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 Will you think the property market will fall soon?, will the landed property fall in 2024?

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post Jun 5 2023, 10:51 PM

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looks like the market not tat hot alr
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post Jul 6 2023, 09:55 AM

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the property fall or not fall now?
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post Jul 18 2023, 02:43 PM

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really cannt c any fall now, even condo also no fall
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post Jul 20 2023, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 20 2023, 03:07 PM)
Faith that interest rates would stay low forever fostered a “fool’s paradise,” according to former Bank of England boss Mervyn King. Nowhere is this more obvious than in the unraveling of the global real estate boom, which is now turning into bust as prices start to fall around the world. Fair enough: After so much speculation and overvaluation amid an undersupply of new homes, a healthy correction is exactly what a lot of societies need.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/...l-prove-painful

A recent deal offers a glimpse into what distressed sales can get. The Goldin Financial Global Centre sold for HK$5.6 billion to investment firms after two years of trying, way shy of its estimated value of as much as HK$16.5 billion.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...they-can-t-sell

SHANGHAI -- Prices for existing homes in China are tumbling even in major cities as an influx of sellers and a dearth of buyers undermine the once-unquestioned assumption that the market would only keep growing.

Zhang Li (not her real name), an employee at a Shanghai law office, experienced this downturn firsthand. Eyeing a move into a larger home for her four- and 10-year-old daughters, she put her Shanghai apartment up for sale last August for 4.98 million yuan ($690,000).

Though the 2004 property is on the old side, it sits in a good location a half-hour drive from Hongqiao International Airport and the major railway station nearby.

But the apartment failed to attract buyers. At her real estate agency's recommendation, she kept cutting the asking price by between 50,000 yuan and 100,000 yuan at a time. By the time a prospective buyer emerged in May, it had fallen to 4.46 million yuan.

"It finally sold after I took 520,000 yuan off the initial price," Zhang said. That forced her to borrow more on the mortgage for her new home.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Markets/Pr...sellers-rush-in
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that is different country, i dont think malaysia will allow high interest rate
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post Jul 21 2023, 09:56 AM

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lets talk about landed...will it fall?those prime area...
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post Jul 22 2023, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jul 21 2023, 08:57 AM)
NEW property price will not fall.
Sub-sale yes.
Like car, once you buy, the value drops ... esp condos.

If you buy for own stay it does not matter, but if you think to flip then you will regret.

Even rental market is bad as it is oversupply now.

Actually if you have extra properties, better sell it (since bank charging you  5%) then put the money in FD/dividend stock, else then you go to rent instead ... you will earn ... that is how bad.
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But we focus n discuss on prime area and landed house..
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post Jul 23 2023, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(Donchay @ Jul 23 2023, 12:21 PM)
Interesting but define prime area with new landed homes?
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pj,subang jaya,puchong..
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post Jul 25 2023, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 25 2023, 06:32 PM)
Poorperly is illiquid, price doesn't crash like stock, BTC or commodities but takes years to bottom. As most bought with leverage, price stagnant or rise shower than loan interest and expenses incurred is a financial losses.

The reality remains most of those bought post 2013 are likely underwater, and if keep holding, losses is likely to widen in the foreseeable future.
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u must be biten by the property last time
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post Jul 26 2023, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 26 2023, 07:12 AM)
You are wrong.

Poorperly development from acquiring land, designing, applying for development order, planning permission, construction, etc to VP take a few years. Poorperly oversupply could be known a few years in advance but many were blinded by greed.

According to data, there are  currently more home than households in KV. Oversupply will likely takes years to digest.
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eventough what ever u say over supply etc...but those prime area still price increased stable every year..
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so now the property price is up?or down? with all sorts of black swam going around the sky..
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post Dec 12 2023, 09:32 AM

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lock down 2.0?i think no, in future just everyone have to be infected if any new covid variant came out
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post Dec 12 2023, 09:40 AM

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[KUALA LUMPUR] The majority of property agents in Malaysia say they are upbeat about the real estate sector’s outlook for 2024, with many anticipating that residential prices and rentals will increase in the next 12 months.

This was one of the key findings from a new survey by IQI, a global real estate agency network that’s also a member of Malaysia-based technology group Juwai IQI. A total of 203 agents and negotiators took part in the poll that was conducted from Nov 1 to Nov 22.

In a report accompanying the survey findings that was released on Tuesday (Dec 5), IQI noted that nine in 10 respondents (91.1 per cent) would advise a friend to buy a property, with the remaining 8.9 per cent suggesting that people should rent instead.


“The buy–rent ratio reveals strong confidence in the real estate market,” said Kashif Ansari, the co-founder and group chief executive of Juwai IQI who’s also the group CEO of IQI.

He noted that the numbers are nearly as lopsided in Kuala Lumpur and Selangor as they are country-wide, with 88.8 per cent for buying versus 11.2 per cent for renting.

He made the point that agents may recommend buying because they expect significant increases in both sales prices and rents in 2024.



***For those dont want to buy, here is the result for u***
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 4 2023, 05:49 PM)
this country is not sg nor PRC.

When basic car cost RM 1m,  USD 1 > RM 100.

Contemporary history is available for reference, don't need to dream.
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[KUALA LUMPUR] The majority of property agents in Malaysia say they are upbeat about the real estate sector’s outlook for 2024, with many anticipating that residential prices and rentals will increase in the next 12 months.

This was one of the key findings from a new survey by IQI, a global real estate agency network that’s also a member of Malaysia-based technology group Juwai IQI. A total of 203 agents and negotiators took part in the poll that was conducted from Nov 1 to Nov 22.

In a report accompanying the survey findings that was released on Tuesday (Dec 5), IQI noted that nine in 10 respondents (91.1 per cent) would advise a friend to buy a property, with the remaining 8.9 per cent suggesting that people should rent instead.


“The buy–rent ratio reveals strong confidence in the real estate market,” said Kashif Ansari, the co-founder and group chief executive of Juwai IQI who’s also the group CEO of IQI.

He noted that the numbers are nearly as lopsided in Kuala Lumpur and Selangor as they are country-wide, with 88.8 per cent for buying versus 11.2 per cent for renting.

He made the point that agents may recommend buying because they expect significant increases in both sales prices and rents in 2024.
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post Dec 12 2023, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 12 2023, 09:57 AM)
Have you ever hear r.e agents is not upbeat of next year poorperly market?
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then here is the interesting part, u r not optismistic on it...but many new launch in usj selling as hot cakes, and per SQ is 750 ringgit...
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post Dec 12 2023, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(A.B.D. @ Dec 12 2023, 11:48 AM)
Boss, any luck in finding your landed Subang property?

Glenmarie Shah Alam seems like a nice area also for landed and near to PJ
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sure have luck...but very hard to get good deal now..if as per said iceman..if the property that bad...i cant even find a very great price now...sekijap alr rampassssssssssssssss /graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb by the people...so crazyyy
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 12 2023, 02:59 PM)
Not true, just that no point sharing.
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ya...alr 13 years saying property burst la etc...untill now i just saw the price naik and naik shj...so how many years u want to say property burst?30 years? 40 years?
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 12 2023, 03:23 PM)
Until poorperly overhang is reduced substantially, price will remain suppressed.

most of those bought in the last 10 years are underwater.
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give example....
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 12 2023, 03:38 PM)
Take yourself as example.
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QUOTE(cms @ Dec 12 2023, 07:21 PM)
That feller been sprouting nonsense and thinks he's like some oracle.

Let dog fuck lah
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Hahaha...i think he dont have any property...nvm lets the hater goes hate...
If he have a property,then he must a very bad observer if not why so look down to property...
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 12 2023, 10:53 PM)
unless one is realistic, reality is often disappointing.
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dont be so pessimistic...........adui......alot of people last time also say economy down la, property bubble burst for last 10 years...but what happen now? price still up...

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