QUOTE(subaiku @ Jul 18 2022, 04:43 PM)
Ok guys, really thanks for all the input, just wanted to update for everybody's future reference because this was scary AF. So this is what actually happened.
Got the Joven technician to come over and check, turns out it is the heater element that was spoilt. But usually if this happens, turning on the water heater would have tripped the current box. However it did not, instead the current was running through the copper piping then into the steel shower head. F*ck.
So, got heater element fixed and then got my electrician to come take a look to find out why it didn't trip as it should have. Turns out the ground wire for the water heater was not connected to anything!
This one is probably due to my previous crappy contractor who did my reno who also installed the water heaters. Was a vomit blood experience but that's another story.
What the electrician did then was to connect the ground wire from my nearby air ventilator to the water heater's ground wire so in future should trip if anything goes wrong. He says should be safe enough. But can also do further precaution by installing RCBO for the water heater at the current box.
Sorry if I have wrongly described anything as my electrical knowledge is nil. Anyways I'm considering getting these RCBO models, all got various prices... any advice?
https://shopee.com.my/%F0%9F%86%9ACHINT-NXB...77-d1d65bb4a703
https://shopee.com.my/MAXGUARD-20A-32A-2P-1...b3-07b2a2953144
This one is the cheapest, but... is it any good?
https://shopee.com.my/CNC-YCB9NL-40-230V-RC...fb-5b0e8b96535e
Just to clarify, you are using a storage water heater correct? Not an instant water heater.Got the Joven technician to come over and check, turns out it is the heater element that was spoilt. But usually if this happens, turning on the water heater would have tripped the current box. However it did not, instead the current was running through the copper piping then into the steel shower head. F*ck.
So, got heater element fixed and then got my electrician to come take a look to find out why it didn't trip as it should have. Turns out the ground wire for the water heater was not connected to anything!
What the electrician did then was to connect the ground wire from my nearby air ventilator to the water heater's ground wire so in future should trip if anything goes wrong. He says should be safe enough. But can also do further precaution by installing RCBO for the water heater at the current box.
Sorry if I have wrongly described anything as my electrical knowledge is nil. Anyways I'm considering getting these RCBO models, all got various prices... any advice?
https://shopee.com.my/%F0%9F%86%9ACHINT-NXB...77-d1d65bb4a703
https://shopee.com.my/MAXGUARD-20A-32A-2P-1...b3-07b2a2953144
This one is the cheapest, but... is it any good?
https://shopee.com.my/CNC-YCB9NL-40-230V-RC...fb-5b0e8b96535e
If it is a storage water heater, then FYI storage water heaters do not have a built-in circuit breaker like instant water heaters. So they have to rely on the DB box circuit breaker. BUT if your storage water heater is not grounded / no earth connection, no matter how good quality your circuit breaker is, the circuit breaker will not trip when there is a current leakage, and u will be electrocuted.
Hence why SIRIM / Suruhanjaya Tenaga now set a new guideline for storage water heaters to come with Isolation Barriers placed at both the storage water heaters' inlet and outlet water connection. Most SIRIM certified storage water heater brands already complied to this guideline, and some brands even took the extra safety effort to pre-install the isolation barriers on the heater, such as CENTON, which is extra good, considering some inexperienced installers will missed out installing the Isolation Barriers if they are not pre-installed on the heater out-of-the-box.
Isolation Barriers are simple devices that elongate any current flow from the storage water heater to users, so any current flow (if there is) will barely reach the users. So in your case where there is an unfortunate current leakage because of the lack of earthing, if your storage water heater is pre-installed with Isolation Barriers, the Isolation Barriers will protect u from electrocution to a certain extend. But every device has a lifespan as well, so u will probably be protected until the lifespan of the Isolation Barriers ended. So don't just rely on the Isolation Barriers to protect u. Installation and earthing connection has to be correct in the first place.
Basically just a safety tip for u, if your storage water heater do not have Isolation Barriers pre-installed, u are advised to install them.
Jul 20 2022, 04:36 PM

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