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Lester1987
post Aug 4 2022, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(wringle.wringle @ Aug 4 2022, 09:23 AM)
Congrats...

Singapore more cost effective to work from home especially for those under regional or Corp ..because office rental not cheap

Best work from home in jb ... then go sg when required

Pay sg local income tax and keep your sg there ...
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you are not supposed to and illegal to do that. if you generating your productivity in Malaysia, you need to pay Malaysia tax..
i was working from home during MCO period. syukur LHDN prihatin and waived all the taxes for the productivity i generate in Malaysia during that period.

Now border is opened, your daily travel needs to resume. My work can perform remotely (as i already did it for more than 2 years) but i still do my daily travel.
If LHDN finds out and wants to be anal, you will be in deep shyt...

There was once a minister said "passport is a privileged and not an entitlement". All they have to do is remove this privileged for you and you are screwed.
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post Aug 4 2022, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Aug 4 2022, 10:17 AM)
Just make sure you are getting paid at Singapore MARKET RATE. Don't convert - biggest mistake for new timers
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Isn't that a win win?
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post Aug 4 2022, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Ashraf Farid @ Aug 4 2022, 10:26 AM)
Isn't that a win win?
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When market rate there is $10k but you got offer for $5k, you don't celebrate your RM15k thinking it's very high. You just kena low ball
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post Aug 4 2022, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(ja836kyau @ Aug 4 2022, 10:02 AM)
Not true.

I have a few friends who came back during Covid and was offered good pay by Singapore companies (ex-employers).

Good pay meaning higher than Malaysia but lower than Singapore.

Anyway, all happy because every year sure have free pay increment due to depreciation of RM.
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Good for your friend.
I would not say your friend experience is "not true".

I know my experience is true. They just want to exploit cheap labour.
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post Aug 4 2022, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(wringle.wringle @ Aug 4 2022, 10:38 AM)
Enjoy paying sg income tax... haha

anyway apart from during mco... mostly won't be in msia or sg for > 184 days
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as long as you step foot in malaysia even for 1 min, its calculated as a day. The 300k daily traveler spend more than 300 days in Malaysia. We also spend more than 200 days in SG.
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post Aug 4 2022, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Ashraf Farid @ Aug 4 2022, 10:10 AM)
Thanks, just a low level writer position for an online publication
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What you write about?
ja836kyau
post Aug 4 2022, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Aug 4 2022, 10:33 AM)
When market rate there is $10k but you got offer for $5k, you don't celebrate your RM15k thinking it's very high. You just kena low ball
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What happen if they find another Malaysian who can accept RM15k because Malaysia market rate is RM10k?
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post Aug 4 2022, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(wringle.wringle @ Aug 4 2022, 10:46 AM)
Hah. Oic... you don't understand the taxes
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i think i studied this extensively during MCO and when the border open to understand how a country calculate the tax resident status of an individual..
perhaps you can explain more on your understanding.
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post Aug 4 2022, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(ja836kyau @ Aug 4 2022, 10:59 AM)
What happen if they find another Malaysian who can accept RM15k because Malaysia market rate is RM10k?
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That just shows that fella is naive. You have bear the high living cost in SG on your own

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QUOTE(wringle.wringle @ Aug 4 2022, 10:38 AM)
Enjoy paying sg income tax... haha

anyway apart from during mco... mostly won't be in msia or sg for > 184 days
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SG income tax is one of the lowest in this region.
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post Aug 4 2022, 11:10 AM

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ma sis also work the same way.

wfh permanently.
but must join the teams meeting everyday.
singapore advertisement company
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post Aug 4 2022, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Aug 4 2022, 11:03 AM)
That just shows that fella is naive. You have bear the high living cost in SG on your own
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We are talking about Malaysians working remotely for Singapore, ie staying in Malaysia.
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post Aug 4 2022, 11:23 AM

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Congrats, become banggala for SG companies
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post Aug 4 2022, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(ja836kyau @ Aug 4 2022, 11:20 AM)
We are talking about Malaysians working remotely for Singapore, ie staying in Malaysia.
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You will need to enter SG from time to time to satisfy Singapore tax requirement. Otherwise you kena 15% tax

M'sia try to implement taxation on oversea income brought home starting this year but was last minute abolised. I won't be surprise if they bring up this law again

Also there's implication to SG company that employ such worker. They are deemed to outsource their job overseas. So company will pay different corporate tax rate then they are found to do so...

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post Aug 4 2022, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(wringle.wringle @ Aug 4 2022, 11:26 AM)
You think the lhdn officer so baik.hati and prihatin? 😄

They will tax you if possible but they cannot ...

That's why msia intro law on tax money earned oversea and transfer bank to msia ...
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There are tax treaty for income derive outside malaysia doesn't need to pay local income tax if we have paid the foreign tax . That's why i said we cannot generate our productivity in Malaysia and earn SGD.
The law you mentioned were postponed to 2026. I went and read thru all those when they wanted to introduce this law in Jan 2022. went as far as consulting a tax agent as well. Until 2026 there is no issue transfering money back.

The problem now is if the productivity is generated in Malaysia and you are employed as a SG headcount. both your employer and the employee can be fine by Malaysia gov.

As for TS case, hope that he gets paid in RM with SGD convert instead of getting SGD and trying to do illegal stuff. My friend gets a job in SG pre-covid that wfh. Due to this tax issue, the company offered to pay her via an agency in Malaysia the same rate she got paid in SGD under Malaysia payroll.
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QUOTE(Ashraf Farid @ Aug 4 2022, 09:17 AM)
I just got offered a good deal.

Any ktards here got exp with this arrangement? Anything esp bad?

Thanks!
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Pay is SGD or MYR?
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post Aug 4 2022, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Ashraf Farid @ Aug 4 2022, 09:17 AM)
I just got offered a good deal.

Any ktards here got exp with this arrangement? Anything esp bad?

Thanks!
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my ex job was WFH all the while since even during pandemic.. my current also same.. happy about it.... more flexible.... WFH i love it!!
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post May 9 2024, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Aug 4 2022, 10:17 AM)
Just make sure you are getting paid at Singapore MARKET RATE. Don't convert - biggest mistake for new timers
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Whats the reason behind dont convert? From contract to full time?
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post May 9 2024, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Aug 4 2022, 09:48 AM)
After covid i got 3 such offers.

All working remotely for Singapore companies.

Rejected. pay scale in accordance to malaysia market.

It is just a new way for them to exploit cheap labour.
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Ok what

Work at home

Nice and dandy
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post May 9 2024, 03:50 PM

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