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post Jan 6 2023, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Jan 5 2023, 02:26 PM)
Haha, sorry my bad. Cause the last time I bought mechanical keyboard is corsair K series cherry mx red. So my knowledge is like until red, blue, brown. Sorry if I offend you.

For me I also will not use the knob as well. I can do some researches my end. It just that I have to research from K1 till K14 and then C1, etc. So if there is good recommendation for your expertise, I would very welcome. If not, then I will just continue to slowly research all these keyboards or asking via other portal. Thanks!
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You should at least figure out what layout you want. Gateron reds are linear switches.

One thing that gets overlooked is how the usb wire is plugged in. Some keyboards have the usb socket at the sides or in front which can be accidentally knocked loose which I don't like, I prefer the socket underneath.
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post Jan 6 2023, 12:25 PM

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I think lately theres some concern over Keychron's quality control and some people are not happy about problems cropping up and how Keychron is dealing with it.
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post Jul 6 2023, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Jul 5 2023, 11:19 AM)
Do you have a video that I can refer to for the lubing?
I will check out videos on how to switch the switches. Good thinking, i dont have to swap all switches at one go. Can do them batch by batch.  biggrin.gif
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I would've advised you to get a cheap Leaven keyboard or a techware as a beginner who doesn't want to spend alot. The Leaven is all plastic and lightweight and really cheap which is suitable for carrying around or leaving it at the office without worrying too much about it being stolen. Some Leaven models may not have hot swappable sockets so you'll have to confirm it with the buyer. Another option is scissor switched keyboards like the Cougar vantar or cherry stream.

Try lubing a small batch like 10 switches first. It can be annoying to get it right, too light and it feels like you haven't done anything, too much lube and it feels heavy/stuck. I wouldn't bother if you're not an enthusiast who is obsessed about getting the right feel at this stage. Get a batch of outemu silent white switches instead of o-rings, they are cheap about 1.25 or 1.5 per switch and they are very very quiet, probably the most quiet for common keyboard silent switches, sounds as quiet or quieter than ordinary membranes depending on how rattly your stabilizer keys are.

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post Jul 6 2023, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jul 5 2023, 10:52 AM)
yes, o-rings is the cheapest. the rest depend on choices in terms of costs. i assumed you want a quiet board. in that case, silent switches will contribute the most, but it also brings mushiness. if you want, you can get 30 units and populate alphas area to start with.

to lube switches, you need tools, time, and patience. the tools are common these days: switch puller, mx style switch opener, brush, and lube. since this is the first time you do this, try apply a thin and even layer of lube on rails of bottom housing, all sides of stems, and spring first. (this technique is ok for linear switches)

tbh, just explore slowly.
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I don't like o-rings because they don't do anything about the switch noise on the upstroke and they might cause keycaps to break more easily.

Do you know where I can get cherry mx silent reds for a decent price? They are around RM3 per switch on LZ/Shoppe. Outemus silent whites feel/sound great but I'm still have reliability issues with them, not sure if its because of the env that my keyboards are in which may cause contacts to tarnish more easily. Other brands also have trouble but possibly last longer while the original cherrys never seem to have a problem because of their gold crossbar design possibly.
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post Jul 7 2023, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jul 6 2023, 02:00 PM)
o-rings is an option when everything else is not. yes, it helps to reduce noise partially. however, can you give us more insights on how o-rings increasing risks for keycaps to break?

afaik, 3-pin cherry mx silent red is around 2myr per switch at taobao, without shipping. the total costs might be around 3 to reach your door steps.

yes, surroundings affect key switches, and cherry mx key switches are known to be more reliable than others. in your case, you should try 5-pin kailh fried egg, with water- and dust-proof designs. internally, its leafs are covered with a small cap.
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The o-rings sit at the base of the 'stem holder' which reduces the flex and place more pressure nearer to the mouth of the 'stem holder'. It may not be a problem for keycaps which have thicker/high quality 'stem holders'. My own abs keycap set which don't use o-rings have a few split stem holders, can still use but they are looser. The logitech G710 series I think which had o-rings as a standard had problems with broken keycaps.

I haven't used Taobao for a long time because it requires a account and everything is in mandarin. I'm quite sure the issue with outemu is because of the switch contacts and by repeatedly tapping away for some time I can fix the issue but I'd prefer not to deal with it in the first place.
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post Jul 28 2023, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(smokey @ Jul 27 2023, 09:50 AM)
yup u are correct

anyone patroned his shop d?
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He's selling on shopee/lazada - mechhaus. I remembered how some regular posters here got hot under the collar because his cheap keyboards were better than the corsair(or was it CM) models which they were also selling which had a defective design which required some soldering to fix.

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post Jul 28 2023, 08:52 PM

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Any recommendations for a bang/buck budget backlit PBT keycap set (87)... Was looking at the Tecware pbt keycaps, the non-pudding one and was wondering if theres anything better at that price point or close to it.
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post Jul 29 2023, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(miong93 @ Jul 29 2023, 01:24 PM)
Hi all sifus,

I'm totally new to custom mkb, any recommendation for a TKL or full size keyboard with budget of RM500 max?

I got a few preference, not sure its do-able or not:
- Hot-swappable, as I will try out new switch & keycap in future
- Decent board, as above reason, will only change board if it spoiled
- I type a lot in dark, so prefer to have backlit with shine through keycaps on legend (but not bleed a lot like image below). Too bad I'm not touch type kind of guy  sad.gif
- I prefer to have PBT keycaps, as I like the feel better, but is okay to have ABS, just need to rajin to change them once they "shine"  tongue.gif
- I'm okay with both north / south facing, if south facing I can go with side facing keycaps with shine through also

If got fully assembled one I'm fine also, but I need some recommendation (especially on what brand is decent for what part etc etc), as I'm quite new to this, so want to get some reliable parts.
I try not to go for those gaming series as I don't need most of those fancy feature, i prefer a plain keyboard layout. And I also assume those gaming keyboard can't really provide much flexibility for changing switch/keycaps etc (do correct me if I'm wrong).
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Theres lots of choice nowadays. The Tecware Spectre Pro is compatible with all common cherry mx style switches whereas the cheaper Tecware Phantom is only compatible with outemu and akko switches. No need to spend alot if you just want to try out a mkb.
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post Aug 4 2023, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Jul 29 2023, 11:02 PM)
Hi guys, i wanna change my switches to the silent ones, any recommendations ah? Otemu or WS?
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Get both, at least get a few of both. The outemus are cheap less than RM1 in lazada/shoppe. I never a failed outemu new out of the box and but problems might come up after some time.
I got cherry mx silents from aliexpress for about RM2.1 each after shipping.
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post Aug 4 2023, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Aug 4 2023, 09:03 AM)
Tecware Phantom + and Phantom + Elite are relatively new. Released last December. They have gotten rave reviews, and from my short test in a Thundermatch, it feels and sounds good! I may be getting one myself if there's a deal on 8.8. I need more boards to put my keycaps on. Haha.
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The phantom+ model stabilizers are better than the original Tecware phantom which rattled out of the box without modding.
A better deal is the RK R87 which is RM126 after the RM50 coupon deduction, its compatible with all cherry mx clones unlike the phantom+ which is only compatible with outemu type switches. I think theres less foam layers compared to the phantom+ but theres at least 1 layer of eva btween the plate and pcb which makes it sound decent out of the box considering its price and the stabs don't rattle.
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post Aug 4 2023, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Aug 4 2023, 12:00 PM)
The Phantom + now uses Kailh hotswap sockets so there's no longer any switch compatibility issues. In any case, I'm a Gazzew fanboy so it was never a problem for me.

When I was new to MKB a few years ago, Royal Kludge had plenty of bad reviews. I honestly have never owned one, but I have heard they have gotten a lot better these past few years, so I may consider it. Since it's not going to be a daily driver anyway.
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From their website only the Phantom+ Elite uses universal 5pin hotswap sockets, the Phantom+ non-elite uses 3pin 'tecware' switch sockets which is outemu style sockets.
https://www.tecware.co/phantomplus

 

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