QUOTE(lee82gx @ Aug 11 2022, 01:23 PM)
With me, you can call me out directly, I'm fine.
I like to say call a spade a spade. Its me, no need to say some ppl. I'm sorry to Mr. De Jong if he feels slighted that I call him a reject. Surely he can kick my butt in a football match.
But I call him a reject because he is one. What else would you call a player who is surplus to requirements after having arrived at the club of his own dreams? Can't be call him a highly prized personnel. I can accept the further points that there are reasons for being reject, but it changes not a bit that he is one. I also acknowledge he is far from a broken player who cannot kick a round ball.
I also concede someone's rubbish is another one's treasure, hence, I never say he is not welcome. I already say he is likely to be an "upgrade" to what we have, but to say our problems end with this one player arriving....Or to give our transfer team ANY accolade / plaudits for delivering his signature after all this nonsense.....is blah.
Another thing Sanchez, Di Maria both are rejects. No matter how you imagine it came to be, both their teams were very very happy to be offloaded of those 2. Unwanted by their clubs. So its actually another point on the side of not trying to sign players who have "high rating" but are not so wanted by their teams. Pogba was not, we paid through the teeth because both teams wanted him.
Lastly - Henry was 22 when he was rejected by Juve. Obviously it is the wrong decision to do so now, but he was
22. He obviously had a lot of development ahead of him. Now our prized Frenkie is 25, he should be easily considered finished article or at least close to. Imagine signing Henry at 25. Surely big difference.
the point is … becoming surplus doesn’t mean is a reject. Even by simple definition extra doesn’t mean subpar or compromised quality. But, it's fine if you're not impressed by certain players' performance or quality since it's subjective.
However, there are some key differences but most importantly I would classify reject as players who cant perform at clubs after long time even given many chances (like Hazard at Real Madrid now, but no one expect his fall of form and injury seeing his crazy form in EPL). Other examples would be like Isco (motivation issue) and James Rodriguez ..
For example, before Ozil and Di Maria at Real Madrid … they replaced Sneijder and Robben who are still in prime and top performance … however they were judged by Perez as not glamorous enough and just shipped out. Good for the Dutch players that they have won more else where and obtained praises and acknowledgment for their performance.
If we were to buy Sneijder and Robben at that time, would you call them reject or surplus?
Same case as Ozil and Di Maria, Perez found new shiny toys again after some years later and the cycle repeat with Bale, etc. Obviously Di Maria failed at Man Utd as his heart is not here while LvG keep shuffling his position on the field while Ozil just lost the motivation after some time in Arsenal. However, at no time of their transfer out of Real Madrid, their skills or performance are being questioned. Again, at that point of time, they are surplus because of Galaticco policy rather than for footballing or decline reason …
Anyway, for me just calling players as rejects are easy or lazy.
Not the first time as well for good players go to Barca and being played out of position then ppl criticised them for performance and shipped out later and performed elsewhere again - Fabregas (Chelsea) and maybe Coutinho (Bayern) as the more recent example. Even Real Madrid “reject” Eto’o (he was nvr given a chance) went on and won more trophies in his career during the Barca domination period and at Inter.
So it seems like buying surplus player from another team isnt an issue as long as is good fit … while getting reject has high chance of failure due to pre-existing issues ..
Question for thought, is Sterling or Jesus surplus to City or reject?
This post has been edited by tzxsean: Aug 11 2022, 02:29 PM 
Aug 9 2022, 02:03 PM
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surely cheaper than what ever option available..
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