finish build already?
China builds 1000 schools in Iraq,, US killed 1 million Iraqis
China builds 1000 schools in Iraq,, US killed 1 million Iraqis
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Jun 28 2022, 12:00 PM
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finish build already?
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Jun 28 2022, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(jamilselamat @ Jun 28 2022, 07:39 AM) No American corporation saw fit to invest in developing infra for Iraqis. They only care about pure short term profits. No one's motive is pure, there is no charity in this world.China through its state controlled firms did so. Iraqis will grow up to appreciate China and are more likely to side with China against US. China's motives cant be pure, but if Iraqis wanna take from China, it's their right. but I rather the impure motive who doesnt bomb the hell out of my country.... |
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Jun 28 2022, 12:09 PM
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Bribe with school 1st, later take over the resources. This is similar plan by CCP to take over Sri Lanka.
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Jun 28 2022, 12:31 PM
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Bedouin is unlikely be grateful, will find excuse to write off.
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Jun 28 2022, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Jun 28 2022, 12:09 PM) Bribe with school 1st, later take over the resources. This is similar plan by CCP to take over Sri Lanka. the news mention liao,dont worry o money, can pay with oil...<-- --------- serious question, those building can last how long? china got history of building tofu construction.... not that other country dony have tofu construction, but china quite famous leh... |
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Jun 28 2022, 12:50 PM
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Jun 28 2022, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(nobrainer86 @ Jun 28 2022, 03:25 AM) So far we can say that about PRC I also believe there will never be a reunification- by arms or diplomacy- and Taiwan will be left alone. It's practically a nation by it's own anyways so no necessity for Taiwan to formally declare itself. But when (and I strongly believe it's a when not an if) they do the same over Taiwan, can we still say that? And for China it's much more convenient to keep things status quo than disturbing the balance with say, an invasion. Why wanna end up another Russia? Unless we see Taiwan arming itself and letting its soil be staging base for foreign military pointing at China, then things might get interesting. So no, I can't answer your question now, can only see the answer if that day actually arrives |
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Jun 28 2022, 12:55 PM
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America killing and slaughtering innocent women and children in Iraq - We are bringing freedom and democracy to Iraq!!!
China building schools in Iraq - The communist are poisoning the minds of young iraqis and staging a war to taken over the country!!! Lol |
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Jun 28 2022, 01:03 PM
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what's with this cccp propaganda in this shit forum btw...
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Jun 28 2022, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jun 28 2022, 12:50 PM) I also believe there will never be a reunification- by arms or diplomacy- and Taiwan will be left alone. It's practically a nation by it's own anyways so no necessity for Taiwan to formally declare itself. I am not debating the reason, but the consequence: which seems the more pertinent question here going by the narrative that is saying of US being utter destroyers while PRC being benign builders & educators.And for China it's much more convenient to keep things status quo than disturbing the balance with say, an invasion. Why wanna end up another Russia? Unless we see Taiwan arming itself and letting its soil be staging base for foreign military pointing at China, then things might get interesting. So no, I can't answer your question now, can only see the answer if that day actually arrives Whatever it is, PRC will destroy and level to the ground a people and land, and that is suddenly ok? In fact in every term Taiwan even today are more advanced, prosperous, responsible & established than Iraq was prior to US invasion. |
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Jun 28 2022, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(nobrainer86 @ Jun 28 2022, 01:17 PM) I am not debating the reason, but the consequence: which seems the more pertinent question here going by the narrative that is saying of US being utter destroyers while PRC being benign builders & educators. Since when did I say it is ok for China to destroy and level to the ground a people and land? Whatever it is, PRC will destroy and level to the ground a people and land, and that is suddenly ok? In fact in every term Taiwan even today are more advanced, prosperous, responsible & established than Iraq was prior to US invasion. I think you're just biased against China. The narrative that is saying of US being utter destroyers while PRC being benign builders & educators IS what is being played out in Iraq right now, or are you disputing US never dropped bombs in Iraq (somemore over non-existent wmd) and PRC never build schools? Be rational and don't just fix your stand it MUST be this way no matter what. Hypothetically speaking, if tomorrow China invades Taiwan, then they are scum and deserves all the sanctions and condemnations just like Russia. But hypothetically speaking again, what if tomorrow Taiwan gets visited by US with their freedom arsenal and whole country got flattened, then PRC came in to rebuild the infra and schools, then what will you say? |
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Jun 28 2022, 02:37 PM
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The difference between Iraq and Xinjiang is oil.
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Jun 28 2022, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jun 28 2022, 02:35 PM) Since when did I say it is ok for China to destroy and level to the ground a people and land? i think usa is the no1 bully, no one could match them, ccp is catching up though. I think you're just biased against China. The narrative that is saying of US being utter destroyers while PRC being benign builders & educators IS what is being played out in Iraq right now, or are you disputing US never dropped bombs in Iraq (somemore over non-existent wmd) and PRC never build schools? Be rational and don't just fix your stand it MUST be this way no matter what. Hypothetically speaking, if tomorrow China invades Taiwan, then they are scum and deserves all the sanctions and condemnations just like Russia. But hypothetically speaking again, what if tomorrow Taiwan gets visited by US with their freedom arsenal and whole country got flattened, then PRC came in to rebuild the infra and schools, then what will you say? |
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Jun 28 2022, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jun 28 2022, 02:35 PM) Since when did I say it is ok for China to destroy and level to the ground a people and land? You alone say that, but I bet the majority of those here condemning US will suddenly have a whole bunch of rationalisations and apologetics for the death and destruction brought onto Taiwan (or any other place sooner or later by current PRC regime - one look at their rhetoric shows a war by PLA is coming soon)I think you're just biased against China. The narrative that is saying of US being utter destroyers while PRC being benign builders & educators IS what is being played out in Iraq right now, or are you disputing US never dropped bombs in Iraq (somemore over non-existent wmd) and PRC never build schools? Be rational and don't just fix your stand it MUST be this way no matter what. Hypothetically speaking, if tomorrow China invades Taiwan, then they are scum and deserves all the sanctions and condemnations just like Russia. But hypothetically speaking again, what if tomorrow Taiwan gets visited by US with their freedom arsenal and whole country got flattened, then PRC came in to rebuild the infra and schools, then what will you say? My stand on all superpowers is the same. They are only doing it to further their agenda. US poured billions of aid into rebuilding Europe after WW2 for their own benefit, and ensuring their industry post WW2 has space to grow, same like PRC is doing with all these construction projects today. The price will be paid for all these eventually somehow by the "benefiting" countries. |
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Jun 28 2022, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(nobrainer86 @ Jun 28 2022, 03:19 PM) You alone say that, but I bet the majority of those here condemning US will suddenly have a whole bunch of rationalisations and apologetics for the death and destruction brought onto Taiwan (or any other place sooner or later by current PRC regime - one look at their rhetoric shows a war by PLA is coming soon) I did say earlier prc not doing it for free, but building schools with conditions attached is better than 2000kg of freedom dropped on your house, no?My stand on all superpowers is the same. They are only doing it to further their agenda. US poured billions of aid into rebuilding Europe after WW2 for their own benefit, and ensuring their industry post WW2 has space to grow, same like PRC is doing with all these construction projects today. The price will be paid for all these eventually somehow by the "benefiting" countries. If you want to debate a hypothetical scenario that is yet to happen (if ever), i can also ask the same - what if tomorrow Taiwan gets visited by US with their freedom arsenal and whole country got flattened, then PRC came in to rebuild the infra and schools, what would be your stand on PRC then? danabu liked this post
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Jun 28 2022, 04:27 PM
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Best way to get Iraq's oil....
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Jun 28 2022, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 28 2022, 12:05 PM) No one's motive is pure, there is no charity in this world. Of course. Some people just want to be able to have a decent life. Sacrifice some of their freedom for security. Freedom means jackshit if you still have high chance of dying from a random suicide attack because Syeikh Abu Bakar think playing musical instruments or women showing a little bit of her hips is a haraam act that deserves getting punished by beheading. but I rather the impure motive who doesnt bomb the hell out of my country.... The problem is, there is one country in the middle east who can never accept having a developed Arab country near it, and they will sabotage, subvert and destroy any such country that has such potential. Guess which one. |
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Jun 28 2022, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 28 2022, 12:31 PM) I guess you either didn't learn history in school or totally flunked the subject!?Do you know where Mesopotamia, Sumeria, Babylonia, Neo-Assyrian and Abbasid civilisations were situated? Is that statement coming from prejudice or cluelessness? |
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Jun 28 2022, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(jamilselamat @ Jun 28 2022, 07:39 AM) No American corporation saw fit to invest in developing infra for Iraqis. They only care about pure short term profits. China wants to make the iraqis to be educated, because only educated iraqis will buy their xiaomi vivo.China through its state controlled firms did so. Iraqis will grow up to appreciate China and are more likely to side with China against US. China's motives cant be pure, but if Iraqis wanna take from China, it's their right. not sure why you bersangka buruk, when China is the only superpower that is friendly to Muslim. China protects Saudi and didnt hurt people in Middle east. how China protects Saudi? https://www.iiss.org/blogs/analysis/2021/08...ssile-programme https://thediplomat.com/2014/01/china-secre...h-cia-approval/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Saudi_S...c_Missile_Force 6942nole liked this post
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Jun 28 2022, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(jamilselamat @ Jun 28 2022, 07:39 AM) No American corporation saw fit to invest in developing infra for Iraqis. They only care about pure short term profits. you thought those material, machine and technology are free one China through its state controlled firms did so. Iraqis will grow up to appreciate China and are more likely to side with China against US. China's motives cant be pure, but if Iraqis wanna take from China, it's their right. there is one thing which can be created from thin air: USD. |
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