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 Will you think the property market will fall soon?, will the landed property fall in 2024?

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jojolicia
post May 10 2023, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ May 10 2023, 04:39 PM)
Indirectly, the loose monetary policies in the 2000 and 2010s have contributed to the state of property market now.

The government can take the easy way out of pushing OPR to be low , but we will end up like Turkiye with runaway inflation.
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Not loose la.
It was just innovately made attractive and affordable entry with financing package.

That was why came mid 2010s (can't really remember, i think 2014/15), bnm enforced 3rd & above prop at 70% finance margin lo

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post May 18 2023, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 18 2023, 01:02 AM)
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Net worth > us$485k or about rm 2.2m is t1 in this country. maluhsian is poorer than most expected.
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Good morning!

These stat figures (usd) is benched against, to the respective countries cost of living or income per capita? Or what parameter

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jojolicia
post Jun 6 2023, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(jrshow @ Jun 5 2023, 10:51 PM)
looks like the market not tat hot alr
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State election kua.
May not be a matter to buyers but it sure does to a developer
jojolicia
post Jun 14 2023, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 23 2023, 04:27 PM)
Poorperly price doesn't need to drop for investors to loss money. most of those bought post 2014 are underwater is a reality.
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Why boss icemanfx kena sus?
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post Jul 19 2023, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(cms @ Jul 14 2022, 05:57 PM)
There's a similar thread which has been tracking property prices since 5-8 years ago.

More active there.
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Can share the link?
jojolicia
post Jul 19 2023, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(cms @ Jul 19 2023, 01:30 PM)
I didn't save the link yo. The thread starter also kena ban already.
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Ok thanks for replying.
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post Jul 25 2023, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 25 2023, 07:33 AM)
In recent transactions, most were <400k and bought by non non.
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Good morning icemanfx, you are back 👍
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post Dec 11 2023, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(clyeoh1980 @ Dec 11 2023, 11:59 AM)
Covid 2.0 is around the corner, what happen now exactly the same happen in end 2019. just that now it happen on the kid/children. will it be MCO again ?
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Lock down 2.0? Can the current coffers afford it after 1.0 "set go" so many questionable precedences?

I doubt so

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post Aug 18 2024, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(msacras @ Aug 17 2024, 11:25 PM)
It just practically can’t fall.

So much red tapes, materials costs, overheads are contributing to the high cost of construction. You don’t expect developers to sell you properties at a loss.

The best they can do for you is to cost cutting on quality and shrink down the build up per unit so poorer ppl can afford them.
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Since you mentioned red tapes, more in the making and coming
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post Sep 25 2024, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Aug 18 2024, 06:36 AM)
Malaysian uncles aunties still hope their kids have 2-5 houses. This really helps the property industry to BBBUUU.

No one ever thinks about opportunity cost, cash flow etc. They rather focus on CNY Deepavali Hari Raya, brag about their new house...Who brags about the 7 digit savings you have?
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But you can't deny the fact of having 1 or 2 non movable assets of today's value for your kid's 20 years head start.

No right or wrong, but question is for yourself only or for your next gen?

You still need to hedge right on top of all other variable instruments. Why limit to one and not both classes?

Can you find any house/ shop lot/ land subsale today that is going cheaper in value than 10 years before?

You talk cash flow, opportunity cost at cumulation but wealth preservation is still the end game unless you plan to spend it all on yourself this lifetime.
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post Sep 25 2024, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 25 2024, 12:36 PM)
Are you happy to stay in >20 years condo? How much are >20 years condo?
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Well the fact is you can't even buy a service apartment today for the price of a true condominium 20 years ago.

Head start can mean today's value of yesteryear and not necessary staying in a 20 years unit.


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post Sep 25 2024, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 25 2024, 01:29 PM)
What about loan interest and expenses incurred in the last 20 years.
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Likewise as in a 9 yrs hire purchase no-no

If you do mortgage 20, it's a roof over your head and a peace of mind in the process of owing for your family well being and nothing else. Period.

Don't be a wannabe of nothing talking shiet roi when you do 20 to begin with.

The cost of financing dy kill you. Don't be a self contradicting person for a start.

If you still wanna dip in as investment or hedge (selectively), cap your CoF at <20% loan. Tenure for the run, sendiri work backwards, you will get the math. If I still remember correctly, it should be ard 8-10 yrs from SPA date. Yes, SPA date, a true buyer starts paying upon signing the dot not vp. For a service apartment, you can make 4 babies in 4 years.

Construction progressive interest, seriously? Read para 3 & 4 again

Lock your acquire cost.

Rental return should still be way >4% pa of acquired cost upon VP (assuming that same cash amount in fd, leave other variables aside pls, yes crypto have better figures) plus an upside of appreciation, hopefully.

You tell me Ice, IDK.
Will the prop value 20 yrs later almost at par with what the bank earns from a 20 yrs tenure mortgage loaner of the same SPA? Rental + upside appreciation

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post Sep 25 2024, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Sep 25 2024, 02:23 PM)
I read a very interesting book. On how boomers trillions wealth gonna be to other gens hands. Wonder if that cause a shift in how the young allocate their funds . It's worth a thread itself.
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Do share. Start a thread

 

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