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 Will you think the property market will fall soon?, will the landed property fall in 2024?

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submergedx
post Aug 28 2022, 11:47 PM

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No it wont, Malaysia property price are dirt cheap. It wont crash.
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post Aug 29 2022, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(scorptim @ Aug 26 2022, 02:32 PM)
After 2008, the next dip is now la. Already dip 20-30% compared to 2015/2016. How much more of a dip you expecting?
Already fall unless you are blind or in denial.
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Depends on what project you bought.
I bought in 2017 and the paper gain are still 20% on to date according the figure from buyer demanding price tag.
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post Aug 29 2022, 12:22 AM

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Fall yes? for some certain goreng unwisely projects. But for overall it wont crash.
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post Aug 29 2022, 12:41 AM

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what fall ? every new project lauch sure the price will increase around 20 - 30 % one.
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post Aug 29 2022, 05:08 AM

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QUOTE(pfizer @ Aug 29 2022, 12:41 AM)
what fall ? every new project lauch sure the price will increase around 20 - 30 % one.
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Price no increase.. only space decrease
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post Aug 29 2022, 07:46 AM

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It won't fall much but most likely it will increase...
Unless u are talking condo apartment type, those are aplenty and most likely fall...
As for landed it will hold steady...
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post Aug 29 2022, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(t3n @ Aug 29 2022, 05:08 AM)
Price no increase.. only space decrease
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Price does increase, space does decrease dramatically that look like a sangkar burung now and the construction method also become cheaper like using pre-fabricated wall at the factory and join the walls at the site.
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post Aug 29 2022, 09:56 AM

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some irresponsible contractors are definitely looking for ways to cut corner to save cost. just be careful. so far no significant drop price on the project i'm eyeing.
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post Aug 29 2022, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Aug 28 2022, 11:47 PM)
No it wont, Malaysia property price are dirt cheap. It wont crash.
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Cheap relative to income, foreign country?

QUOTE(submergedx @ Aug 29 2022, 12:13 AM)
Depends on what project you bought.
I bought in 2017 and the paper gain are still 20% on to date according the figure from buyer demanding price tag.
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20% price change over 5 years may or may not cover loan interest and expenses incurred. besides, transacted price could be significant lower than asking price.

QUOTE(pfizer @ Aug 29 2022, 12:41 AM)
what fall ? every new project lauch sure the price will increase around 20 - 30 % one.
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Similarly, discount, rebate, cash back, etc given by developer.

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post Aug 29 2022, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 29 2022, 10:29 AM)
20% price change over 5 years may or may not cover loan interest and expenses incurred. besides, transacted price could be significant lower than asking price.
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I am not wanting my property to appreciated sky rocket in this very harsh time.
Atleast the appreciation are better than those property which plunge 30% under market rate right now.

Besides, yes it is transacted price.
It's all depends.
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post Aug 29 2022, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 29 2022, 10:29 AM)
Cheap relative to income, foreign country?
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Have you ever heard your surrounding friends who in his/her 30s doesnt own any property?
Those who bought, are on their ways buying 2nd and 3rd.
Expensive?

Work harder on your job then.
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Aug 29 2022, 11:25 AM)
Have you ever heard your surrounding friends who in his/her 30s doesnt own any property?
Those who bought, are on their ways buying 2nd and 3rd.
Expensive?

Work harder on your job then.
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Many are trapped in mortgage prison; loan interest rate rise by 1% could flip some into distress.

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post Aug 29 2022, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 29 2022, 11:29 AM)
Many are trapped in mortgage prison; loan interest rate rise by 1% could flip some into distress.
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The one who trapped, are either no better in financial decision, or just pure speculator.
Of course it will burden, but it wont caused u to go lelong the house because of the 1% interest hike right?

The interest rate are in expected since few months ago, if you're not ready for it, starbucks or haidilao every weekend, of course u deserve the lelong.
Or if you can't afford the 1% interest rate hike, think twice to own a property then.
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post Aug 29 2022, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Dingdongcc @ Jul 15 2022, 10:31 PM)
Perhaps people who over leverage will sell cheap, as interest rates are going up, living cost go up. Not everybody can sustain multiple properties.
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even if sell, there will be a horde of buyers buying, so wont drop much if it even drops
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post Aug 29 2022, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(thickface @ Aug 26 2022, 01:40 PM)
I do see your point over there. However, Malaysia does have one of the cheaper housing prices in comparison. Honestly, I don't see a market crash for now as it crashes already. Only exception is that one specific unit if the owner needs quick cash for something.

You can refer alot to how the auction market is going. No kidding. It's getting higher nowadays. Richer people will grab opportunity to make more money if there are more crashes, leaving poorer people behind.
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Agree with your point. Rich man become richer while the poor become beggar is always the rule in the mad story. Market crash yet step into the main stream but started. Currently, MOST industry which rely on USA's order are facing a dramatically shortage of order inputs. Plus, especially production companies are all having a Hiccup now, more and more business owners are going into the credits and loaning crisis, which will affect to the economic effeciency in the end.

I also found out the business around my area all starting complaining on the bad cash turning due to property and asset loans, the OPR especially, making them start to panic. This will comes to a big Turn Around in the Taxpayer. That is, rich will become poor and poor will become rich. This is all come from the point of panic asset sales. The prices will depending on the ability of buyer, if most of the buyer still staying depressed since early this year, price will started falling. Sigh...This crisis is not the normal ones, it is too complicated, the War from Ukraine and Russia, the friction between China and USA, the NATO and Asia annex and the Second Trade War. All of these will be the factors which yield to the seriousness of world economic impact, including property area.

You highlighted a very good point, which Msia has a great competitive prices in properties. However, only in sub-urban area, which doesn't provide a good taste to most of the young buyers nowadays. FYI, the market price of these properties is highly relying on the nature of business in that area and the atractiveness of the job which could lead in high labor input. And this is why, yes, rich people would tend to invest more in those peak area only because it provide unstopable labor input (which translated into demand). An example, if we sit in Johor Baru, apparently there are a lot of legend gold area which are blown on how the place will be glorious, eventually it doesn't, due to the nature of business in that area. This trapped a lot of owners a few years, but it become more serious starting from this year.

I might miss a lot of facts and points...but the main point is that, the market price of property is now unpredictable compare to usual, due to the external various of impact...and most of them are depressed. Property agent team now keep crazing packaging how beautiful is the market is, just have to be aware.......

This post has been edited by sixguyz_jayhan: Aug 29 2022, 02:40 PM
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post Aug 29 2022, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Pakatan SinMa Plus @ Aug 26 2022, 12:39 PM)
I dont get your first point. If most of the owners started to sell their property due to cash demand, the supply will go up, and the price shall go down, right?
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Maybe there is a small misunderstanding here as I didn't explain completely. My wrong. sad.gif

Price goes up as currently there is still a number of cash holder still able to trade, or, another way to understand, the bargaining power is still there. And this is why price haven't drop yet. Those temporary rich people are able to buy with that decent price. Those buyers also believe that now is the worst economic situation, all CHIONG to buy the properties and wait until the economic turns back again. Due to THIS situation, properties' market price all slightly lifted up. North Johore also the same situatioin, last month a numbers of trade suddenly comes in, same goes to South Melaka too. The market price all suddenly climb up, compare to early 2022.

But all these beautiful days will start withered like how you said "the price shall go down". Most owners started to sell their properties madly WHEN owners realized that that they are unable to hold anymore due to the economic crisis force them to gave up, at this time, buyers are also scared to to hold invest the asset. Now the supply is more than the demand. This dilemma of worrying by consumer is now brewing . The external factors by world's war and internal factors = politics will boost the situation that you mentioned.

I hope this may clear ur question haha....sorry for that un-understandable explanation.


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post Aug 29 2022, 03:56 PM

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i think market is picking up now.

just sold a landed residential property which was vacant for a few years

and it was a cash buyer
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post Aug 29 2022, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(mystalyzer @ Aug 29 2022, 03:56 PM)
i think market is picking up now.

just sold a landed residential property which was vacant for a few years

and it was a cash buyer
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mind to share the area bro?
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post Aug 29 2022, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(jrshow @ Aug 29 2022, 04:55 PM)
mind to share the area bro?
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Putra Heights
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post Aug 29 2022, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(mystalyzer @ Aug 29 2022, 05:00 PM)
Putra Heights
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can sure price and the build up bro?

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