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TSBrightDays
post Jun 28 2022, 04:50 PM, updated 4y ago

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Hi guys, I plan to buy an Iphone 13 Pro Max via Digi PhoneFreedom 365. So, the device will be known as a 'Telco Set'. Will they unseal the box upon passing me the device? Is there any special thing I need to take note of since it is a Telco Set? How will it different from a normal device and is it safe? Thanks.
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post Jun 28 2022, 05:01 PM

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Only unsafe when you didn't pay your bill for more than x number of months as Telco can perform Phone Locking as their last resort.

You can check with the counter on this.

Other than that you are the one who owns the phone but you need to be in full tenure for the contract period as per signed if not there will be additional penalty charges.

And also if you are planning to resell the phone after that, you are pretty much in dead end as most buyer will avoid telco set especially those that is under 2 years unless you can share proof that you had purchased fully or proof that the phone is already out of contract.
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post Jun 28 2022, 05:24 PM

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some said Telco set need to return to Telco after contract period. else need to pay for penalty.
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post Jun 28 2022, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(Gold_Moderator @ Jun 28 2022, 08:07 PM)
some said Telco set need to return to Telco after contract period. else need to pay for penalty.
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Based on the plan u sign up actually. Maxis got three or four type of plan for you to get a phone.

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post Jun 28 2022, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(Garenyu @ Jun 28 2022, 05:01 PM)
Only unsafe when you didn't pay your bill for more than x number of months as Telco can perform Phone Locking as their last resort.

You can check with the counter on this.

Other than that you are the one who owns the phone but you need to be in full tenure for the contract period as per signed if not there will be additional penalty charges.

And also if you are planning to resell the phone after that, you are pretty much in dead end as most buyer will avoid telco set especially those that is under 2 years unless you can share proof that you had purchased fully or proof that the phone is already out of contract.
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I will be upgrading phone every year actually. So, i must avoid buying in telco i guess

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post Jun 28 2022, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(Garenyu @ Jun 28 2022, 05:01 PM)
Only unsafe when you didn't pay your bill for more than x number of months as Telco can perform Phone Locking as their last resort.

You can check with the counter on this.

Other than that you are the one who owns the phone but you need to be in full tenure for the contract period as per signed if not there will be additional penalty charges.

And also if you are planning to resell the phone after that, you are pretty much in dead end as most buyer will avoid telco set especially those that is under 2 years unless you can share proof that you had purchased fully or proof that the phone is already out of contract.
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Nope, I'm not planning to resell the phone.

During the contract period, do they have the 'authority' or anyhow to able to access my data in the phone?
After the contract ends, will they still able to perform Phone Locking? I suppose I will be having 'full right' after the contract ends.
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post Jun 28 2022, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(BrightDays @ Jun 28 2022, 08:46 PM)
Nope, I'm not planning to resell the phone.

During the contract period, do they have the 'authority' or anyhow to able to access my data in the phone?
After the contract ends, will they still able to perform Phone Locking? I suppose I will be having 'full right' after the contract ends.
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During contract, depend on the phone, they have the authority to control the phone. I remember green telco sets got some stuff cannot access but forget which one but it is in Android though
After contract ends, you own the phone
If they perform locking, you can actually blast them for unauthorized lock

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post Jun 29 2022, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(lambox105 @ Jun 28 2022, 10:16 PM)
During contract, depend on the phone, they have the authority to control the phone. I remember green telco sets got some stuff cannot access but forget which one but it is in Android though
After contract ends, you own the phone
If they perform locking, you can actually blast them for unauthorized lock
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Its actually an app called device guard. Cant uninstall or delete it.

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post Jun 29 2022, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(lambox105 @ Jun 28 2022, 10:16 PM)
During contract, depend on the phone, they have the authority to control the phone. I remember green telco sets got some stuff cannot access but forget which one but it is in Android though
After contract ends, you own the phone
If they perform locking, you can actually blast them for unauthorized lock
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Since I'm buying Iphone, I'll assume I'm safe then....hehehe.....
I don't mind if they able to lock my device during the contract period if I don't pay the bill on time, but after the contract ends, I should have the full right on the device....



QUOTE(STEALYOURGLORY @ Jun 29 2022, 12:08 AM)
Its actually an app called device guard. Cant uninstall or delete it.
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Even after the contract ends?
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post Jun 29 2022, 08:56 AM

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post Jun 29 2022, 11:46 AM

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From a personal experience, I got an iphone with maxis 360 under a supp line of a family member plan, but they did not pay the bill and my line got cut out, and maxis locked the phone, so any local sim card won't work on the phone.
- but sim card from other country worked, i guess there is some sort of system between telcos in malaysia to block a phone
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post Jun 29 2022, 11:57 AM

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Just change the IMEI number....
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post Jun 29 2022, 12:09 PM

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The only difference is in ownership.

Same like hire purchase to buy vehicles lah.
Until you paid off, the vehicle belongs to the financing company. You don't pay, they come tarik.

For telco set, the financing company is the telco.
they retain the right to bar usage if you did are a bad paymaster. And since Malaysia have a industry-wide ISP blacklist, you will not be able to get telco and internet services from any provider again until you clean up.

i'm not sure if CTOS also note if you are blacklisted in the industry database.
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post Jun 29 2022, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(BrightDays @ Jun 28 2022, 08:46 PM)
Nope, I'm not planning to resell the phone.

During the contract period, do they have the 'authority' or anyhow to able to access my data in the phone?
After the contract ends, will they still able to perform Phone Locking? I suppose I will be having 'full right' after the contract ends.
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There is no rights for any third party to access your phone data especially when we talk about iPhone which the data is strictly locked to the owner.

The only way for third party to access your personal data is either the owner shared the password to another person such as Family Member or by sharing your icloud detail to third party.

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post Jun 29 2022, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(3825968 @ Jun 29 2022, 11:46 AM)
From a personal experience, I got an iphone with maxis 360 under a supp line of a family member plan, but they did not pay the bill and my line got cut out, and maxis locked the phone, so any local sim card won't work on the phone.
- but sim card from other country worked, i guess there is some sort of system between telcos in malaysia to block a phone
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Jun 29 2022, 11:57 AM)
Just change the IMEI number....
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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Jun 29 2022, 12:09 PM)
The only difference is in ownership.

Same like hire purchase to buy vehicles lah.
Until you paid off, the vehicle belongs to the financing company. You don't pay, they come tarik.

For telco set, the financing company is the telco.
they retain the right to bar usage if you did are a bad paymaster. And since Malaysia have a industry-wide ISP blacklist, you will not be able to get telco and internet services from any provider again until you clean up.

i'm not sure if CTOS also note if you are blacklisted in the industry database.
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QUOTE(Garenyu @ Jun 29 2022, 03:09 PM)
There is no rights for any third party to access your phone data especially when we talk about iPhone which the data is strictly locked to the owner.

The only way for third party to access your personal data is either the owner shared the password to another person such as Family Member or by sharing your icloud detail to third party.
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Thank you for replying....I don't mind they lock my phone (if I don't pay on time), its just that I might store a lot of p and c docs in the phone, worrying they might have the authority to access it... since according to your reply, its basically impossible, then I'm fine to go... thank you so much guys.
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post Jun 29 2022, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(STEALYOURGLORY @ Jun 29 2022, 12:08 AM)
Its actually an app called device guard. Cant uninstall or delete it.
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BrightDays Thats it's why better buy non telco set
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post Jun 30 2022, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(lambox105 @ Jun 29 2022, 10:23 PM)
BrightDays Thats it's why better buy non telco set
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I was considering a Telco Set cause the price is way way more cheaper than the retail price....now, I need to re-consider then... Thank you...

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QUOTE(BrightDays @ Jun 29 2022, 08:39 PM)
Thank you for replying....I don't mind they lock my phone (if I don't pay on time), its just that I might store a lot of p and c docs in the phone, worrying they might have the authority to access it... since according to your reply, its basically impossible, then I'm fine to go... thank you so much guys.
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For example, Samsung has a device management Knox on the phone that allows telco to lock mobile services, control certain functions on the phone to prevent access but not gain access to the phone content. This functions are meant for company to control their staff company phone from leaking info out when it is lost. I heard for Android some features cant work if on mdm and some banking apps wont run.


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QUOTE(BrightDays @ Jun 30 2022, 12:03 PM)
QUOTE(lambox105 @ Jun 29 2022, 10:23 PM)

QUOTE(STEALYOURGLORY @ Jun 29 2022, 12:08 AM)

Its actually an app called device guard. Cant uninstall or delete it.
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BrightDays Thats it's why better buy non telco set
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I was considering a Telco Set cause the price is way way more cheaper than the retail price....now, I need to re-consider then... Thank you...
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bought hire-purchase/ing Samsung S10+, Samsung A31, iPhone 13 PM, and more that I cannot remember from Maxis; none have this so-called imaginary Device Guard inside.

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