Helloooo sifus, I am deciding to maybe get Triumph Trident 660 as my very first bike.

But before i make that expensive decision, just wanna check if anyone here have had experiences with the maintenance cost.
Like are those break pads expensive and stuff?
Would every service be like rm2k?

With Triumph Trident being in Malaysia for a while, would outside workshop be able to service it already? and parts being cheaper


This post has been edited by Flammingbutt: Aug 15 2022, 06:04 PM

Why not just ask Triumph?

Bikes are relatively simple to work on, a lot of more established big bikes shops are able to service it. But since you are buying a new bike then you are still stuck with the dealer anyway until warranty runs out.

First service 1000km.. cheap as only to check the bike and open the rpm limiter
First 10k km service .. 500 to 600 ringgit
First 20k Km service .. 1500 Ringgit plus-minus, depends on how many valves need adjustment.

Then.. the cycle repeats, next 10k km around 500 to 600 ringgit then every 20k km need valve check around 1500 Ringgit plus minus..

This is based on Triumph Tiger 800 maintenances with FastBikes PJ which has triple cylinders as the Trident.

Trident brake caliper Nissin brand? if yes around 150 to 200 ringgit one piece..

This post has been edited by ajaibman: Aug 16 2022, 04:56 PM

Check with the sales agent if you get a RM500 voucher when you purchase the bike. I know I did. This can be used to offset the cost of your first 1000km break-in service. If you kiamsiap, you can bring your own engine oil provided it's of the correct spec.

For simple oil changes outside workshops may be able to do it but whether or not they have the tool to plug in & reset the service reminder spanner icon is another matter.

If me... I'd just stick with Triumph for servicing for at least until the warranty is over.

I hear the Tiger 660 has a whopping 16000km or 1-year svc interval, so chances are you'll only need to do it once a year.

Just stick to servicing with Triumph while under warranty. It is not like a Japanese bike where you can take anywhere to service after warranty. Heck even with warranty many also go elsewhere to service. But don't play around with Triumph, Ducati, BMW or other non-Japanese bikes as you somehow will need their warranty and their diag tool. They're 'branded' so you kinda need to go back to them...maybe until after the warranty then decide otherwise. But I wouldn't recommend it. Some have found good mechanics outside the official circle but this is purely up to them. Do have a thought about it.

Triumph bike is like printer, the machine is cheap but parts are expensive.

Triumphs have quite a good community and even parent company support for self maintenance. More so than Ducati & bmw.

Owners could subscribe to the official triumph technical service manual as a paid service that's open for everyone.
Access to dealer technical manual that is usually limited to dealer network for other brands.


And for dtc check, fault code correction, service reminder reset and some other basic ECU config can be done through this software.

Triumphs tho it's marketed as a premium brand, most of the engine consumables are designed around generic parts that is used by Honda, kawasaki, Suzuki and other jap parts.
Generic oil filter like those used by kawasaki and honda
Generic spark plug size like those used by versys and Honda cb

Quite cheap to run.

Conti bikes is always a bit more expensive than Japanese bike to run and maintain.
But my God they are much nicer to ride and be on compared to japs.

Go for a test ride and see if they're worth the extra. I find that there's just no competition in jap midweight adventure bike to conti. But for Cafe racer might be different.

The Honda CB650 is probably a direct competitor for the trident.
For outside servicing you can try and refer to rawtech bikewerks. A very popular mechanic for triumph, but he handle mostly tigers. Doesn't hurt to ask.

other brands' workshop manual is available for one time purchase.

western bikers complain a lot bout triumph's need to subcribe, cos they need to pay, then cant grab it all , cos they prefer to print out the manual... n refer to b+w

y make ppl's life susah?
every time wana check some stuff.. pay pay...$$$



This post has been edited by basilisk: Aug 23 2022, 02:07 PM

That one need to ask Datuk Malique....

The first 4 service is now free for both parts & labour (1000km break-in service, 10000km service, 20000km major service & 30000km service). Wife just clarified this with Ikhwan Hadee at Triumph.

From my experience owning a Triumph, this is actually worth a lot of money (RM3000 at least).

In case anyone's interested.



This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Dec 10 2023, 07:42 PM

My major service cost (Triumph Tiger 850) at Fast Bikes:

Own engine oil
Own oil filter (Triumph ori RM88)
Own drain plug crush washer (RM10)
Own spark plugs (CR9EK x3 RM79)
Own cam seals (Triumph ori x6 RM252)
Own brake fluid (Mannol 3002 DOT4 Synthetic RM19)
Own drop-in K&N filter (forgot how much I paid for it, RM350 incl shipping I think. Original Triumph paper filter is RM250, so the K&N will automatically pay for itself at the next major service)


Quoted labour charge for major service RM425.
Misc parts (cam cover seal, gaskets, o-rings, but new shims not included) RM340.


Since they still keep stock of the original Triumph HD4X HOAT radiator coolant, I'm asking them to do a coolant change as well. That's gonna be extra. Actually, coolant change isn't due until 30,000km, but I just want fuss-free riding & commuting until I hit 50,000km. Just oil & filter changes until then.

Brake fluid needs to be changed as per schedule. My front pads are now down to 25% after 22000km. New Brembo 07BB37LA sintered pads for both front Stylema calipers come up to RM450 incl shipping, will change after I pass the 25000km mark together with the tyres. Thinking to mount the new Michelin Road 6s. With my chain oiler keeping the chain lubed every week, I expect the chain & sprockets to last until 50,000km. Will also add HEL braided brake lines at that point, plus the forks will need to be serviced too by then (fresh oil & new seals). So the next major expense will be at the 50,000km mark, which is a good 2.5 - 3 years from now.



Overall, the bike has been pretty much problem-free since I bought it new in Q4 of 2021. I mostly use the bike to commute to work and touring trips with the wife every now and then. Only 3 small niggles so far - squealing rear brake (stone debris jammed in the rear brakepad), engine warning light came on briefly 3 weeks ago (water fouling the O2 sensor, no biggie) and the steering head may now need a little tightening (handlebar shimmy at low speed when hands-off, not noticeable with hands on the bars).

In comparison, my wife's CFmoto 700 CLX which is near the very end of its warranty at 20,000km has had its O2 sensor replaced after several trips to Mforce (error code showed up), plus 2 weeks ago it mysteriously died without warning and left her stranded on her way to work. Thank goodness for Allianz Road Warrior. Bike refuses to even crank since, just clicking sounds but no crank - we suspect it has something to do with the ignition relay or worse. Mforce had the bike sent to Penang for dunno how long coz they can't figure it out, so we're looking around for a replacement bike since it's too fucking tiresome having to deal with Mforce which is only open on weekdays and strictly during office hours.

So far the Trident is at the top of the list coz the CB650R continues to be plagued with stock problems until mid next year and the upcoming 2024 model arriving end of next year will no longer be priced competitively (Honda privilege, plus the unnecessary expense of that e-clutch bullshit). New SV650 stock has arrived, but it's kinda hard to justify coughing up RM39k for a bike that is way too long in the tooth and the wife found the wooden plank seat uncomfortable for her chinese arse. The GSX8S trades blows with the Trident esp with the current RM5k discount off the list price (RM50k), but ultimately we find that 3-year zero cost maintenance package of the Triumph too damn hard to ignore given that my wife will be racking up mileage like fucking crazy (Hulu Kelang - Pulau Indah commute).








This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Dec 17 2023, 12:10 AM

Wah triumph allows you to bring in your own spares and oils and still maintain the warranty? Many regular workshops refuse if you bring your own stuff, quite surprised the SC has no problems with it.

Sad to hear your wife's experience of owning the cfmoto, I used to consider the cfmoto as well but luckily did not go down that road. Cb650r 2023 model have ready stock at certain outlets iinm but not sure if they still have. Few weeks back I saw some branches advertising.

But yeah the trident is a good bike logically, riding it the engine is super smooth as well but my only gripe is the engine could benefit from a higher redline by at least 2000rpm. You hit the limiter so abruptly as the power is still climbing all the way at the top without falling.

Except for the first 1000km service (which was free coz I got a RM500 voucher when I bought my bike), I have always brought my own engine oil to Fast Bikes. Which is why I keep going back to them, esp now that my warranty has expired. I dunno about Goh Brothers though.

One thing to remember is that with the new Triumph models post 2021, you can no longer reset the service reminder (spanner icon) yourself... unless you buy a very specific Bluetooth OBD dongle and pay $30 yearly for the TuneECU app. You have to go back to the dealership to get rid of it, even when out of warranty. I have no issue with it though, coz it's reassuring to know that only trained people touch my bike and they put genuine stuff in it.

The Trident triple will never be the screamer that the CB650R inline 4 is. It's just physics. I used to own a 400cc inline 4 back in the day and that thing just had to the thrashed above 6000-7000rpm all the time, because the nature of inline 4 is that its power is almost always heaped at the top half of the RPM range. If you like high-revving engines and like to squeeze every last horse out of the engine when you ride, this one's for you.

The Trident is a little different. If you compare the dyno charts below (rear wheel hp & torque, unlike the manufacturers' spec sheet numbers that are measured at the crank), the biggest diff is in the fact that the Trident's triple lets you access almost 100% of its torque from 4000rpm onwards. The slight hole at 5000rpm is probably to meet emission requirements. The CB650R only hits 88% of its torque at 5000rpm, with a bigger hole at 6000rpm before matching the Triumph in power and torque at 7500rpm. Its horsepower advantage over the Triumph only comes after 8500rpm.

With the Triumph giving easier access to its full potential, it suits my wife for the kind of riding that she does. It might not suit you though, if you enjoy thrashing a screamer down the road when you ride. But that's as far as we're able to compare, because a CB650R demo bike simply doesn't exist.

If you're willing to take the Honda's premium pricing, you might also consider the GSX8S with its introductory discount. No replacement for displacement! But then, it isn't a screamer either with its 270-deg crank parallel twin... but from what I hear it's a fun torque monster. And, knowing Suzuki, it'll probably stay current for the next 6 years before they introduce an improved model lol. The only other option for you is then the Z900 non-SE at RM44k which represents a ridiculous amount of bang for your buck. If you want screaming performance, it blows every fucking thing in that price range right out of the water.


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Well I'm not exactly shopping for a bike since I already bought my Katana haha. Maintenance wise I just go with their standard service package inclusive of original Ecstar R9000 Japan oil as it isn't too expensive.



But why I say the Trident could benefit from an increased redline is if you look at the dyno chart, all the way at the end the HP is still increasing, meaning if the engine can handle just another 1000-2000rpm, the power would still continue increasing before it starts falling. Look at the Cb650r dyno and the hp had already started falling 500-1000rpm before the redline.

Honestly you will rarely request for full torque at such a low rpm so even 80% of the full torque is still aplenty available. I actually managed to get a test rode on the Cb650r last year after I placed a booking on the Cb650r. Was very fun to ride, but the exhaust is pretty muted and the bike feels quite small for me.

Can't say for sure, to be honest. The CB650R goes all the way to 12000RPM (being an inline 4 with a shorter strike, it's probably eager and able to), but in reality there's nothing left to give past 10,000rpm coz the horses trot downhill from there. It might be the same for the Trident, and if it too goes downhill past 10000rpm then that might be a good place to place the limiter to avoid overstressing the engine.

That said, though, the 675 which the Trident's 660 engine is based on does go all the way up to 14000rpm, peaking at around 108 horses @ 12500rpm. So in all likelihood, the Trident's cap at 10000rpm could also be intentional so as not to encroach into the Street Triple territory. Product differentiation they call it. Lol. They did the same trick to the Tiger 850 to differentiate it from the Tiger 900. Exact same engine, but the ECU is castrated past 7500rpm where the 900 ekes out another 10 ponies from there to the 10000rpm redline. Honestly I don't know of anyone who habitually rides their middleweight ADV by bouncing it off the limiter, though.

Your service intervals are interesting. Why is it due for service every 3 months? If you go by mileage instead, will it void the warranty?

This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Dec 29 2023, 01:05 AM

Even if the hp drops by 10%, you're still accelerating faster at the lower gear than if you were to upshift earlier due to torque multiplication to the wheels by the gearing.

The service interval of every 3 months is just bullshit. I argued with the service agent and said the warranty booklet says the warranty is valid as long as the bike is serviced as per the user's manual, and the user's manual says to service every 6000km or 1 year. So in the end I managed to get them to set the service reminder at 1 year instead of 3 months and if I do need warranty and they want to reject it for not servicing every 3 months I'll just show them the manual.

Getting you to service every 3 months is just a cash grab by the dealers. Imagine doing valve clearance every year eventhough your bike is only at 6000km. Ridiculous! Honda BW also recommends 5000km service interval last I spoke to them when their manual recommends 10k km if I'm not mistaken. But at least Suzuki service follows the book's maintenance schedule on items to perform, just the time between service they butchered.

What's really interesting though is according to the service agent, the major service price is inclusive of valve clearance check. The labour seems too cheap to include a valve clearance check but the SA said the displayed price on the list is the final price I have to pay so.... We'll see in 4 years of that's really true.

Fast Bikes charged RM425 in labour for my major service which includes the VC, although the cost of the gaskets etc ended up doubling that number. Usually manufacturers would issue a service kit for major service jobs that includes all the various gaskets, seals and other knick-knacks required to do the job properly, so you might want to ask them if there are parts involved or do they skimp on these things (the "boleh pakai lagi" approach).

Eh not bad also wo the charges for vc. I think many shops outside charges like rm500-1k for vc? Yeah will ask the sc on my next visit if that price includes the gaskets and stuff. But last I asked them they said The displayed price is the exact price I will be paying so....

Btw, the 8S discount is 10k. Possibly until the end of the month. 42k OTR. Better be quick if interested.

Just spoke to Adrian@Premium sportscycle Sunway this afternoon.