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> [wtcomplaint] a guy named Lin Sang Heng, please aware of him

maxking85
post Oct 3 2007, 05:19 PM, updated 19y ago

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3 days ago he add my msn as he saw my topic regarding i want to buy a second hand handphone for motorola v3x.
HE offer me RM 300 include postage for that phone,include box and charger,and i bank in full amount to him cuz i trust him,his bank account number is 101030076113, and his phone number is 014-3901061..
after i bank in to him and few hours later he said he ady sent to me by using nationwide express..i have no doubt of it butwhen i ask for the package number he start finding excuse that it can't scan d receipt for me or something like that...until today i still got no news about him..
juz want to remind u guys that fi u saw this guys who wants to offer u something to sell to yuo please don get cheated...his name is LIM SANG HENG...

This post has been edited by maxking85: Oct 4 2007, 01:31 AM
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post Oct 3 2007, 05:32 PM

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First of all, is he from Lowyat.net?
where is the link of your thread?
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post Oct 3 2007, 05:41 PM

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first of all, u must move ur thread here :

http://forum.lowyat.net/TradeZoneHelpdesk&...esolutionCorner
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post Oct 3 2007, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(bornd @ Oct 3 2007, 05:41 PM)
first of all, u must move ur thread here :

http://forum.lowyat.net/TradeZoneHelpdesk&...esolutionCorner
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Thread Moved from Trade Zone Resource Centre
daijoubu
post Oct 3 2007, 08:27 PM

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you got conned by the 3rd party scam

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/530036

lim san heng is a reputable egold seller
read above
someone else got u to bank into his account

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post Oct 3 2007, 08:45 PM

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same name ,but the account number is same ??
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post Oct 3 2007, 09:39 PM

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yup same

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/478507

alot of ppl been using his acct/name to con
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post Oct 4 2007, 12:55 AM

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I think the mod needs to pin the below thread up : Buying Egold or Paypal from Lim Sang Heng
The first quote:
QUOTE(serene_kpf @ Oct 2 2007, 03:02 PM)
hi, my name is LIM SANG HENG, my friend just informed me that some people is using my name to cheat your money. My phone is 0167116429. For refund the money, i really cannot, because i have send out the egold, but please let me know the date of dealing, i want to check my egold, i can give you that guy phone number becasue mostly i want them to send sms for egold number in order to protect third party case,
yesterday i have stop the 1 cheating case who people bank in rm 550 to me, but then i do not have egold stock now, so, i just send the 117 paypal to a guy whose nameis cornelius ee soon heng. his phone 0129746632. you can call him to ask

for those who want to deal with me, please visit my website http://teleboss.mewahgold.com
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to TS, call the number to verify.

There's already a pinned topic regarding this scam:
Announcement: Beware of Recent New Con Trick
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There have been a lot of con-cases involving more than two parties. Example as below,

A and B (innocent traders)/C (conman)

1) C wanted to sell something and A wanted to buy it.

2) B is an egold/paypal seller not involved with the sales of A or C.

3) C told A to bank the money into B's account without B knowing and A believed it was C's account.

4) C told B he has banked in his money and B should transfer the egold/paypal.

5) A received nothing and he traced the bank account to B while B knows nothing. C ran away without sending anything to A after receiving egold/paypal from B.

Please be reminded that before you transfer ANYTHING into anyone's account, please check, double check and triple check that the person is indeed who he is.

Please report to us if you spot any suspicious trades going on and we will get to it.

Thank you.


I think the mod need to combine all this thread regarding this Lim Sang Heng
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post Oct 4 2007, 01:27 AM

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lim sang heng is not the only fella selling paypal/egold
there are many many others
but it is good to have a database on all genuine egold/paypal sellers
or at least pressure them to register on a database =.=
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post Oct 4 2007, 01:31 AM

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i just hope that i can get my money back and also hope that no other ppl cheated my this name again...i really dono got such things may be happened which the money can be transfer in such a way..thanks boon and daijoubu for teach me these things...i'm appreciate it...
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post Oct 4 2007, 02:48 AM

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Call Lim Sang Heng. He might still hold your money since he is wary of 3rd party scam. Otherwise all that he utters about defending his innocence are all pure bull.
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post Oct 4 2007, 04:21 AM

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next time always dealing using pm
at least ask him to pm you before bank in.
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post Oct 4 2007, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(sailou @ Oct 4 2007, 02:48 AM)
Call Lim Sang Heng. He might still hold your money since he is wary of 3rd party scam. Otherwise all that he utters about defending his innocence are all pure bull.
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He might or he might not. My bet the money is there but e-gold had been sent out. So if he refunded, than he is at lost.
So best solution is to call him out and maybe both go and report police on the scam. Who knows he might be gentleman enough to refund half.

QUOTE(arafat @ Oct 4 2007, 04:21 AM)
next time always dealing using pm
at least ask him to pm you before bank in.
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bro, you have to understand how scamming works. The scammer/conman had already added the victim to MSN. Thus any replies and communication to the conman, the victim would thought that "he" is the actual owner of whom he claimed to be. You asked him to PM you back, obviously he would....unless you know who the actual Lim Sang Heng is lar...if not, Lim Sang Heng's identity had already being taken over by the conman.

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post Oct 4 2007, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(b00n @ Oct 4 2007, 10:21 AM)
He might or he might not. My bet the money is there but e-gold had been sent out. So if he refunded, than he is at lost.
So best solution is to call him out and maybe both go and report police on the scam. Who knows he might be gentleman enough to refund half.

bro, you have to understand how scamming works. The scammer/conman had already added the victim to MSN. Thus any replies and communication to the conman, the victim would thought that "he" is the actual owner of whom he claimed to be. You asked him to PM you back, obviously he would....unless you know who the actual Lim Sang Heng is lar...if not, Lim Sang Heng's identity had already being taken over by the conman.
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I've an easy way to test.

(1) Bank in a SMALL AMOUNT of money to the A/C. Ex: RM10, RM20. If Maybank2u transfer better coz can do odd amount like RM12.30.

(2) PM/Call the seller ask how much you have banked in.

(3) If he's genuine, he'll be able to tell you what's the amount coz he owns the account, if he's fake, he'll not be able to tell you. Bank in the balance if genuine, if fake report police! smile.gif

So the most you lose is a small amount.

Can work ah??
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post Oct 4 2007, 12:04 PM

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haha...good idea.
but the conman might be smart enough to call up the e-gold victim to verify also and transmit what was being told to the buyer victim.

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post Oct 4 2007, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(b00n @ Oct 4 2007, 12:04 PM)
haha...good idea.
but the conman might be smart enough to call up the e-gold victim to verify also and transmit what was being told to the buyer victim.
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it would be better if all this money transfer we can see the account/name that transfer the money to us, even if its interbank giro..

eg you bank in money to me i can see your account number and name and amount so in that way fraud is prevented, but it only works for online transfer and cash deposit machine a little bit susah la..

that would be the best solution, so if you say you send money to me and i know your name is this but i receive it from other people then at least i would be alerted, eg something might be wrong..

but then even if do it that way the conman can do a 2-way(proxy) job to overcome this problem..


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post Oct 4 2007, 05:45 PM

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JinXXX,
It would look like a genuine transaction with the names and accounts correct.

1. Conman sees A selling e-gold.

2. Conman pose as A and approach B who is looking for stuffs.

3. Conman gave banking details of A for B to bank in.

4. Conman calls up A and said bank in already

5. A sees transaction goes through and send e-gold to conman.

so conclusion....B who is conned did actually banked into A's account which the identity had been used by the conman.
Basically A loose nothing but his reputation as B would start complaining about A as he doesn't know the "conman" existed.
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post Oct 4 2007, 06:15 PM

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i kinda did a writeup on a potential way to curb this problem, and it requires the paypal/egold seller to be the one doing it

as for potential buyers, always try to do a search of the sellers' account name on google and see whether it turns up any hits

or, whenever you send money, write in the description FOR LYN acct xxxx to BUY item XXX ONLY, if you are not xxxx, please call <your number>

link to my writeup : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=527291&hl=

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post Oct 4 2007, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(b00n @ Oct 4 2007, 05:45 PM)
JinXXX,
It would look like a genuine transaction with the names and accounts correct.

1. Conman sees A selling e-gold.

2. Conman pose as A and approach B who is looking for stuffs.

3. Conman gave banking details of A for B to bank in.

4. Conman calls up A and said bank in already

5. A sees transaction goes through and send e-gold to conman.

so conclusion....B who is conned did actually banked into A's account which the identity had been used by the conman.
Basically A loose nothing but his reputation as B would start complaining about A as he doesn't know the "conman" existed.
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well another way is escrow service smile.gif
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post Oct 7 2007, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Oct 4 2007, 11:27 PM)
well another way is escrow service smile.gif
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hi,to all my brohter, my name is lim sang heng, my phone is 016711649, right now, i have a lot of egold in my hands, so, please make sure that if you want to buy egold, ym me at sang_heng@yahoo.com, then my hanphone is register at digi under my name, it is register line. what i can control of scamming your money is if new people buy egold from me, i always tell them to sms egold number to me, what i can provide the tracking is only the sms.


Added on October 7, 2007, 12:41 am
QUOTE(Matrix @ Oct 4 2007, 12:00 PM)
I've an easy way to test.

(1) Bank in a SMALL AMOUNT of money to the A/C. Ex: RM10, RM20. If Maybank2u transfer better coz can do odd amount like RM12.30.

(2) PM/Call the seller ask how much you have banked in.

(3) If he's genuine, he'll be able to tell you what's the amount coz he owns the account, if he's fake, he'll not be able to tell you. Bank in the balance if genuine, if fake report police! smile.gif

So the most you lose is a small amount.

Can work ah??
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until today, i sell so much egold i also do not know how to protect, first of all the people transfer the maybank is without the account number , it is hard to trace, so it is why i always tell people to sms his egold number to my phone if any case happen. that guy who had been cheated for rm 200 had contact me and i also forward the sms to him and let him to trace.

by the way, i only successfully stop the case whose people pay me rm550 and rm650, that time i do not have egold stock yet, then need to wait at night, then those owner account faster call, then i have return those money to the owner account.

by the way, i will try my best to stop any third party scam. i am going to do teh website to let people register buying egold or other internet funds.

This post has been edited by serene_kpf: Oct 7 2007, 12:41 AM

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