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shaun_kok
post Jun 30 2022, 02:54 PM

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When the both Celcom+Digi finally merged, what will be the core network/PLMN they will be using?

I think it should be from Digi (50216) rather than Celcom's (50219) as Digi 's network has the best and widest device support among both telco in terms on VOLTE and VoWiFi.

It will be crazy for the merged company to uses Celcom's core network with minimum device support in terms of VoLTE/VoWiFi, since Celcom is lagging on activating both VoLTE and VoWiFi.

It will be Possible to see 5CA or even 6CA from the merged Celcom/Digi network, this is if they decide to rent from Altel.

15MHz (B8) + 20MHz (B3) +15MHz (B3) + 15MHz (B1) + 10MHz (B1) + 20MHz (B7, Altel spectrum)

The Band 1 part can be changed into 20MHz +5MHz though
Band 3 will become their main capacity band while Band 8 will be the coverage band with faster speeds.
This is if they decide that 2G and 4G will coexist

Theoretically Gigabit 4G speeds will be possible within the merged network, when they uses 256QAM + 4X4 MIMO, much faster with 8X8 MIMO (Celcom is using that on some sites.) It will be lesser though due to the type of device, network coverage, network congestion and the plan speed one are subscribing. Real life speeds should be possible to rival DNB 5G, with speeds of few hundred Mbps (on 4G) on flagship devices and on a full speed data plan.

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post Jun 30 2022, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(lakini80 @ Jun 30 2022, 02:56 PM)
VSS inkambing
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They have to create a new MVNO unit though, redeploy some workers in the new unit
Even that VSS may not be avoided
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post Jun 30 2022, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Jun 30 2022, 03:11 PM)
theoretically

2G: 10mhz (2x5) 900 (b8) + 10mhz (2x5) 1800 (b3)

4G: 20mhz (2x10) 900 (b8) + 60mhz (3x20) 1800 (b3) + 50mhz (2x20 + 2x5)

alongside ALTEL 2x20 2600 b7

total can do up to 5CA and 11 MIMO streams enough for LTE GIGABIT(lol)
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2G and 4G can coexist within the spectrum, there is technology for that.
I have seen Digi using all the available spectrum for 4G 4CA mode.

Or they can just use 900MHz for 2G coverage, with 1800MHz used for high traffic areas. 2G usage is declining, serving as a fallback network for voice calls to devices without VoLTE/usage for phones that support only 2G, and there is no need to allocate too much spectrum for that.

The most important is still VoLTE/VoWiFi though, which I speculate they will be using Digi's Core network with best of coverage from both networks.
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post Jun 30 2022, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Jun 30 2022, 01:47 PM)
the price they have to pay for merger to happen is

1. 70mhz of spectrum have to be given back to mcmc (mcmc will reassign to another new company maybe) including ALL 2600 spectrum they hold (40mhz) (they also rent spectrum from ALTEL and moving forward can only use rented 2600 spectrum)

2. MVNO renting have to be spin off under the subsidiary of the new merged company and subject to stricter regulations (this affects tune talk, XOX, redONE etc but such business will go on)

3. yoodo have to be either spin off into seperate entity, sold off or to be close down
moving forward the case will be similar to UK EE (was merger of T mobile and Orange UK operation) in which new company name will be decided while digi and celcom branding will continue for a while (maybe 2-3 years) before eventually merge of operation
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Giving spectrum to other new company will result on what Altel has done, making rental to other providers.

It is better that the spectrum is assigned to the other 4 telcos (Maxis, U Mobile, TM, Yes) with stricter requirements to improve communication quality rather giving to some newcomers, letting it wasted. But who knows, this is MCMC which has known to give Altel spectrum to waste.

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post Jun 30 2022, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Jun 30 2022, 09:00 PM)
if celcom digi merge then tunetalk how? CB liao?
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Tunetalk will still exist, possibly under a different structure than what they have now

The article only mentioned they have to divest/close down Yoodo
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post Jun 30 2022, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(axxer @ Jun 30 2022, 09:10 PM)
Thats because yoodo is directly under celcom. It is a celcom subsidiary. "real" mvno like tunetalk, xox, redone, tonewow, toneplus isn't related to celcom and digi, company wise. They're only renting access to both network whereas yoodo is celcom, employees paid by celcom. Weird thing here is digi tapp, i though tapp is similar to yoodo, like a digi subsidiary. Strange that only yoodo is mentioned because its connection to celcom but not tapp for its connection with digi.
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Maybe because Digi didn't actively promoting tapp like what Celcom do with Yoodo.

 

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