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post Jul 2 2022, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jul 2 2022, 10:14 AM)
Already stated in the mcmc doc that they will need to return spectrums within 3 years. Mcmc will pro rate payback Digi for the spectrum they paid to Mcmc.

Question is who Mcmc will give the spectrum to?

Likely to some new no experience telco registered in SSM last week.
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The service quality for the merge entity sure confirm sucks....
Seriously... Don't know what MCMC thinking.... Bigger pool of customers but smaller spectrum allocated?.....
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post Jul 2 2022, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jul 2 2022, 07:45 AM)
Digi needs to return all their spectrum to MCMC so all users will connect under Celcom spectrum resources only. Will congest to hell …
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source about this? seriously this is not good if true

soyacincao says only part of the spectrum, and only will happens within 2-3 years AFTER deal close. if it is true that digi return all then this is not practical at all as well because such spectrum are just 2g and 4g , and DNB will not get such spectrum as it is focus on 5g infra. which telco will get? dont tell me altel will get such and rent such lol

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post Jul 2 2022, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Jul 2 2022, 03:09 PM)
source about this? seriously this is not good if true

soyacincao says only part of the spectrum, and only will happens within 2-3 years AFTER deal close. if it is true that digi return all then this is not practical at all as well because such spectrum are just 2g and 4g , and DNB will not get such spectrum as it is focus on 5g infra. which telco will get? dont tell me altel will get such and rent such lol
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70 out of 105 Mhz need to be returned over 2-3 yrs which are all the primary 4G LTE bands used by Digi. Remaining are for 2G.

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post Jul 2 2022, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jul 2 2022, 03:53 PM)
70 out of 105 Mhz need to be returned over 2-3 yrs which are all the primary 4G LTE bands used by Digi. Remaining are for 2G.
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Probably the biggest impact is the divestment of a total of 70MHz of spectrum. This includes 10MHz in the 1800MHz band, 20MHz in the 2100MHz band and 40MHz in the 2600MHz band. The spectrum must be returned back to the MCMC over a 3-year period and the first band of divestment spectrum must happen within 2 years of closing.


For 2600, 40mhz are both held by digi and celcom of 20mhz respectively

Yeah for 1800 and 2100, just partially

You might read wrongly or assuming wrongly though
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post Jul 2 2022, 06:53 PM

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As mentioned in the article, the most likely spectrum to be given back first is 1800 b3 (within 2 years of closing)

1800 b3 of 10mhz can be given to U mobile as soon as that happens


Other two bands, 2100 likely will be retender entirely (as 3g shutdown cause 5mhz surplus being unused from each 4 carriers) and 40mhz 2600 likely will be given to someone else (hopefully not that altel again, but potentially can be given to DNB for N7 5G band to complement 3500 and 700 and possibly mmwave)
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post Jul 3 2022, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Jul 2 2022, 06:53 PM)
As mentioned in the article, the most likely spectrum to be given back first is 1800 b3 (within 2 years of closing)

1800 b3 of 10mhz can be given to U mobile as soon as that happens
Other two bands, 2100 likely will be retender entirely (as 3g shutdown cause 5mhz surplus being unused from each 4 carriers) and 40mhz 2600 likely will be given to someone else (hopefully not that altel again, but potentially can be given to DNB for N7 5G band to complement 3500 and 700 and possibly mmwave)
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LTE bands should be given to operators with LTE with existing infra to use it right away - UM, Maxis, Celcom=Digi (reevaluate).
DNB shall be only using their own spectrum now, giving them new spectrum means they will need more billion (on top of their current 12B commitment over 10 years) to deploy additional antenna and infra. It is not wise to spend to invest on LTE infra for DNB.
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jul 3 2022, 02:08 PM)
LTE bands should be given to operators with LTE with existing infra to use it right away - UM, Maxis, Celcom=Digi (reevaluate).
DNB shall be only using their own spectrum now, giving them new spectrum means they will need more billion (on top of their current 12B commitment over 10 years) to deploy additional antenna and infra. It is not wise to spend to invest on LTE infra for DNB.
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The samw 4g spectrum can also be used for 5g

But since DNB goes with SWN, other telcos can use it as 4g ONLY (cannot launch 5g themselves)

If DNB get mid band 2600 as 5g band, for me still acceptable

Because 700mhz as 5g band will be not quite as fast, while 3500 is new band with poorer indoor coverage and required new transmitter for base tower. If DNB can use such transmitter for 3 bands as comprehensive 5g coverage then i can accept SWN model

1800,2100 can be either for 4g or get refarm as 5g, but i prefer stay for 4g in case many people still using 4g only phones

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another solutions for 2600 if they go with p3n6 suggestion instead of just give to DNB or useless renter

20mhz give to U mobile (u mobile currently having less spectrum holding)
another 20mhz give to TM unifi (unifi currently rented some celcom 2600 for some indoor locations)
so both of them originally only having 20mhz because not sharing with someone else can also expand their 2600 to 40mhz. the most fair way for LTE bands to still give better experience in line with Jendela goals

For B1 2100, just give 10mhz to maxis and u mobile respectively
CD 50 (40 usable), Mx 45 (40 usable), Um 45 (40 usable), so 2100 usable spectrum can be equally assigned to 3 big telcos of future
(i now realised that 2100 actually contain total 20mhz of TDD block that remain unused for 5mhz of each carriers)

from those drama actually observe the one of main reasons why LTE so "suck" or something. MCMC give spectrum to too much players, some smaller players which failed to build their own infra proceed to share with bigger players instead. cause so much wastage on spectrum and inefficacies in spectrum usage cause 4g speed and coverage no up to par in some places

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tapp is ending. digi gonna absorb the users.
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post Jul 10 2022, 01:15 AM

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All the MVNO will close shop already
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post Jul 14 2022, 03:00 AM

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not superb, if it goes down to a duopoly with them and maxis.

i saw some news in canada, they also have something like how one company held like 35% of the market, so when their services went down. like a third of the country had no internet, cell or landline services for like the whole day or some.

like that would big succ. XD
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post Jul 14 2022, 08:06 AM

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........ and positioning the two telco’s prepaid and postpaid services under a single brand within two years.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...om-digi-merger/
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post Jul 14 2022, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(ezekieldavidchong @ Jul 10 2022, 01:15 AM)
All the MVNO will close shop already
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Because?

Of the merger of Celcom+Digi?

More like saturated market...
So they also might go merger among themselves...
Become one big MVNO

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