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 Perodua Ativa Original Betamek HU, Jailbreak or sideload AA and CarPlay

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post Jul 26 2022, 12:33 AM, updated 3y ago

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Perodua Ativa Original Headunit

Manufacturer: Betamek
Model: LV0001 (based on the E-manual) or D55L (More info in description)
Operating System: Linux (Version Unkown) (More info in description)
CPU and RAM: ARM ??? (unknown)

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Some ATIVA users on FB managed to find out some secret hidden menus on the ori HU by tapping somewhere in the setting menu

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The menus are mostly in Chinese and used for testing purposes. Seems like the firmware is developed by ZhongHong (China Company that used to cooperate with Betamek)

For the OS part, I have dig inside the log file of the Carbit Link on my phone (aka Smartlink), then I found out that the ori HU is stated as model D55L and Linux OS
Can't track back the log file now because it is deleted cry.gif

----------------------------------- That's all for everything I know about the HU now -----------------------------------------------

The Ativa original HU is actually looking good (floating screen unlike Toyota's CRT) and quite smooth to use as it uses capacitive touchscreen instead of resistive used on Myvi G3 2017-2020 or older and other P2 car
Performance wise I think is acceptable too (it does support up to 720p H.264 playback and has Apple MFI certificate)

However, the only drawback is the ori HU doesn't have AA or CP and only comes with Perodua Smartlink which is too bad and unstable mad.gif .
Ori HU doesn't have built in navigation too like previous P2 WINCE headunit which makes it impossible to sideload Autokit app to sd card and use AA or CP

** The reason that didn't change to others are Android HU (laggy + unstable) and Japan brand, Pioneer and Sony (too expensive), and also warranty

SO,
Does anyone know how to jailbreak or sideload the ori HU for running Android Auto or Apple CarPlay like MazdaTweak ???

Welcome everyone to share your thoughts below in the comments.
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post Jul 26 2022, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jul 26 2022, 12:57 AM)
Cheaper to buy a new android head unit
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Ya but Android HU are too many. Price from RM200 to 2000. Some of it are really good but others are just laggy cheap electronic rubbish.

Moreover android HU can't use the ori USB and HDMI ports which kind of waste.
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post Jul 26 2022, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(812799 @ Jul 26 2022, 06:22 PM)
how do you make comparison from 200 to 2000, any link or review website, always see advertised as 4xx to 8xx but hard to compare also.

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For me, I am not sure but mostly just look on the specs of the HU.
Most of the HU uses RK or allwinner chip and different volume of RAM. Those specs are like android TV box or tablet. So, you can imagine how's the performance will be like based on its SoC and RAM.

Some of the firmware is loaded with Google Play and GMS too which is too heavy and useless for a HU (at least for me). While, low end HU comes with bloatware and lousy UI which makes the whole system very bad.

I saw Lazada, Shopee can get cheap android HU like T3L or xxx china made HU for 200++ .
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post Jul 26 2022, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jul 26 2022, 06:41 PM)
compare and test before buying. wont need to go to 2000. few hundred bucks already have quite decent and better than Betamak one.
many can still use  back USB and HDMI port. can be connected.
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I see.

If possible, i still prefer the ori HU with AA or CP lah 🤣 but anyway thanks for your reply and suggestions.

Any HU recommendations that support those USB and HDMI port with Ativa ? Will consider it 😉


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post Jul 27 2022, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Jul 27 2022, 07:12 AM)
i wonder toyota raize hu better than betamek ?
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Japan Raize HU using floating screen from Pioneer with AA and CP but others like Singapore specs are just 2 din HU with casing.

Indonesia specs seems like floating screen too ( not sure about the manufacturer)

IMO, as got AA and CP with floating screen, definitely better than Betamek

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post Jul 27 2022, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jul 27 2022, 10:28 AM)
whats the point when FM frequency is not suitable for MY use?
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Indonesia FM frequency suits with Malaysia FM frequency right ?
Only Japan frequency not suitable
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post Jul 27 2022, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Jul 27 2022, 10:39 AM)
indon got t.raize & d.rocky. can choose their hu
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Really rare to see those ori HU on market
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post Aug 14 2022, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(DoomGuard @ Aug 8 2022, 04:31 PM)
i wonder can we use new alza HU and swap with ativa HU?
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I think it should be fine as long as you can get the Alza AV's HU just the HDMI wont work I guess

BTW, changing HU will void warranty shocking.gif

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post Sep 16 2022, 03:39 PM

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Just figure out that the HU will come out mouse cursor if you plug in mouse and keyboard when booting into startup.

It will freeze the menu and turn into blank screen just the mouse cursor moving.
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post Sep 16 2022, 03:42 PM

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Seems like Betamek also claim that this HU support AA and CP. Just Perodua disable it
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post Sep 17 2022, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Sep 17 2022, 02:24 PM)
very cool finding bro.
car play, aa was disable to avoid conflict between toyota
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Raize will not import to M'sia right

Don't know is it possible for Perodua to unlock the AA and CP in future
Or we can unlock it ourself under engineering mode ???

Alza already got Carplay and 360, but ativa only got useless Smart link.....
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post Apr 9 2023, 11:17 AM

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Tech specs about the Betamek player:

Processor: Telechips TCC8974 (CPU: ARM Cortex A7 Dual Core@1Ghz GPU: Mali 400-MP2)
PMIC: Telechips TCC5027
ROM: Kioxia TC58NVG2S0HTA00 4Gb NAND (512MB)
RAM: Samsung K4B2G1646F-BYMA 2Gb DDR3 x2 (512MB)
MCU: Freescale FS32K144UAVLL
PA IC: Toshiba TCB001HQ (Max 45W x 4Channel)
BT: FLC-BTMDC732 (Should be)

Seems like the TCC8974 is using the same as Kenwood DDX9018DABS and Hyundai/Kia Gen5 Android HU
The SOC also supports Linux and Android 4.4 - 6.0

Image credits goes to 劲劲 from Perodua Ativa Facebook
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post May 6 2023, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(aminpro @ Apr 21 2023, 10:44 PM)
Is anyone willing to share how to get to the service menu?
I see there is a host and device mode. Thinking that maybe I can put it into device mode and start
probing the Linux file structure and even make a dump of the OS.
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Here you go. Credit goes to Shaun Ng from Ativa Facebook Group.

I actually tried to connect the HU with my laptop through USB male to male. The Device Manager was detecting something but there is no driver to control the HU (maybe like ADB or something missing)

Hopefully you can make it. Looking forward to ur reply.


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post May 6 2023, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(ChongHan90 @ Apr 28 2023, 12:10 PM)
Anyone tried carlinkit box? Any specific device that can turn it to android auto?
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Carlinkit only support android or wince...
Ativa HU is Linux so cannot support
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post May 22 2023, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(aminpro @ May 17 2023, 05:58 AM)
Tried plugging into the front USB port with OTG on device mode instead of host. Got nothing interesting.
Suspect that the USB port is not the one on the front but via a debug pad or unsoldered USB port that is used for testing and loading in the factory.

Unfortunately, I don't have an extra head unit. Perhaps when I change mine to a 3rd party Eonon head unit, I'll take the stock one and hook it up to a power supply and reverse it. Not sure when I'll change mine.
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I tried to look for TTL or any serial port on the mainboard but also no result....

However, I saw someone on Github using USB Ethernet adapter to establish ssh server with Linux HU and gain root access.
If you have USB Ethernet Adapter, maybe you can try and see...

Here's the Github link
github.com/ea/bosch_headunit_root


 

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