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post Aug 29 2022, 10:15 PM, updated 4y ago

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“Hari ni RM 12K duit saya hilang dari Akaun Maybank. Pergi buat report di maybank, mereka kata ada buat pembelian guna debit kad pukul 4 pagi tadi dari Europe.
Persoalan di sini:

1. Limit saya untuk debit kad hanya 5k je. Macam mana boleh buat bayaran RM12k sekali transaksi.
2. Saya tak on pun transaksi untuk oversea sekarang sebab ada dekat Malaysia.
3. Kenapa saya tak terima apa2 notification sedangkan, kalau saya beli tiket wayang pakai debit kad pun biasanya dapat notification.
4. Saya dekat Malaysia je ni sekarang. Kad atm pun elok je dekat saya ni.
5. Macam mana Maybank boleh lepaskan payment yang banyak tanpa tanya customer dulu. Sedangkan kalau saya sendiri nak guna kat luar negara pun selalu decline je.
6. Saya dah 2 kali ke maybank untuk tukar kad atm lepas balik Europe sbb ada perasan duit hilang, tapi pegawai maybank kata tak perlu tukar selagi belum tamat tempoh cuma tukar no pin je.

JAWAPAN PEGAWAI MAYBANK:

- Akan dapat semula refund dalam 45 hari, tapi tak confirm.
kenapa lama sgt sampai 45 hari sedangkan duit tu masih floating?. kalau tak dapat refund mcmana?. Kenapa sy tak dibenarkan buat report polis dan repot ke bank negara ye?”

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post Aug 29 2022, 10:18 PM

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Jibek, 12k from debit???


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post Aug 29 2022, 10:23 PM

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better make police report.
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post Aug 29 2022, 10:26 PM

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Just direct report to police and BNM
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post Aug 29 2022, 10:26 PM

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seems like something behind went really wrong

so many bank accounts got hacked recently
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post Aug 29 2022, 10:27 PM

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Make police report and report to Bank negara.

Why can't report to Bnm?
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post Aug 29 2022, 10:36 PM

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This looks fishy, everytime when there's a transaction, they will show more details rather than just 'SALE DEBIT'
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post Aug 29 2022, 10:36 PM

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Dem, Maybank also kena?
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post Aug 29 2022, 10:39 PM

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srsly wtf is happening with malaysian online banking system?
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post Aug 29 2022, 10:40 PM

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Not allowed to make polis report?

That's fishy af
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post Aug 29 2022, 10:40 PM

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maruah bank akan tercabai nnt...
kenot reporto...


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post Aug 29 2022, 10:42 PM

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Online purchase. Not physical purchase. Moral of the story, never thy your cards with hp or nft or apps
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post Aug 29 2022, 10:43 PM

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May Bank
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post Aug 29 2022, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(croydon @ Aug 29 2022, 10:15 PM)
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“…lepas balik Europe…”

Card got cloned when in Europe? sad.gif
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post Aug 29 2022, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Aug 29 2022, 10:36 PM)
Dem, Maybank also kena?
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n /k say harimau online bank bestest … unsure.gif
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post Aug 29 2022, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Aug 29 2022, 10:18 PM)
Jibek, 12k from debit???
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own account cannot keep thousand$$ liao ini mcm… keep rm100 cukup! nod.gif
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post Aug 29 2022, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Aug 29 2022, 10:45 PM)
“…lepas balik Europe…”

Card got cloned when in Europe?  sad.gif
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Most likely scenario. There card cloning is very high tech and seriously rampant.
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post Aug 29 2022, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 29 2022, 10:59 PM)
Most likely scenario. There card cloning is very high tech and seriously rampant.
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e wallet scan n pay safer?
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post Aug 29 2022, 11:03 PM

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Day day need check balance d.
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post Aug 29 2022, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(likefunyouare @ Aug 29 2022, 10:26 PM)
seems like something behind went really wrong

so many bank accounts got hacked recently
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Last time my cc oso kena 3-4am @ Amazon. Online overseas purchase like x very safe.
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post Aug 29 2022, 11:05 PM

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Open a 2nd account, move your cash to that 2nd account, let your debit card deduction to withdraw from your almost-empty primary account.

You don't need to link 2nd account to the debit card.
Just use MAE app to transfer in-between when you need to spend.

Worried if people can access your internet banking? Well, regardless you use 1 account or 10 accounts, does it matter anyway if your online banking itself is compromised?
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I think now people making fake story of loosing money

So they get free money

Don't fall for pitty stories


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post Aug 29 2022, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(nicole_4ever @ Aug 29 2022, 11:03 PM)
Day day need check balance d.
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Can dispute Within 30 days fr statement date, I think…
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thats it

bawah bantal it is
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post Aug 29 2022, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Aug 29 2022, 11:05 PM)
Open a 2nd account, move your cash to that 2nd account, let your debit card deduction to withdraw from your almost-empty primary account.

You don't need to link 2nd account to the debit card.
Just use MAE app to transfer in-between when you need to spend.

Worried if people can access your internet banking? Well, regardless you use 1 account or 10 accounts, does it matter anyway if your online banking itself is compromised?
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Or convert access into e FD ?
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post Aug 29 2022, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Raddus @ Aug 29 2022, 11:05 PM)
I think now people making fake story of loosing money

So they get free money

Don't fall for pitty stories
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Why would ppl do that? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Aug 29 2022, 10:36 PM)
This looks fishy, everytime when there's a transaction, they will show more details rather than just 'SALE DEBIT'
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not necessarily. i have a lot of transaction that the description is only "sale debit".
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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Aug 29 2022, 11:10 PM)
Or convert access into e FD ?
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i only have normal banking accounts for daily spending usage.

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confirm got a trigger, if u didn't click any link or download or key in your details in some unknown suspicious website then impossible miraculously, suddenly get hack

if such a thing can happen, everyone can get hacked edi

BUT I do think, the bank should come up with something to prevent that

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QUOTE(KcX35 @ Aug 29 2022, 11:14 PM)
confirm got a trigger, if u didn't click any link or download or key in your details in some unknown suspicious website then miraculously, suddenly get hack

if such thing can happen, everyone can get hack edi

BUT I do think, the bank should come up with something to prevent that
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there is a case where money lost from tabung haji.

no debit card for tabung haji. can only withdraw from counter. yet money gone.

how to explain?
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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Aug 29 2022, 11:07 PM)
thats it

bawah bantal it is
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post Aug 29 2022, 11:21 PM

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Maybe continue use counter service lol like tat… 🫢
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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Aug 29 2022, 11:05 PM)
Open a 2nd account, move your cash to that 2nd account, let your debit card deduction to withdraw from your almost-empty primary account.

You don't need to link 2nd account to the debit card.
Just use MAE app to transfer in-between when you need to spend.

Worried if people can access your internet banking? Well, regardless you use 1 account or 10 accounts, does it matter anyway if your online banking itself is compromised?
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good advice.
Another way is to use credit card. At least can chargeback.

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QUOTE(3rdEdition @ Aug 29 2022, 11:14 PM)
Bnm need step up
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Huh? not allow to report pulis? big red flag so big fishy this one.
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post Aug 29 2022, 11:23 PM

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Maybank is shiet right now. I kena multiple tansactions few months back. But small sums.

Got my refund. Now i dnt leave money in maybank, just use it for online transaction and payment, just leave rm10 balance.

Debit/atm card cancelled.
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Thus guy seriously use his debit oversea?

Why?
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QUOTE(AdisonMak @ Aug 29 2022, 11:23 PM)
Huh? not allow to report pulis? big red flag so big fishy this one.
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takut fine by BNM le apa lagi...

Go and report dun gif face. Let them kena.
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Aug 29 2022, 11:05 PM)
I think now people making fake story of loosing money

So they get free money

Don't fall for pitty stories
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Good time to blame the bank
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QUOTE(croydon @ Aug 29 2022, 10:15 PM)
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HIGH ALERT. If they day no need report, smthg not right.

I had the same thing in a different bank. TURNED OUT THAT THE PEOPLE who called me to inform misuse of my card, WERE THE REAL SCAMMERS. THEY TRIED TO BULLSHIT AND OBTAIN MY DETAILS FOR OTHER BANK ACCOUNTS.

Ts, are you sure you spoke to the bank officers ?
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QUOTE(viole @ Aug 29 2022, 11:15 PM)
there is a case where money lost from tabung haji.

no debit card for tabung haji. can only withdraw from counter. yet money gone.

how to explain?
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hack online bank ac 2 w/draw fr tabung haji online ? hmm.gif
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Funny that BNM is quiet all these while, no statements or assurances whatsoever.
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QUOTE(viole @ Aug 29 2022, 11:15 PM)
there is a case where money lost from tabung haji.

no debit card for tabung haji. can only withdraw from counter. yet money gone.

how to explain?
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I have my Amanah Saham account linked to Maybank and CIMB.
Tabung Haji also linked to both.
Amanah Saham looks like can only deposit money from Maybank and CIMB. But Tabung Haji can deposit and withdraw.

The case you mentioned is the one from few days ago? The one supposedly withdrawn to a bank account in China? I didn't keep track of that.
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QUOTE(wanna be hi-tech @ Aug 29 2022, 11:27 PM)
HIGH ALERT. If they day no need report, smthg not right.

I had the same thing in a different bank. TURNED OUT THAT THE PEOPLE who called me to inform misuse of my card, WERE THE REAL SCAMMERS. THEY TRIED TO BULLSHIT AND OBTAIN MY DETAILS FOR OTHER BANK ACCOUNTS.

Ts, are you sure you spoke to the bank officers ?
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QUOTE(wanna be hi-tech @ Aug 29 2022, 11:23 PM)
Maybank is shiet right now. I kena multiple tansactions few months back. But small sums.

Got my refund. Now i dnt leave money in maybank, just use it for online transaction and payment, just leave rm10 balance.

Debit/atm card cancelled.
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U cancel debit card? How u masuk / keluar cash $$$?


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Any1 use Apple Pay? Supposedly safer than other ewallet / cc rite?
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Aug 29 2022, 10:23 PM)
better make police report.
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QUOTE(UnknownMy @ Aug 29 2022, 10:26 PM)
Just direct report to police and BNM
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Usually no need to report to police or BNM because it looks like it is a "card not present" fraud, which is very common, and it is a weakness of the debit or credit card system.

The victim will eventually get back the money, but it would take some time.


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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Aug 29 2022, 11:35 PM)
U cancel debit card? How u masuk / keluar cash $$$?
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I ask bank to disable my debit card online purchase function
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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Aug 29 2022, 11:35 PM)
U cancel debit card? How u masuk / keluar cash $$$?
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Like i said, i just use maybank to do online payment and shopping. I transfer the needed amount into the account, quickly do the purchase and leave the account dry. No cards at all.

With this method, hopefully my other bank accounts are safe, as i dnt use them to effect payment to any third party.

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QUOTE(likefunyouare @ Aug 29 2022, 10:26 PM)
seems like something behind went really wrong

so many bank accounts got hacked recently
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This is not an incident of bank account hacking. This is debit/credit card fraud. Two totally different matter.
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QUOTE(wanna be hi-tech @ Aug 29 2022, 11:39 PM)
Like i said, i just use maybank to do online payment and shopping. I transfer the needed amount into the account, quickly do the purchase and leave the account dry. No cards at all.

With this method, hopefully my other bank accounts are safe, as i dnt use them to effect payment to any third party.
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QUOTE(trusol @ Aug 29 2022, 11:40 PM)
This is not an incident of bank account hacking. This is debit/credit card fraud. Two totally different matter.
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so how 2 prevent cc dc fraud?
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i bet many old/dead ppl money in account got stolen nobody knows

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QUOTE(PJng @ Aug 29 2022, 11:38 PM)
I ask bank to disable my debit card online purchase function
All use cc
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Is using ewallet safer than debit card?
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BUNTU DUIT HILANG DALAM AKAUN BANK ANDA – INI CARA BUAT LAPORAN DAN DAPATKAN SEMULA DUIT ANDA

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Mesti ramai yang panik bila tiba-tiba duit dalam bank kena tolak walaupun kita tak melakukan sebarang transaksi.

Kalau setakat RM5-RM10 tu tahanlah lagi, ni ada yang sampai beratus-ratus dan beribu-ribu entah dari mana!

Apa yang sepatutnya kita buat dan bagaimana nak dapatkan balik duit yang hilang dalam akaun tu?

Di sini kami kongsikan tips daripada Peguam Messrs. Azimah & Co.dan juga pengalaman individu yang pernah mendapatkan balik duitnya yang hilang dalam akaun bank sebelum ini.

Semoga dapat dijadikan panduan untuk kita kalau berlaku kes-kes begini. Taklah panik dan terus biarkan scammer tu terlepas kan?

Tips Dari Peguam: Cara Buat Laporan Jika Duit Hilang Dalam Akaun Bank

1) HUBUNGI TALIAN HOTLINE BANK ANDA UNTUK MEMBUAT SEKATAN KE ATAS AKAUN ANDA.

- Pertama sekali, sila maklumkan kepada pihak bank anda mengesyaki pihak lain melakukan transaksi tanpa kebenaran anda.

- Minta bank block transaksi yang sama supaya tiada lagi transaksi boleh dilakukan oleh individu yang tidak diketahui itu.

Kadang-kadang ada kes transaksi dilakukan berkali-kali sampai habis duit dalam akaun bank, barulah kita sedar!


2) KUMPUL BUKTI
Antara bukti yang perlu anda semak dan cari :

- Mesej pengeluaran/pemindahan yang diterima daripada pihak bank ke telefon anda.

- Screenshot online transaction daripada website bank anda (sekiranya anda mempunyai akaun untuk online transaction.).

- Jika tidak, boleh minta salinan transaksi di kaunter bank.

3) REPOT POLIS

- Buat report polis di balai polis berhampiran mengenai pengeluaran/ pemindahan duit yang berlaku.

- Bawa dokumen dan bukti yang telah dikumpulkan.

4) PERGI KE CAWANGAN BANK TEMPAT ANDA BUKA AKAUN

- Namun sekiranya jauh dari tempat anda berada sekarang, anda boleh pergi ke mana-mana cawangan bank berdekatan.
Bawa segala dokumen yang berkaitan termasuk repot polis.

- Maklumkan kepada pihak mereka kejadian yang berlaku. (Pihak bank akan memaklumkan tempoh masa untuk mereka melakukan siasatan).
Ambil nombor telefon pegawai bank yang berurusan dengan anda.

5) ANDA BOLEH TUNGGU SEHINGGA DIHUBUNGI OLEH PIHAK BANK

- Bank mungkin akan mengambil masa untuk menjalankan siasatan dan memaklumkan anda semula tentang kes ini.

- Jadi, anda perlu hubungi bank dari semasa ke semasa untuk mendapatkan perkembangan tentang kes kehilangan wang anda.

5) MEMBUAT LAPORAN DI BANK NEGARA
Satu lagi cara yang boleh dilakukan adalah dengan membuat laporan di Bank Negara Malaysia.

Talian BNM Telelink

Telefon: 1-300-88-5465 / 603-2698-8044 / 2698 9044 / 9179 2888
Luar Negara: +603-21741717
Waktu Operasi : 9 pagi – 5 petang (Isnin – Jumaat)

Laman Web
Pautan: Borang eLink BNM

Pusat Khidmat Pelanggan
BNMLINK (Laman Informasi Nasihat dan Khidmat)
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50480 Kuala Lumpur

Tapiiiii KENA INGAT ni. Bank negara telah memaklumkan bahawa sebelum isi form ni, kita sebagai pengguna perlu BERUSAHA mendapatkan penyelesaian dengan Unit Aduan institusi kewangan/pengeluar instrumen pembayaran.

Maksudnya, kita sedaya upaya kena cuba berurusan dengan bank dahulu berkenaan isu hilang duit. Sudah pasti apabila kejadian duit hilang ni di adukan pada bank, pihak bank akan menyiasat terlebih dahulu dan akan memaklumkan pada anda apa yang berlaku.


Sekiranya anda MASIH TIDAK BERPUAS HATI dengan maklum balas/ hasil siasatan pihak bank, barulah anda boleh isi borang ini. Sila BACA dan HADAM info sebelum isi borang tersebut kerana Bank Negara meletakkan beberapa kondisi/ syarat sebelum isi form.

Sila baca maklumat lanjut di website Bank Negara di link di bawah:
http://www.bnm.gov.my/

6) JIKA TIDAK MAHU MENUNGGU LAMA, ANDA BOLEH MENGHANTAR LETTER OF DEMAND (LOD) KEPADA PIHAK BANK

- Lantik peguam untuk menyediakan LOD bagi mendapatkan penjelasan tentang transaksi yang berlaku tanpa pengetahuan anda.

- Peguam akan request pihak bank untuk melakukan siasatan dalam tempoh yang diberikan.

Sekiranya penjelasan yang di berikan oleh pihak bank tidak memuaskan, atau anda mendapati wujud faktor kelalaian, atau kemungkinan data privasi anda dicerobohi, anda boleh mengambil tindakan lanjut dengan MEMFAILKAN SAMAN.

Kos untuk menyediakan LOD tidak seperti kos memfailkan saman. Ia jauh lebih murah dan merupakan langkah yang cepat jika anda ingin mendesak bank meneliti apa yang berlaku pada akaun bank anda dengan kadar segera. Namun perlu diingat, langkah ini hanyalah membantu mempercepatkan proses siasatan. Ini bukanlah suatu jaminan bahawa duit anda akan dipulangkan!

Setelah maklum balas diperolehi dari pihak bank, sekiranya anda masih tidak berpuas hati dengan jawapan yang diberikan pihak bank, anda boleh mendapatkan nasihat daripada peguam anda untuk langkah seterusnya.

*Sumber: Messrs. Azimah & Co.

Pengalaman Dapatkan Semula Wang Yang Hilang Dalam Akaun Bank (Maybank)
Melalui Twitter, seorang pengguna menceritakan pengalaman beliau yang berjaya mendapatkan semula duit yang hilang dalam akaun bank dalam masa 18 hari.

Katanya ada scammer dari Facebook yang buat illegal transaction dengan matawang USD di akaun Maybank miliknya.



Inilah antara transaksi yang telah dicaj pada akaun Maybank @Misszee.

Jadi apa yang dilakukan? Ini tips yang dikongsikan untuk dapatkan balik duit yang hilang dalam akaun tu.


@Misszee juga berpesan, seeloknya buat e-mail maklumbalas dan cc kepada Bank Negara.

Kalau ikutkan Maybank akan ambil masa 60 hari untuk siasatam dan tak jamin akan dapat balik duit tu.

Tapi lepas hubungi BNM, @Misszee berjaya dapatkan semula duit dalam masa 18 hari.


Disertakan juga e-mel dari Maybank sebagai bukti.


Ok, diharapkan perkongsian inisedikit sebanyak dapat memberi ‘sinar’ pada anda yang kehilangan wang di akaun bank. Yelah, mungkin ramai yang kata susah nak dapat balik duit tu kan…Tapi sebenarnya boleh jika kita adukan mengikut langkah yang betul.

Yang penting jangan panik ya!
Cuba ikuti langkah ini untuk salurkan laporan anda.

Semoga tips ini dapat membantu anda mendapatkan semula duit yang hilang dalam akaun bank.
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QUOTE(trusol @ Aug 29 2022, 11:40 PM)
This is not an incident of bank account hacking. This is debit/credit card fraud. Two totally different matter.
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how come using debit card no need TAC or anything?
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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Aug 29 2022, 11:41 PM)
ic… need 2 b tat cautious… sweat.gif
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So far so good!
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QUOTE(likefunyouare @ Aug 29 2022, 11:45 PM)
how come using debit card no need TAC or anything?
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Maybank is shiet right now. I kena multiple tansactions few months back. But small sums.

Got my refund. Now i dnt leave money in maybank, just use it for online transaction and payment, just leave rm10 balance.

Debit/atm card cancelled.
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Not advisable to use debit cards for online purchases. Use credit cards instead, because you don't lose money instantly unlike debit cards.

Some online shopping platforms have FPX payment option - use that instead of entering debit card details if you don't have a credit card.


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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Aug 29 2022, 11:44 PM)
Is using ewallet safer than debit card?
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Always better. You dnt leave much money in e wallet. Transfer in when needed. If you use your debit card where your savings are, then its going to be sleepless nights.
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QUOTE(trusol @ Aug 29 2022, 11:49 PM)
Not advisable to use debit cards for online purchases. Use credit cards instead, because you don't lose money instantly unlike debit cards.

Some online shopping platforms have FPX payment option - use that instead of entering debit card details if you don't have a credit card.
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Yeah, i learnt that. If need arises, i just use credit card. I just hold one atm card at the moment !

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so how 2 prevent cc dc fraud?
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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Aug 29 2022, 09:11 AM)
Why would ppl do that?  unsure.gif
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Yup, some people are taking advantage of this situation to scam the bank. Easy money for them...

But banks able to detect it is fake by using the transaction ID, the transaction ID does not exist in bank records.

With photoshop, inspect element tweaking, etc some people are manipulating their accounts like their money got stolen creating false accusations.

Got this info from my friend working in one of banks in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Aug 29 2022, 11:44 PM)
Is using ewallet safer than debit card?
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I long time did not use actual card, all use samsung pay
And ewaller
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use CC instead.

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Sendiri pwrgi tekan link bukan2 then nak salahkan bank.

Ptuih.
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how come using debit card no need TAC or anything?
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Some countries still haven't implement entering PIN when paying with card. Some still have no chips, still using magnetic stripe, which may be cloned. Some still have not implemented 3-D Secure, which sends out OTP using SMS before authorization.

Many supposedly developed countries are still quite backward in implementing all those things because they have invested in many obsolete tech, and too costly to replace them all.


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If swipe debit card, there will be a limit
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Oversea shop usually doesnt require OTP to proceed....
once they got ur Card number, they can get things done easily
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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Aug 30 2022, 12:07 AM)
Oversea shop usually doesnt require OTP to proceed....
once they got ur Card number, they can get things done easily
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Ayam wonder why

Yahoodee encourage the fraud activities?
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Not report to polis is a no no
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Credit card dispute is very common. Happened to me a few times before. All gets resolved without reporting to police.

Debit card fraud is a bigger headache than credit card fraud because your cash is gone and there will be some time before the money is returned.


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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Aug 30 2022, 12:09 AM)
Ayam wonder why

Yahoodee encourage the fraud activities?
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Some Europe countries practice Full Democratic, Central Bank ask, all the banks has the right to Challenge the decision.
So probably they have options to implement OTP....
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Exactly. confused.gif How come set limit rm5k but scammer got away rm12k?
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Exactly.  confused.gif  How come set limit rm5k but scammer got away rm12k?
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Probably 24hr limit.
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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Aug 30 2022, 12:02 AM)
Sendiri pwrgi tekan link bukan2 then nak salahkan bank.

Ptuih.
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Probably 24hr limit.
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Dun understand… 5k within 24 hour, 5k next 24 hour, 2k next next 24 hour? 3x?

Btw can scammer access 2 eFD?
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Dun understand… 5k within 24 hour, 5k next 24 hour, 2k next next 24 hour? 3x?

Btw can scammer access 2 eFD?
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That would require access to both online banking password and your sms. Can happen to hijacked phones, i.e. have installed scammer's app.


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Like wat link?  blink.gif
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Link from whatsapp or sms...

Then install scammer apps without knowing.

That is the ONLY way scammmer get access to sms and username password.
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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Aug 30 2022, 12:42 AM)
Link from whatsapp or sms...

Then install scammer apps without knowing.

That is the ONLY way scammmer get access to sms and username password.
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it use to be rampant few years ago
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QUOTE(PJng @ Aug 29 2022, 11:38 PM)
I ask bank to disable my debit card online purchase function
All use cc
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Is using ewallet safer than debit card?
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use cc safer than anything linked directly towards your salary money. If bank's own money was frauded.. they will get their money back the same way how aggressive they collect their debt from people.

The worst is your liability is up to RM250 only if you fail to alert bank in timely manner for transaction fraud.

Your salary money frauded? yeah take a number & wait your turn.

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That would require access to both online banking password and your sms. Can happen to hijacked phones, i.e. have installed scammer's app.
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Debit card wehhh ohmy.gif

I thought mbb disable debit card for online oversea transaction???
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QUOTE(Daniel Hyuuga @ Aug 30 2022, 08:41 AM)
use cc safer than anything linked directly towards your salary money. If bank's own money was frauded.. they will get their money back the same way how aggressive they collect their debt from people.

The worst is your liability is up to RM250 if you fail to alert bank in timely manner for transaction fraud.

Your salary money frauded? yeah take a number & wait your turn.
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THIS

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/maxi...nsactions-rm250

Maximum liability for unauthorised credit card transactions at RM250

KUALA LUMPUR: The Association of Banks in Malaysia (ABM) says a card holder’s maximum liability for unauthorised transactions due to a lost or stolen credit card shall not exceed RM250. It said on June 12 this limit would only apply if the cardholder did not act fraudulently or had not failed to inform the bank as soon as reasonably practicable after he or she found out the credit card was lost or stolen.
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debit will never use for paywave always use cc so just limit spending amount to RM0. This works in public bank and maybank. however, rhb bank one cannot find in new ui.
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Maybank sudah tidak selamat. Why only cash at bank hilang. Loans tak hilang.
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"Saya dah 2 kali ke maybank untuk tukar kad atm lepas balik Europe sbb ada perasan duit hilang, tapi pegawai maybank kata tak perlu tukar selagi belum tamat tempoh cuma tukar no pin je"

Officer fishy af, or story penambah perisa.

If must use debit card for transaction, better to have another bank account for it. Main account with money transfer to second account, only use second account for purchase.
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Must report la dei.

Later Mbb tercabar, must expose where transaction went then only we know who is telling lies.
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I wonder these guys kena hacked money got play crypto or not?
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ai pay lapang lapang debit kad
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come on Ktard Maybank insider, tell us the truth la, who is controlling?
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something off bout the story on the banker advice not to change the card just pin
really really fishy
should reveal which banker the victim talk to because i think the SOP of this kind of suspicious/fraud transaction, it's their responsibility to advice customer to change the card not pin

fishy
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For safety better use prepaid credit card like Bigpay card for overseas online shopping.

If anything happen also only affected the credit inside only and usually small amount.

Never ever use debit card for swipe shopping unless forgot bring cc la.


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sounds like card kena skimmed, weird bank tak reccomend tukar card when user themselves made an effort to change
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QUOTE(AyamBannedTwice @ Aug 30 2022, 11:25 AM)
something off bout the story on the banker advice not to change the card just pin
really really fishy
should reveal which banker the victim talk to because i think the SOP of this kind of suspicious/fraud transaction, it's their responsibility to advice customer to change the card not pin

fishy
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change pin number bcoz ori story wife took the card and withdraw money without him knowing?
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 29 2022, 10:59 PM)
Most likely scenario. There card cloning is very high tech and seriously rampant.
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thing is, there's a transaction limit. and user din even received any notification.
this is something i dun understand.
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Aug 30 2022, 11:39 AM)
thing is, there's a transaction limit. and user din even received any notification.
this is something i dun understand.
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Clone card and phone sim can?
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Clone card and phone sim can?
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so there's 2 same number? so the notification goes to which phone? how does that work eh?

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The statement in bank app and website is alway a bs thing without detail
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The fella card Kena cloned when at Europe la tu.
If not mistaken can change TAC phone number from the atm machine also
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why the victim so stupid use debit card in europe?

why don't use credit card instead?
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QUOTE(Daniel Hyuuga @ Aug 30 2022, 11:38 AM)
change pin number bcoz ori story wife took the card and withdraw money without him knowing?
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Clone card and phone sim can?
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clone card possible
phone number can change at atm machine, but need to know victime IC no.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 29 2022, 10:59 PM)
Most likely scenario. There card cloning is very high tech and seriously rampant.
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if card clone, the number won't be that flat due to currency xchange
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QUOTE(AyamBannedTwice @ Aug 30 2022, 12:13 PM)
clone card possible
phone number can change at atm machine, but need to know victime IC no.
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how about the syndicate has bought the leaked MCMC/ Masis data to match the user phone? Then it just a matter of making a simple database to match the name and you have all the details inside.
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Maybe Onlyfan transaction?
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how about the syndicate has bought the leaked MCMC/ Masis data to match the user phone? Then it just a matter of making a simple database to match the name and you have all the details inside.
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Possible
But something fishy bout the story & he already delete the post from his fb
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QUOTE(AyamBannedTwice @ Aug 30 2022, 01:17 PM)
Possible
But something fishy bout the story & he already delete the post from his fb
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Maybe he kuda attensi. Or probably trying to make MBB look bad due to his bad experience with them.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 29 2022, 10:59 PM)
Most likely scenario. There card cloning is very high tech and seriously rampant.
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Cloning is just copy the magnetic strip of the card

Chip on the other hand, haven't heard any news it can be cloned
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cb ts got 12k
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Aug 30 2022, 01:20 PM)
Cloning is just copy the magnetic strip of the card

Chip on the other hand, haven't heard any news it can be cloned
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RFID skimming.
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regardless cloning card or not, TAC & OTP should have been made aware to the registrar of the account. since the account is tied to the account's phone number, large transaction above RM1k should have been notified to the user's account.

this one no notice, this is absurdly ridiculous. Bila la banks wana improve on the security? how are we safe anymore from this?
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Aug 29 2022, 10:23 PM)
better make police report.
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Yes. No need bank permission to make police report. This is very likely internal job smile.gif
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people kept saying card cloning which is possible
but still, the transaction is overseas and owner never activate overseas transaction and yet it didn't triggered any warning and the transaction actually went through

this is the most suspicious part
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Keep money in crypto or ibkr account or just keep in genting kasino account topkek more safe
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i think its a floating debit transaction

 

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