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gobiomani
post Jul 19 2022, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(subaiku @ Jul 18 2022, 04:43 PM)
Ok guys, really thanks for all the input, just wanted to update for everybody's future reference because this was scary AF. So this is what actually happened.

Got the Joven technician to come over and check, turns out it is the heater element that was spoilt. But usually if this happens, turning on the water heater would have tripped the current box. However it did not, instead the current was running through the copper piping then into the steel shower head. F*ck.

So, got heater element fixed and then got my electrician to come take a look to find out why it didn't trip as it should have. Turns out the ground wire for the water heater was not connected to anything!  shocking.gif This one is probably due to my previous crappy contractor who did my reno who also installed the water heaters. Was a vomit blood experience but that's another story.

What the electrician did then was to connect the ground wire from my nearby air ventilator to the water heater's ground wire so in future should trip if anything goes wrong. He says should be safe enough. But can also do further precaution by installing RCBO for the water heater at the current box.

Sorry if I have wrongly described anything as my electrical knowledge is nil. Anyways I'm considering getting these RCBO models, all got various prices... any advice?

https://shopee.com.my/%F0%9F%86%9ACHINT-NXB...77-d1d65bb4a703

https://shopee.com.my/MAXGUARD-20A-32A-2P-1...b3-07b2a2953144

This one is the cheapest, but... is it any good?  sweat.gif
https://shopee.com.my/CNC-YCB9NL-40-230V-RC...fb-5b0e8b96535e
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If going for RCBO get the Schneider one - around RM130. Better still if your DB box has sufficient space, get RCCB 10mA from ABB or Hager, its around RM150 for ABB and RM190 for Hager. If using RCCB, you still need a MCB.
Don't cheap out on breakers and RCDs.
gobiomani
post Jul 21 2022, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(subaiku @ Jul 20 2022, 10:47 AM)
Ok, thanks! Will look into the Schneider ones... sorry noob question, not sure if I have a MCB? This is my DB box currently...

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All those C20, C32, etc are MCBs.
Your DB box is using Hager components, better for you to buy Hager RCCBs as they will fit perfectly when you cover the enclosure. The enclosure tolerance is tight, if use other brands may not be able to close back, may need to trim the window on the enclosure cover if want to use cheaper brands. Take note that I am not talking about the outer cover, I'm talking about the cover where the stickers (main switch, danger, etc) are on.
On another note, your DB box should not be having those C32 MCBs unless there are ring circuits in your house (which is very unlikely). Check what those MCBs are for and replace them with more appropriately sized MCBs.
You must also change your main RCCB which is using 300mA sensitivity to 30mA (0.03A). 300mA house burn down also RCD will not trip.

This post has been edited by gobiomani: Jul 21 2022, 10:45 AM
gobiomani
post Jul 27 2022, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jul 27 2022, 02:00 AM)
looking at how TS's electrician installed the water heater and the errors with the DB box.... I'm wondering how many other houses out there are done the same way by the same guy with the same mistake as well? basically all ticking time bomb.....
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This kind of thing is unfortunately very common in Malaysia. Most so called electricians in Malaysia don't know what they are doing or want to get it done with minimum work for them. The attitude of most Malaysians where they are not willing to pay for good quality and knowledgeable electrician is also a very big contributing factor to such poor quality work.
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post Aug 4 2022, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(subaiku @ Aug 3 2022, 07:51 PM)
Hey gobiomani, I've got another question, if my RCCB is 63A 300mA, is it neccesary to get the same 63A? As in a 63A 30mA RCCB?
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Yes, must use back the same as sifu ceo684 said. I also learn so many things from her.

 

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