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Sep 14 2022, 07:12 PM, updated 2y ago
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Sep 15 2022, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(viole @ Sep 14 2022, 07:49 PM) Let us know your personality/behaviour first. Oh not literally a weirdo, some where along the line of this guy always work alone, this guy cannot speak clearly etc etc and you eventually build up a reputation of being the odd one then attract bullies, contractor environment is more like school so tend to inspire bulliesIt cant be only quiet as you have mentioned that you were labelled as weirdo. |
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Sep 15 2022, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(kesvani @ Sep 14 2022, 10:58 PM) I also like you but SPM kids only. Middle age. People might think i am weirdo because i think and speak like ruler and bad at social skill so can be perceive as quite. Since i have no degree so have to go construction route. Salary kinda good tho at 3000++ include allowances after deduction. I personally prefer It tech or technical job but because i have more construction experiences so boss kinda make me to deal with site customer although my title is supervisor only. Stress AFK. That’s what I’m doing at the tech (technology) job, it is pretty manageable, pretty much the same you been doing in schools, don’t know then google then execute and repeatI think the best job for you that require no interaction. Maybe software engineer. Need to find whats wrong, run a debugging software. Need solution, just have virtual chat at stack overflow forum Other jobs I had people are intolerant of any sign incompetence shown during meetings etc, not sure whether is because tech job has more young people compared to construction Despite all the negative opinions against younger generation, I find younger people easier to work with, speaking as a person who changed countless jobs |
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Sep 20 2022, 09:24 PM
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Sep 20 2022, 09:27 PM
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Sep 21 2022, 11:30 AM
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Sep 21 2022, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(anakkk @ Sep 21 2022, 08:56 AM) drug alone will not solve most of the mental health issue, The drugs makes me feel slightly better in terms of mood and being ease, but my autistic behavior hasn't changedyou may need to go for CBT, mindfulness classes like meditation, self affirmation classes, inner child classes and so on I heard CBT is useful, but the doctor every time repeat the same questions like how you feel, any side effects, then continue drugs, change amount occassionally psychiatrist thinks is depression, not autistic spectrum, i been on drugs for months, still autistic |
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Sep 22 2022, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(earshore @ Sep 21 2022, 11:33 PM) Well the ones i got fired from, i haven't done much, replied client emails, did some energy studies for senior, reproduced some drawings, and filing housekeeping, boss said people don't want to work with me and my performance is lowThe one i resigned from, i only changed some drawings, convert drawings to pdf, a few days later i overheard boss no assign job to me cuz i look like idiot |
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Sep 22 2022, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(BonBonvoyage @ Sep 21 2022, 01:01 PM) I've been there, maybe not bad as you Anger and frustration? Why? The tantrum-prone behaviour you saw in some people is those on extremity of autistic spectrum, or Asperger or Down syndrome, I’m not thoseyou need to let out your repressed emotions i bet you have a lot of anger and frustrations, consider going to the gym i became a new person after i regular gym and don't worry about what other people think, they don't, its not in their best interest to think about you I don’t care about what other people think, others caring too much about me is precisely the reason of my struggle, for example I didn’t think staying quiet during lunch time is a huge deal, apparently it bothers people who do care. And people don’t want to work with me because they care something about me |
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Sep 26 2022, 11:59 PM
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Sep 27 2022, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Sep 26 2022, 03:23 AM) Stay in tech. As long as you don't move up the ladder too much, you can work on your own and solve problems without much human interaction. Once you start moving up, you'll require more human interaction and people skills. Junior engineer cannot? I don’t just behave like autistic, something wrong with my appearance which is why some of them said I look like idiot, traditional workplace tend to be mean and judgemental Staying tech got issues too actually, like salary not sure how long they will keep giving internship pay grade My life so damn struggling, meaningless like oku but no oku compassion |
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Sep 27 2022, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(ragk @ Sep 27 2022, 10:24 AM) My last drawn none-senior software engineer salary are 6.6k, or 7k, i cant recall, and it can be higher depend on company. I don’t have computing degree, I’m not sure whether I will have the same career pathCan u discuss technical issue and requirement normally? If can that's no issue to hit the said salary if u have the correct technical skill Met few programmer which are really quiet during work, and don't really speak, but as long as u are responsible to your task and complete it on time, thn everything is fine. And of cause, if u are in the right place, toxic person could be anywhere I can’t really speak well, it affects discussion as well. It really depends on whether the other persons are intolerant of any sign of anomalies, when I have older colleagues they tend to see it as them being heavily affected by having to work with me therefore forming strong opinions about me, sometimes appearance alone can put them off |
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Sep 27 2022, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Sep 27 2022, 01:20 AM) I think most junior tech roles don't require that much human interaction. I'm not sure if autistic gets you an OKU card, but you can probably try contacting the relevant ministry. Local doctors assessment of autism is binary, they don’t seem to acknowledge autistic spectrum contagiouseddie liked this post
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Sep 29 2022, 09:56 PM
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Sep 29 2022, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(earshore @ Sep 29 2022, 09:10 PM) no lah, SPA refers to Public Services Commission of Malaysia (Malay: Suruhanjaya Perkhidmatan Awam Malaysia), abbreviated SPA or PSC sorry i didn't google, i thought you were saying some sort of licensego here you suggested that because you thought gov has some social responsibility to hire oku? i am not diagnosed as fully autistic, but in the US they have a spectrum, you can be somewhere between the autistic spectrum and be considered disabled Gamuda has a scheme called enabling academy where they hire autistic people as professional like quantity surveyor, i tried but they say need official diagnosis |
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Sep 30 2022, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(RocketLauncher @ Sep 30 2022, 10:03 AM) I think the best choice for you is still in tech. unless you really hate it. dont worry about future salary as you dont have much choice now anyway. engineering seems like a dead end either now or sooner. I find tech more boring than doing engineering design but i wouldn't say i hate it. I still have choices to go back to engineering if i want to try again, perhaps with a strategy to make myself acceptable to my colleagues. I do have similar opinion of engineering being a dead end which is why i tried tech in the first placeas for tech, most dont care if you have a degree or not, as long as you have the technical capabilities. but you must tempered you expectation. if you condition dont improve and you dont make improvement yourself, sooner or later you gonna hit a wall. like others said, if you moving up the ladder, definitely there will be more interaction needed. even if you dont move to leadership role, just being a senior, you are suppose to be able to guide others technically. meanwhile, try to think what you can do as a side hustle that dont need interaction. all i can think of is to write in medium.com/, where you can write articles, stories and your thoughts like a blog and earn from there. I know a forummer here that is earning quite a bit writing there. best thing is, you can hide behind it. I went into tech having extremely limited computing skill, engineering course taught some programming, i did some self learning myself, i still rely heavily on google at work. It is highly unlikely that the condition can improve, in my late 20s i have accepted the explanation of autism or personality disorder as the cause of my struggle, i feel liek it's inside the biochemistry. I have little interest in leadership, i just wish to be expert in something and make a lot of money off it. I do create content, so far haven't been able to make money from it. It's a good idea to find a sustainable income. |
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Sep 30 2022, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(Takudan @ Sep 30 2022, 12:23 AM) I have an ex colleague who worked for 5 years in my company, she was diagnosed with Asperger's late too (not sure what age exactly, I'm gonna guess +/-20yo). Well i guess the IT field has higher tolerance for personality anomalies. I think it has to do with the age group of workers in this field, colleagues in 30s above tend to be more judgemental and gossip more.Unfortunately I was also socially awkward in the years she was around, so I don't know her well. But as an observer, I think she was... "accepted"? After all she stayed with the company for 5 years ish. Idk why she resigned though. We're IT company, where our "developer" role is a bit different from others. We're kind of a consultant role but not customer facing. The consultancy part is mainly internal, where we provide our inputs/suggestions usually in more technical aspects. It still involves dealing with people and you do need to talk almost on a daily basis (discussions, Q&A etc), but I think people here generally don't care* if you go lunch alone or stay silent in a group conversation. * Some people might ask out of curiosity but they don't mean much. Personally I think it might help to be upfront about your condition, to explain what it is and then tell people how you'd like people to treat/adjust to you. I personally have strabismus (misaligned eyes) and I inform people if I notice they're struggling with my eye contact, it's been a positive effect for me so far. Not sure what kind of effect it'd bring for different conditions but I'd think that it's good for me to know so I can be more considerate about your situation. Some companies separate business team and tech team, business team being more client-facing with some technical soundness, tech team being technically-focused. Consulting sounds nice, I find consulting in engineering interesting because of the engineering design part, in tech it doesn't really matter for me, i would prefer to avoid it if it means more people-dealing. When i wasn't in tech people seem to have strong opinion of everything, how you walk sit speak, how much you speak, it is generally believed that they correlate with how well you perform, also affect how willing people want to work with you. I don't think i will get hired if i was upfront about my condition, interviewers explicitly asked about how social i am, i usually replied 'okay' or something vague enough to avoid promising anything. If i were too take advantage of social responsibility aka sympathy, well i don't have official diagnosis of autism, doctors here don't recognize autistic spectrum. |
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Oct 2 2022, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(Zoom777 @ Sep 30 2022, 07:07 PM) Maybe you're just social withdrawal not autism? If austism, anti-psychotic like Risperidone can treat it. it treats aggression aspects of autism, i don't really have any aggressionI can relate your behaviour, maybe you're more like nerd, like to work with thing and idea, instead of people. |
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Oct 3 2022, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(justapawn @ Oct 3 2022, 11:34 AM) Hi TS, I can totally understand your situation as I am in the same field, got an engineering degree as well and have been struggling for many years. It is not smooth sailing for a normal introvert like me, let alone an autistic guy. Based on what you have said, I think hands-on tech job is suitable for you. I reckon you can "climb up" or develop yourself from this position, aiming to be a senior technician. All the best. I see, but I meant Tech as in technology, not technician |
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Oct 4 2022, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(mezanny @ Oct 4 2022, 09:37 AM) Question, did you disclose about your autism in your application ? I did not disclose, i don't have official diagnosis, i am not obligated to disclose anythingYeah I think its a rock and a hard case, I understand your situation. Employers/HR are idiots, they don't really have equal opportunity. Once they hear this, they will straight away nullify. I think you better stay at your current position. Since you already admitted you're not good with socializing. HRs are doing their job right for rejecting autistic ppl if the workplace isn't prepared to accommodate one QUOTE(mezanny @ Oct 4 2022, 09:37 AM) Maybe you have a chat with your boss on this ? But it could be that he is forced to do so, because he needs to reorganize his team, perhaps ? forced to do what? |
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