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post Oct 10 2022, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(aironiq @ Oct 10 2022, 03:45 PM)
Love to the max bro! she always like gold.. her last iphone was iP 11 Pro Max rose gold. But in my opinion, I think rose gold is nicer colour than the current gold. Anyway hapy wife, happy life  biggrin.gif
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Rose gold is like pink so it suits women more.

As a man I like the current Gold. Like real physical gold
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post Oct 11 2022, 12:44 PM

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I think lately can just go Machines and buy on the spot.

Called one of the Machines in KL yesterday asking for 14 Pro Max 512GB, sadly no stock,
then I asked how about 256GB, they have 14PM 256GB (Gold) and (Space Black). First come first serve basis

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post Oct 13 2022, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(cheesey @ Oct 12 2022, 09:25 PM)
Hi guys,

PO on 6th OCT 2022 via switch, and now getting update 'IN PROGRESS' usually how long it will take to reach switch store?

My order should eta by 4 weeks onwards...
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What size and color?

I think Silver is hard to get, and also 512GB
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post Oct 14 2022, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(YK90 @ Oct 13 2022, 03:40 PM)
Just walk-in Machine 1U, asking if they have ready stock for iphone 14 Pro Max, Deep Purple 128GB, turn out they do have, BUT u have to bundle up with their machine protection plan, ridiculous...
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How much extra did you have to pay?

Cheapest one I saw online is battery replacement @ Rm46


Other than deep purple 128GB, do you remember if they have any other Pro Max at different storage and color?

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post Oct 18 2022, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Ziet Inv @ Oct 17 2022, 05:10 PM)
I walked in to enquire Pavilion KL branch last friday, the sales person said maybe the next 3-4 days? (seems like he doesn't know what he's talking about anyway)

Took that with a huge bag of salt lmao  bye.gif
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Do you remember if there is any ready stock of 14 Pro Max in Pavilion? Any size, any color
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post Oct 20 2022, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Ziet Inv @ Oct 20 2022, 10:24 AM)
silver 512 gb, just want to see if they actually restocked silver or not
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Help me to see if there is 512GB as well, any color will do for me haha.

Will go next week
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post Oct 27 2022, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(cheesey @ Oct 26 2022, 08:30 AM)
Those who bought from Switch/Machines maybe can try this way, for me it only took 1 week to get 512gb altough the eta date 4 weeks above (remember ya 4 weeks onwards mean it could be 6 weeks, 7 weeks and maybe a year to fullfill hahaha)

Try this if you use store collection:

1. Call store everyday, and ask for stock availability
2. In my case i PO 512gb, Deep Purple
3. Tried call them for few days everyday, and my luck there 1 unit available due customer not pick it up, but the color is gold.
4. Just dont want wait any longer just grab what available, just put on casing then color problem solve for me.
5. Ordered on 6th Oct and i received on 16th Oct. Only take 10 days.
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Can they do that if customer has paid in full? Or maybe just RM300 deposit?

Anyway, I just walked in to Machines in Dpulse Cyberjaya and asked for 512GB but sadly no ready stock, and they only had 1TB Pro Max (gold) so I just bought it since I was in rush
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post Oct 27 2022, 08:35 PM

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Not sure if I am doing this right.

So I switch on my new Iphone 14 PM and then use the 'transfer method' and now I have to download software update for iOS 16.1 and on my old iphone it shows 'Finish on new iphone" and shows "Keep this iphone near your new iphone while your information is transferred."

It looks like my new iPhone is updating to iOS 16.1 (4 hours remaining) and doing files transfer at the same time?

I haven't even connected my new Iphone to my home wifi yet and I am wondering how does it download the new iOS 16.1? No sim card in yet either

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post Oct 31 2022, 01:37 PM

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Question about the photography regarding macro mode.
Coming from iPhone 11 so this is new to me.

I love to take close-up shot of food and I notice the picture quality for 14PM is worse than my iPhone 11 for the words of surrounding area when I take close up picture.

Should the "macro control" be turned on in Camera setting? From what I read I should.
Then there is a 'yellow flower' icon when I want to take picture. Should I use this or not when taking picture up close?

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post Oct 31 2022, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(T09 @ Oct 31 2022, 05:36 PM)
Do you mean when the camera turns into macro mode during close up shot, it appears to be slightly 'grainy' or not so crystal clear/HD than when you are in normal mode with wide camera? At least that is what i noticed on my 13PM.
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Not sure if that's the case

Look at the 3 pictures below. You can see that the object nearer to the camera is clearer, and the one further away is more blurry.

1) The words on the egg is blurry than the stuff nearer infront of camera

2) The curry(further away) is more blurry than the rice.

3) The words on the cup(further away) is blurry.

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post Nov 1 2022, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Nov 1 2022, 10:52 AM)
I'm not an iPhone user but I can comment based on my photography background.

You are not supposed to use macro mode in the sample you provide because the subject (food) is far away. Macro mode is for close up range (e.g. as close as 2 cm for iPhone 14 series). Example of macro shot: https://i0.wp.com/9to5mac.com/wp-content/up...fo&w=2000&ssl=1

Having said that, the "blurry"/out of focus area is due to iP14PM larger sensor size. The larger is the sensor size (and also lens aperture in general, but iP14PM and iP11 have same f/1.8 aperture), the more background blur you will get. Mind you this is not a software trick like portrait mode. In fact, the purpose of portrait mode is to emulate the large aperture out of focus blur like a DSLR and no software trick could recover the blurred image as well. This is an inherit effect of going for a larger sensor size.
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Thanks for your info. The Macro mode works fine for some picture

But for some shots, like this one below where it is far enough where I cannot even choose to use Macro or not, you can see the center part is clear but the part on top where it shows the time 15:52 and "Battery Health & Charging" is like having double vision, or like my hand was shaking when taking the picture

Even my iPhone 11 has clearer picture all around.

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post Nov 1 2022, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Nov 1 2022, 04:44 PM)
I do not have an iPhone to test but the situation you mentioned is actually very common for large sensor and/or lens aperture. Take a look at the following diagram:

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Basically, if the lens focus at the center of your subject, whatever further away from that point will gradually become out of focus. This is because the focus distance from your lens to center (red line) and the top (green line) are different. For camera with small size sensor or aperture, this behavior is not as significant because it has a larger focus zone and will only start to see out of focus part when it is very further away.

You can use this aperture simulator to understand the behaviour: http://www.andersenimages.com/tutorials/exposure-simulator/
Choose aperture priority.
Then set the aperture slider to f/1.4 (means more light goes into the sensor). Notice whatever behind the subject is blurred.
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Thanks mate.

In other words, the aperture for iPhone 14PM has smaller number than iPhone 11 due to having bigger lens?

From what I read, it looks like I can't change the aperture on the iPhone
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post Nov 1 2022, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Nov 1 2022, 05:20 PM)
Their aperture value are roughly the same, IP14PM f/1.78 vs IP11 f/1.8
but their sensor size is really different:
https://forums.macrumors.com/proxy.php?imag...739f8ecdebddf8b

If we take into account of sensor size, we can normalize their aperture value to 35-mm equivalent (full frame sensor) so that they are comparable. After a series of calculation, that would be f/6.3 for IP14PM and f/10.2 for IP11P.

Here’s the aperture scale. Each step down lets in half as much light:

f/1.4 (very large opening of your aperture blades, lets in a lot of light)
f/2.0 (lets in half as much light as f/1.4)
f/2.8 (lets in half as much light as f/2.0)
f/4.0 (etc.)
f/5.6
f/8.0
f/11.0
f/16.0

We can approximately say that the IP11P only let in a quarter of light vs IP14PM.

Unfortunately, iPhone (and most phones) has a fixed aperture. IIRC, Samsung S9, S10, and Sony Pro-i have dual aperture system. The new Huawei Mate 50 series have variable aperture (f/1.4 to f/4.0).
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You are right about the aperture as I just checked the close up shot of my food taken with both iPhone 11 and 14PM.
iPhone 14PM : f/1.78
iPhone 11 : f/1.8

Learned new thing from you regarding the amount of light!

Basically, all iPhone 14 Pro Max would have the same picture quality like those pics I posted earlier right? And not just my current 14 Pro Max (blurry photo the further away from center.. a.k.a the double vision)
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post Nov 1 2022, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(lazyman@home @ Nov 1 2022, 06:30 PM)
You can try if still getting blurry pic when you take the pic perpendicularly. By this way, the object will be in same plane of focus area rather than tilted where got difference in distance.
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Good idea. Will try next and see how
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post Nov 2 2022, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(weihaoteo @ Nov 2 2022, 10:44 AM)
Hi all
just want to ask the iPhone 14 pro user, should I change my phone from 11 pro to 14 pro? Is it worth changing or should I wait for the next iPhone ?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Definitely!

The 120Hz alone is worth it.
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post Nov 10 2022, 01:09 PM

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Regarding battery for 14PM,
I charged it to 100% before I slept last night and when I woke up this morning it is 94%. Is it normal?

IOS 16.1
AOD off

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post Nov 10 2022, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(netken @ Nov 10 2022, 01:36 PM)
sounds about right - best i've experience is a drop of 2% overnight ...
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Nov 10 2022, 01:51 PM)
Seems pretty normal to me.
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Good to know.

Felt a lot faster than I thought
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QUOTE(PeeEl @ Nov 10 2022, 06:22 PM)
I don’t want to be a party popper as I don’t share the others’ views who said it’s normal. Mind you, not saying they are wrong. My input here is based on my very own experience.

Every time, if at all my battery is charged full to 100% at night before I hit the sack, the next morning it’s still at 100%. This is so far every single time. BTW, mine is 14Pro. Don’t ask me what I do to make it such cause I just use my phone as normal. Why yours differs from mine, I don’t have an answer. Perhaps others can share their own experience. I do not have AOD on and averagely it’s about 7 hours of ‘downtime’.
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That's awesome!

I remember last time (previous iPhone) that if I charged to 100%, the next day it was like 100%, but if I only charged it to 99%, then the next day it might be around 94-95%.
And the battery "health" was around 93%.

My new 14PM still has battery health at 100% so I find it weird that it drains faster than I would have liked. But relived to see it is not just me and there are 2 guys who replied me above who think it is normal
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QUOTE(doppatroll @ Nov 11 2022, 03:55 PM)
Just turn off your connection to wifi, 4g and AOD .....i stop charging my phone at 10pm and next morning i walk up still get 100% until i enter office and start using the phone surf lazada, shoppee, fb and some youtube until 8am i get like 95%...i did that most of the time coz i don need them as i have my pad at home and i don take call or message when im sleeping
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Will try to turn off wifi and see how it goes tonight
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QUOTE(nonexno @ Nov 30 2022, 09:45 AM)
i find that 13 pro to 14 max not much difference. except $$$
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What do you think about camera?

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