Last week, the marketing director and I interviewed a young girl who was 01'. She asked for RM4k a month, and I said you were only worth 3k, but her answer let me speechless but justified.

The girl's education background is not bad, just graduated from a university, Degree in marketing. At first glance, this candidate's resume is a sight to behold. She has not been idle during her time at university, with a variety of club activities and extra-curricular internships and part-time jobs.

The position she applied for was a digital marketing specialist. After ten minutes of interview and communication, the marketing director was supposed to be very impressed with her and suddenly asked about her expected salary and she said confidently, "My expected salary is 4k per month."

I have to give her asnwer a thumbs up from the bottom of my heart. She said, "Salary represents the market value of a person, my salary is not set by your company, it is set by the market. Just because I've just graduated from university doesn't mean I don't have work experience. As you can see from my resume, when I was a year 1, I started using my long sem break to do internships and part-time jobs, all were related to the requirements. At university, I organised various club activities & all were successful. So, in total, I have more than two years of experience in digital marketing and event planning and organisation. I am familiar with a variety of social media platform: Tiktok, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube, and I am familiar with hot topics on the Internet. I independently run my own social account with over 10k followers. I am absolutely qualified for the requirements of your company. I have done research and in the market, digital marketing talents with my kind of experience earn at least 4k per month. Furhtermore, age is not a factor in measuring the market value of a talent, it is all about his experience and skills!"

After hearing these words from the young girl, the marketing director showed a satisfied smile. After the interview, the marketing director assigned her a job in digital marketing and if she did a good job, she would be offered a salary of 4K per month. The young girl will officially join the team next week.

Share my point of view:
When interviewing, confidently say your salary expectations, do not care about the salary set for you by HR. However, you need to be well prepared. List all your work achievements that demonstrate your extensive experience and excellent skills; find out what the market rate of pay is for the position you are applying for; and find out what the industry rate of pay is for the company you are applying for. In short, what you can bring to the company and what makes you more outstanding than others.

And... Connections! Check comment to know what is the current market value of your skills & qualifications!

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TLDR.

If I were hiring for a Digital Marketing position and the girl is a fresh grad, but runs her own Onlyfans channel with a thousand subscribers, I'd hire her on the spot.

marketing job, art based, but if u gt quantitative result to prove then can demand

ahh cehhh. marketing people are all about talking kok.

interview time talk until can fly. wait la see her actual work result.

i mean actual work. not her talking while actual work.

This post has been edited by NEP1971: Jul 25 2022, 12:48 PM

Good answer and justification. I would agree with probation period.

panjang nya.

If she ran an only fans channel, she'd be a millionaire and wouldn't have to attend the interview.

so... with 10k follower, is she considered as influencer? ahhahaha

This post has been edited by siew14: Jul 25 2022, 12:50 PM

Linkedin topkek le tu

LinkedIn must tag setarpucki

Many sales come interview saying sky is the limit.

Meanwhile on actual role kerja Macam sial.

Can’t even convince and worst fruity attitude is that it’s dugaan. Takdir can’t sell. Kek

What’s so surprising about fresh grad getting 4k? With the right skills and right industry can easily get

I wouldnt say its a cool story lar but that reasoning she give is close to a motherhood statement liao


The girl's education background is not bad, just graduated from a university, Degree in marketing. At first glance, this candidate's resume is a sight to behold. She has not been idle during her time at university, with a variety of club activities and extra-curricular internships and part-time jobs.

The position she applied for was a digital marketing specialist. After ten minutes of interview and communication, the marketing director was supposed to be very impressed with her and suddenly asked about her expected salary and she said confidently, "My expected salary is 4k per month."

You think you the only one lass that dont idle? You see how many folks out there , STEM graduates that interns when studying, work gigs as cashiers then intern again after graduating while waiting to find a job that suits their background? Dont tell me thats the secret sauce man.

Starbucki your BS meter at what level?

This post has been edited by 9m2w: Jul 25 2022, 12:54 PM

well, dont look down on digital marketing. you give this job to ktard unkers here and see if they can do a good job or not?

if she has thousands of OF followers she wont need your bloody 4k lol

many companies still based on budget.....

Yes. I can't get 1000 followers

The BS part is not the package actually, the reasoning. Macam motherhood statement liao. Work hard and i got it. Shit lar you so do 99% of the ppl that didnt get it

she did say that her internship was related to her work (I assume its marketing). PRobably more convincing if she can provide a portfolio and proof of her previous socmed efforts in marketing and club organizing events.

starbucki

confirm this girl will leave by end of next year...

Next you will see a MD assigning her a job under his table

"I independently run my own social account with over 10k followers"

these days, hire 2ppl, give then 3ppl equivalent of celeri, to perform tasks of 4ppl

good luck to her working until 1.30am

p/s: then boss wasap her 1.45am say tmr 8am send repork

This post has been edited by alexkos: Jul 25 2022, 01:01 PM

her track record probably would be instagram with 10k followers

Can you pm your social account?

unker goyang telur call u ah Starbucki

now want 4k after grad just go management trainee, they pay up to 5k for. fresh grad with no experience
its free money and you get to rotate around all dpt to soak up all the exp
then at the end of the contract you get to choose which dpt you want to be placed in
no need to do all these garbage specialization
want to climb corp ladder then just do this
the first 5 years at the start of your career you already get more than your peers. if you are smart enough to get into management trainee then you should be smart enough to plan your route and utilize the head start to not get left behind
inb4 my specialization will make me 100x more after 5 years. ok buddy

Aiya, that one of coz need to write flowery bs a bit la. If not the story will be so boring who will read.

not enough, many kids here age can easily get more. MOre relevant would be like history trail of events in her FB or other socmed of the activities and events she was involved in that demonstrated leadership and networking ability.

If she has all the skills, know how.. with 10k follower

Why Couldn’t she create content to incentivise herself through follower

Maybe every month she could have earn rm10k

Planning and execution does not equal to result.. $$

This post has been edited by cuddlybubblyteddy: Jul 25 2022, 01:01 PM

i copy paste ts punya statement, bukan i ada 10k follower

ok after all this bullshit..

gambar mana???

10k followers can’t make 4k / mth.
Market really bad nowaday

Which the poster wont cos it will breach confidentiality. Which conveniently will leave the status of this story up in the air with regards to its authenticity. Anyway not salty about the girl, good for her actually but these kinda posts i'm wary because the general vibe is the poster is out to up their likes rather then give some limelight to the person they're posting about.

Yup true that. Else no like, no comment for better reach

Prove it. Prove that u are worth 4k. Also, I find it strange that he can remember word for word or everything that she says.


Also, mana sos??

starbucki calling resident Unker gib some view

What a waste, ade substance. 4k is about right but not RM

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jul 25 2022, 01:09 PM

Talkok only. Cool storie.

ayam not impressed by her also. full of hot air and motherhood statements indeed. cainis call this teeth sharp mouth. if she doesnt perform and tries to fire her, will face hell on earth with this kind of ppl. the interviewer so naive lol

Poster fault, the interviewee if exist didnt post this

If anything the story may not be so compelling and the secret sauce she was hired doesnt make a good feel good story on LI

what if the company budget is only 3k and that candidate still insist on 4k salary?

you sure get feedback for being over qualify

cool setory je la this kind of setories a dime a dozen

sohems who post these kind of setories just want to be populist and get Likes and Shares

as if that will feed his family lol

can share her 10k followers account

yea the typical comeback setory or gip-ppl-a-chance-coz-you-neber-know-their-struggles kinda setory

edit - btw the semicon pakcik jobless again and admittedly lives in a single bed partitioned rental. so much for a career coach who cant even manage his own career lol

This post has been edited by Starbucki: Jul 25 2022, 01:18 PM

10k followers

That's low for DMS

Ouch. Contract ended?

Must be boob size that help her reach 4k

sounds abrupt. seems to catch his viewers by surprise. hence very likely he was terminated as they found him to be just full of hot air.

Cb this kind of setori also need to post linkedin ka

Cool story bro

Well all the best to him

And well his last post is kinda ironic

You get what you pay for.....

digital marketing for her own personal and corporate is 2 different sector wor, amoi can post pretty, tiktok dance video on her personal but corporate cannot apply the same.

Hmm nowadays top tier fresh grad 4k liao ah?

maybe for lengnui only

HAHAHAHAHA, linkedin and their rubbish cool stories.

If she really did have the presence of mind, confidence and eloquence as descrived, then 4K is LOW.

But we all know that this is sembang Kari LinkedIn

and also request for a free subscription for life...

Generally your points are true, but a few things if people are trying to use similar approach.


Your salary is set by the company, and the company is part of the market. Just because average salary with similar experience "can" get you a certain range, doesn't mean you are also worth the same. The average market value is a guideline, and if you place yourself at the same average, you're saying "I'm average". If you truly believe your value, you would bid higher than the average.


Personally I wouldn't put much weight into school activities. Better than nothing, but doesn't really tell you much. Many people have "organized" events in school, but when you dig into what they actually did, was practically nothing. There will be a few that did the heavy lifting, but many were just tagging along to have glamour of the organizing committee. Even those who did most of the work, its miniscule work compared to anything in a real company.


For a digital marketer, that's not that impressive. Then you have to question also, whether those followers were bought or not.


This would have been the biggest red flag to me. Here, her age is actually a factor, a factor in her favour. She is young, which means she's more in-tune with trends (which she did mention). Rather than spin it in her favor, she gave a pretty standard response, which makes her entire "speech" feel rehearsed and contrived.

That's a short sighted way of looking at it.

It's called platforming, and you will need to transition in order to have a stronger base. With Onlyfans, she is the product. And it is an unstable product because competition is high and you could easily lose your entire subscriber base next month if weather conditions are not in your favour.

So you use your Onlyfans product and operations to translate it into a more stable career where you market a more STABLE PRODUCT. That stability is what affects longevity. Eventually, you want to be making your money by managing other more table products, or managing other Onlyfans providers so you can easily switch your product offerring.

that advice is good for fresh grad but for experienced hires, where the heck do i find the market rate?
if you google market salary for someone with 10 years work experience, you will get a myriad of salaries from astonishingly low to crazy high. the only real reference point is my own current salary.

only 2 keys i see.
must be pretty


This post has been edited by cempedaklife: Jul 25 2022, 02:17 PM

Sembang kencang wktu interview.. Biasa la tu..

A word of caution especially those hiring those Millennials. Most of them tok kok sing song like in /k. All talk no substance.

this only works if you are in Marketing, which you can BS all the way to the moon.

All this salary thingy is highly subject, there are too many variables to quantify - work experience, values/past contributions, qualification/skill set, soft skills, connections. I doubt HR even know how to quantify these values (reasonable/ appropriate?)
Hence, the easiest & laziest way is to just follow the market rate as reference point + a bit % increment, which not necessarily justify the candidate's true net worth (underpay or overpay). Also, I'm sure HR will not question the market rate as well whether is it still reasonable, anything just taichi back to the so called "market"

4k salary need to beg so long?

lol.

looks guys, we have a hardcore expert here.

everyone is director nowadays, marketing director to interview freshie? so damn free