test run of your new car before you collected it?
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No test runs at the 1st service either. You're doing the 'test runs' on the road. smile.gif

And if low mileage, just a few hundreds km in the 1st month (for some reasons or another), the 1st service schedule must be followed, or the warranty void.


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I asked them to change the oil and oil filter...lol
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QUOTE(TheOnly @ Sep 19 2022, 01:40 PM)
For those of you said it’s suuuuper important for the 1k engine oil change, then you have a bigger problem then you think.

That’s exactly the purpose of oil filter.
And if you really clog up your oil filter with metal shavings until it bleeds out to your EO, then your engine is a fucking lemon to shave out such a substantial amount of metal.

Kommon la, my brand new conti also explicitly mentioned no such thing as 1k engine oil change, the SA specifically mentioned this because too many budak baru up from some accord/camry thinking keep on pestering them.
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QUOTE(a_dot_el @ Sep 19 2022, 01:52 PM)
Some people are still stuck at old mentality thus they continue to accept mediocrity.
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Hear, hear.

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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 19 2022, 01:48 PM)
So... it's 2022 and perfectly fine to have 1000km or 1 month later, which ever is earlier, 1st service or the 5-years warranty is void.

Ok, noted.

(Preventive measures... hahaha 🤣)
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preventive measures from getting a, yep, fuckin' lemon
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 19 2022, 02:14 PM)
No test runs at the 1st service either. You're doing the 'test runs' on the road. smile.gif

And if low mileage, just a few hundreds km in the 1st month (for some reasons or another), the 1st service schedule must be followed, or the warranty void.
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They want you to go for 1000km inspection after your real world test run lo.
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QUOTE(meghamtaro @ Sep 18 2022, 07:54 PM)
Lol. Even for those who booked early morning appointments still needs to wait 3 hours for a normal service.
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lucky my Proton SC faster.

appointment 8am,
reach 7.55am
8am finish register, car already inside.

2 hour later (10AM) all done.

change engine oil, filter
clean the aircon
oil the door and all part.



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QUOTE(bootmod3 @ Sep 19 2022, 02:21 PM)
First time buy car? When next time engine spoil/blow, don't cry mother father okay?
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I think i could be buying cars before you're born or old enough to drive.

Read the previous posts. Things like engine break-in are your grandfather's old story.


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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 07:52 PM)
Sent a car for its 1st service, these the details...

- car came with free labor for the 1st service

- 1st service either reached 1000 km or 1 month, whichever earlier

- failing to follow maintenance schedule would void the warranty on the car

- 1st service entails only checking engine oil, washer fluid, tyre pressure, etc.

- no oil change involved as engines nowadays only change engine oil after 10,000 km and oil filter after 20,000 km

- have made a prior appointment before hand.

- still need to wait after taking a queue ticket before being called to the counter to inform them why you are there and hand them the car key.

- after that, wait about another 30 minutes before you noticed the car driven inside into the service bays.

- overall, waited about 1 hour plus just for the service guy to complete the inspection. (There's no engine oil or oil filter replacement.)

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Hello Honda,

Give free service for what?
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do u even know why first service is important??
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 18 2022, 08:06 PM)
1st 1000km no oil change... that's the gist of post why the 1st sevice is just a waste of time.

Only char chiew youngsters wouldn't know how to top washer fluid or check tyre pressure.

Also the battery is maintenance free type nowadays, no need to check and add battery water.
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I guess since it is 1st inspection where only involved visual inspection only, SC will just accept appointment at whatever time the customer request without considering those on scheduled maintenance. This left the SC shorthanded ... poor management.
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 19 2022, 02:28 PM)
I think i could be buying cars before you're born or old enough to drive.

Read the previous posts. Things like engine break-in are your grandfather's old story.
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An engine is an engine. No matter how modern the car might be, they still need to check to make sure everything is okay. Hence which is why the first service is so important. If everything goes well, usually they just topup a small amount which they took out to check for metal shavings.

So called buy car so long already...keep it up boomer...
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QUOTE(karazure @ Sep 19 2022, 02:29 PM)
do u even know why first service is important??
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This is because manufacturer does not believe 100% the final QA check at the factory laugh.gif
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 18 2022, 09:48 PM)
lol see the opinion if others against you, apparently they think you sre the rude one
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Pretty obvious really. Topic title already terserlah the rudeness.


Karen of car owner variety.




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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 19 2022, 03:36 PM)
This is because manufacturer does not believe 100% the final QA check at the factory  laugh.gif
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My guess is...80% of the problem might happen within the first 1000km of driving (habits) of new owners. All the QA check cannot compensate for possibility of stupid users. So just to be safe.... enforce the first 1000km is logical.

If skipped it.. by the time the 5000k or 10000km milestone reached ... certain owners might have destroyed his engine/gearbox totally.

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This is because manufacturer does not believe 100% the final QA check at the factory  laugh.gif
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tell unker which manufacturer have 100% issue free record?

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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Sep 19 2022, 02:27 PM)
lucky my Proton SC faster.

appointment 8am,
reach 7.55am
8am finish register, car already inside.

2 hour later (10AM) all done.

change engine oil, filter
clean the aircon
oil the door and all part.
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True. Before when I was using a Proton, the service time is much more faster. Normal service more or less 1 hour.

Major almost 2 hours.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Sep 19 2022, 02:21 PM)
They want you to go for 1000km inspection after your real world test run lo.
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Better read the fine print... it is either 1000km or 1 month after collecting the car, whichever is earlier.

If mileage low like less than 2-3 hundred km, the schedule must be followed. Else there could be disputes that the warranty have been void when you detected any problems later.




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QUOTE(karazure @ Sep 19 2022, 02:44 PM)
tell unker which manufacturer have 100% issue free record?
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Haiya ... unker also troll here and there from time to time.... realx la. wink.gif

On serious side, it is a good idea to have QC from other party not in manufacturing house.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 19 2022, 02:36 PM)
This is because manufacturer does not believe 100% the final QA check at the factory  laugh.gif
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All the inspection, quality passed stickers are for wayang only. Lol 😂


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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 19 2022, 02:59 PM)
Haiya ... unker also troll here and there from time to time.... realx la.  wink.gif

On serious side, it is a good idea to have QC from other party not in manufacturing house.
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Seriously, there's such thing as mandatory recalls.

Nobody hear it before?

If there's any major defect in a batch of components, the manufacturer have to recall all the cars involved in that batch for inspection and/or replacement.


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QUOTE(karazure @ Sep 19 2022, 02:29 PM)
do u even know why first service is important??
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Hahaha 🤣

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Simple.

Do u need the warranty? If so, follow la!

If don't need the warranty (like most workshop owners), then no need to follow.
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 19 2022, 03:07 PM)
Seriously, there's such thing as mandatory recalls.

Nobody hear it before?

If there's any major defect in a batch of components, the manufacturer have to recall all the cars involved in that batch for inspection and/or replacement.
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Recall is different thing. Sometimes parts from supplier have high possible failure to material defect in manufacturing. This 1k inspection is more on assembly quality rather than defective parts.
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Give free service pun tembak
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apa lagi u orang mau
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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 19 2022, 02:35 PM)
I guess since it is 1st inspection where only involved visual inspection only, SC will just  accept appointment at whatever time the customer request without considering those on scheduled maintenance. This left the SC shorthanded ... poor management.
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Maybe.

But everything nowadays is computerized... not able to keying the appointment booking if there's no more slots available. Either this, or give more training to the personnel in scheduling bookings.

This seems to be the norm at any big service centers in klang valley, 2-3 hours of waiting time for any normal car service. Even though all cars have booked appointments.

Maybe faster at a smaller service center, such as in Termeloh.

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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 19 2022, 02:59 PM)
Haiya ... unker also troll here and there from time to time.... realx la.  wink.gif

On serious side, it is a good idea to have QC from other party not in manufacturing house.
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we call that user. sweat.gif no worry, unker also can see TS bodo.
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 19 2022, 03:08 PM)
Hahaha 🤣
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 19 2022, 03:01 PM)
All the inspection, quality passed stickers are for wayang only. Lol 😂
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lol
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QUOTE(acbc @ Sep 19 2022, 03:09 PM)
Simple.

Do u need the warranty? If so, follow la!

If don't need the warranty (like most workshop owners), then no need to follow.
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Yeah, no other option for normal motorists... have to follow like sheeps.


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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 19 2022, 03:21 PM)
Maybe.

But everything nowadays is computerized... not able to keying the appointment booking if there's no more slots available. Either this, or give more training to the personnel in scheduling bookings.

This seems to be the norm at any big service centers in klang valley, 2-3 hours of waiting time for any normal car service. Even though all cars have booked appointments.

Maybe faster at a smaller service center, such as in Termeloh.
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Appointment for normal regular service but then problem discovered. So, time got derailed too.
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QUOTE(kevinc @ Sep 19 2022, 03:23 PM)
so your electric fan sirim sticker also for wayang lah
lol
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And yet it's 'retard' to compare them. hahaha lol.


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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 19 2022, 03:24 PM)
Appointment for normal regular service but then problem discovered. So, time got derailed too.
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If another problem discovered, the car will stay there overnight. smile.gif


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Yeah, no other option for normal motorists... have to follow like sheeps.
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I have many workshop friends who bought brand new cars and straightaway drive up to Genting Highlands to try to break everything. Within the first 1000km, they broke a few or many components but all were covered under warranty. After that, don't bother to claim anymore because they can get it done cheaper in their own companies.

I followed these people some years back with my brand new car and broke the alternator, ABS sensors, and aircon compressor because kept the revs above 5500-6000 RPMs constant for some parts of GH. When back down, I claimed everything as per the diagnosis. Seriously worth it.
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Yes. that's their way to skimming you one free service LOL. actually the checking is necessary, because your car is fresh out from factory. of course factory has their standard QC jugak.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Sep 19 2022, 03:40 PM)
I have many workshop friends who bought brand new cars and straightaway drive up to Genting Highlands to try to break everything. Within the first 1000km, they broke a few or many components but all were covered under warranty. After that, don't bother to claim anymore because they can get it done cheaper in their own companies.

I followed these people some years back with my brand new car and broke the alternator, ABS sensors, and aircon compressor because kept the revs above 5500-6000 RPMs constant for some parts of GH. When back down, I claimed everything as per the diagnosis. Seriously worth it.
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Lol, that's really breaking in the new car!


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Lol, that's really breaking in the new car!
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That should be the way to maximize the warranty claims. If always parked at home or hardly driven, it will be wasted. Likewise, after 3 years, I got all brand new parts compared to those to keep the car at home and only changed unimportant parts. One of the friends even got a brand new gearbox.
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QUOTE(billy08 @ Sep 19 2022, 04:05 PM)
Yes. that's their way to skimming you one free service LOL. actually the checking is necessary, because your car is fresh out from factory. of course factory has their standard QC jugak.
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Ya loh... it's bundle together as 5 free services. The 1st service is like no service. If no trust factory qc, it could be done before the car was released, when they daftar jpj road tax and fixing the window tints.

Somemore, it's low mileage... no different if they did the 'inspections' day 1 or 1 month later.

As if the car can breakdown anytime and be stranded at road side, how confident to drive it out of town?



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QUOTE(acbc @ Sep 19 2022, 04:12 PM)
That should be the way to maximize the warranty claims. If always parked at home or hardly driven, it will be wasted. Likewise, after 3 years, I got all brand new parts compared to those to keep the car at home and only changed unimportant parts. One of the friends even got a brand new gearbox.
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 19 2022, 02:58 PM)
Better read the fine print... it is either 1000km or 1 month after collecting the car, whichever is earlier.

If mileage low like less than 2-3 hundred km, the schedule must be followed. Else there could be disputes that the warranty have been void when you detected any problems later.
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You don't have to tell me about either mileage or interval. My City is 4 years old, 30k km odometer. I have changed CVT fluid 2x (every 40k or 24 months), changed fuel strainer once (80k or 48 months), changed this and that.

My point is you need to have the car inspected after initial use as required by the manufacturer.

Your sales advisor didn't mention this to you before you signed the booking form?

If you think you know more about the manufacturer, I rest my case.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Sep 19 2022, 04:53 PM)
You don't have to tell me about either mileage or interval. My City is 4 years old, 30k km odometer. I have changed CVT fluid 2x (every 40k or 24 months), changed fuel strainer once (80k or 48 months), changed this and that.

My point is you need to have the car inspected after initial use as required by the manufacturer.

Your sales advisor didn't mention this to you before you signed the booking form?

If you think you know more about the manufacturer, I rest my case.
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And it never occurs to you to wonder whether it is absolutely necessary to follow the schedule when there's low mileage.

Good for you.

Don't make excuses on behalf of honda just because you driving a honda. Other car brands the same too... don't have to be emotional because i so happened to use honda in my posts.



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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Sep 19 2022, 05:38 PM)
And it never occurs to you to wonder whether it is absolutely necessary to follow the schedule when there's low mileage.

Good for you.

Don't make excuses on behalf of honda just because you driving a honda. Other car brands the same too... don't have to be emotional because i so happened to use honda in my posts.
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Nothing is absolutely necessary for your car. I've seem report / photo / videos of car not changing oil for many years. Service interval in time and mileage is an advise from the manufacturing company. If you don't care about warranty (if any), you can ignore as you wish.

Just like doctor can advise to stop smoking, but you can also ignore. My ah ma live relatively healthy as a smoker till 80+, my father live relatively unhealthy as a smoker till 60+. You car may or may not live long, just don't regret when you kena repair bills lo.

Oh ya, many parts do age with time, regardless of the mileage. Rubber, belt, oil, etc. Even tyre have expiry date.

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QUOTE(hungrygodzilla @ Sep 19 2022, 05:49 PM)
Nothing is absolutely necessary for your car. I've seem report / photo / videos of car not changing oil for many years. Service interval in time and mileage is an advise from the manufacturing company. If you don't care about warranty (if any), you can ignore as you wish.

Just like doctor can advise to stop smoking, but you can also ignore. My ah ma live relatively healthy as a smoker till 80+, my father live relatively unhealthy as a smoker till 60+. You car may or may not live long, just don't regret when you kena repair bills lo.

Oh ya, many parts do age with time, regardless of the mileage. Rubber, belt, oil, etc. Even tyre have expiry date.
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Right, concurs with you. Some parts especially rubber parts will age over time, regardless of mileage.

Main point of the thread, 1st service inspection absolutely necessary? If don't strictly follow, the warranty can be void.

That's my point of discussion.

I'm closing this thread for further replies. Got other matters to attend to... won't be able to reply all.




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