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smallgiant
post Oct 13 2023, 12:40 PM

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Sorry for resurrecting old thread. My mom had to to be warded, called the insurance agent to see if it would be covered, agent told her, policy no longer active due to lapse of payment. Called the bank, mcis apparently stopped the payment, I called mcis they said it was because the premium could not cover the insurance charge.

Looking @ the policy, the insurance charge will apparently be higher after 57, my mom signed up @ 53, she prob wouldn't have signed up if she knew she'd have to pay significantly more after just 4 years. The agent prob didn't tell her everything.

Anything I can do here? Can complain with bnm? This is utter bull, 20k+ in premium and nada, still has to queu up at govt hospital, while scammers gets 20%.

smallgiant
post Oct 13 2023, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Oct 13 2023, 12:56 PM)
your mom should receive a sms noticing her cash value from insurance are not able to cover before insurance kaput
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Just deduction SMS, faking agent didn't mention a thing.
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post Oct 13 2023, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Oct 13 2023, 01:23 PM)
The agent is scammer, product is never a scam. lol

That's why agent like to target uncle aunty.
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Regular insrance is fine, this investment link crap, prob bullshit. And yes, the agent is probably grade a cunt, my mom bought 5 or 6 policies, lol, looks like all are worth shit now.

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post Oct 13 2023, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 13 2023, 02:11 PM)
You need to understand that 4 hings
1. All ILP will not have enough cash balance to cover your policy after xyz years that is why you need to manually perform a large chunk topup to keep it sustainable. Cause majority of ILP cannot beat EPF return.
2. All ILP cash balance will be negative at end of insurance life.
3. All medical insurance premium will increase regardless if it is ILP or standalone. ILP will just minus out the investment portion toale up for it until it reaches zero then lapse. All medical insurance premoum increases with age. Cannot run away fo it. Embrace it.
4. For medical insurance, agent continue to receive premium for at lesat 6 years. First 2 years 40% will be as commission goes to insurance company and agent. The rest goes into your investment fund and your premium.

You can complain of OFS and see can get any settlement. Likely not.
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So like some people say here it's a total scam. Im waiting for full account statement from them, see how it goes.

So, 14 years is over xyz?
smallgiant
post Oct 13 2023, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Oct 13 2023, 02:38 PM)

So now I'm just stuck with the fund I was automatically assigned.

At the time I sign up, I don't know about the funds.. why couldn't the agent explained to me the different funds available, which one I would want.
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Better cancel and claim whatever remaining before they screw you and leave you with nothing.
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post Oct 13 2023, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 13 2023, 02:52 PM)
Is not a scam. It's just maybe agent never tell you the full story.
1. Did the agent tell you don't expect any money left from the ILP?
2. Did the agent tell you that need to topup eventually cause premium > ILP returns/cash value?
3. Did your agent tell you that majority of ILP cannot beat EPF?
1 & 2 all good and honest agent will tell you. Mine did. No 3 no one will tell you. I went with standalone over ILP cause i am not overpaying for stuff that I don't need and not helpful.

Actually mcis should send you a SMS/email/letter telling you to topup if ILP not enough money to sustain the insurance. Failing to topup = insurance lapse. Not sure if your mother received those notification. What is done is done.
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The agent might have promised her the moon and the stars and all the tea in China, she did buy like 5 or 6 policies after all, for me my bros, my sis.
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post Oct 13 2023, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 13 2023, 03:02 PM)
Then it's time for you to do homework and see if it is still active. If it's active, see if you want it. Is the protection enough? If no, surrender the insurance and get a new one.

You should always review your insurance at least once every 5-6 years.

Also if you are getting new insurance, think, do you want to pay for ILP or standalone? Standalone is pure insurance only. Nothing else. All agent will push for ILP cause it's more pricey so they get more commission.

Never stick to one company. Shop around for best value for money.
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Mine and my sister's lapse already, we're not old, so insurance charge should not have gone up. The other two, my younger brothers' still active, though the older one is just 2 years younger than me. So I have no idea wtf is going on.

 

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