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 CIMB Islamic product -5 years, Good rate 5.5%

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Wedchar2912
post Jun 22 2022, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 22 2022, 02:43 PM)
RM told me about this Callable Islamic Range Accrual (CIRA)

Capital guaranteed if hold 5 years
Get 5.5% as long as Klibor doesnt shoot beyond limit
Paid 3 monthly
Min RM65k only
Closing date Friday 24.6.22

Good deal if Klibor unlikely to shoot beyond those limits
What do you think?
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klibor is highly correlated to OPR set by BNM. Essentially a one-to-one move.
the upper barrier is 4% thereabout, meaning your bet is essentially BNM will not hike rates by more than 1.75% from today.
Decide if this is a view you are willing to take for the whole 5 years.

If you have a choice, can consider depositing money into epf as EPF die die also will give 2.5% pa.

This post has been edited by Wedchar2912: Jun 22 2022, 03:28 PM
Wedchar2912
post Jun 23 2022, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 23 2022, 02:16 AM)
3 more Central bank meetings this year, she confidently said total increase OPR max 0.25 each time, max 0.75,
so max OPR can go this year is 2.75, 
Klibor likely 3.1-3.2 still within limits

She made further prediction next year also OPR would increase little 0.2 max x 3= 0.6
--->OPR3.36, 
Klibor  3.7,
i may lose  1 quarter interest in May 2023,
in July  New Klibor limit 4.05 sets in, again i should get  paid 5.5%

then CIMB cant tahan paying 5.5%, likely call back

Ismail Sabri dared not increase OPR too much, rakyat suffering, loan expensive business  will collapse

she sounded so confident i hantam lah. ggod thing about this is i collect interest 3 monthly
and it is prorated from Central bank meeting date, calculated  daily basis
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what do you expect your RM to say? she works for the bank that is trying to sell you this product.
look how nicely she state that the hikes of 2023 are in quantum of 20 bps, not 25 bps. BNM traditionally hikes in quantum of 25 bps.

The issuer, ie CIMB, will not call back this Range Accrual if rates are heading upwards.
US Fed is forecasted to hike at least 1.5% for remainder of 2022, so you are really taking a bet on whether BNM wants a weak ringgit or not.... the bet is basically 5 years time worth of your money.... as of now, just worth around 20% of your 500K rm.
Wedchar2912
post Jul 6 2022, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 28 2022, 01:25 PM)
yeah that is the risk i take.

claw back No. 3 monthly whatever pocketed in is yours.

PS: Sold out  in 1 day, late orders did not get it.
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i am sure the barriers are much better now if CIMB relaunch.

maybe you can ask your RM again since you have not invested.
Wedchar2912
post Jul 6 2022, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 6 2022, 09:15 PM)
surprisingly No! lower  barriers
coupon rate reduced ! that  should mean something right?
FD rate wont go up much......i guess
i booked early luckily
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need to ask for a refresh if you are still keen to invest, after today's OPR announcement by BNM.

hopefully u didn't buy into this version (or at least if you got in, it was the previous version with a slightly higher coupon rate).

 

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