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post Sep 29 2007, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(maximsilentfoot @ Sep 29 2007, 08:53 AM)
i dont get the whole life too short thing sailen....u mean it wont b around for very long? grab it while u can then!!
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the 2900pro is actually gpus/pcbs etc that couldnt reach the 2900xt clocks... hences its being sold with a lower clock etc... so again y do u expect it to beat the hd2900xt...

the 2950xt i will be in a wait and see position
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 29 2007, 03:24 PM)
the 2900pro is actually gpus/pcbs etc that couldnt reach the 2900xt clocks... hences its being sold with a lower clock etc... so again y do u expect it to beat the hd2900xt...

the 2950xt i will be in a wait and see position
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as u said,
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the reason for overclocking is to compensate performance and cost .. to out preform a higher priced card etc.

so why cant teh pro beat the xt ? its highly possible. manufactureres bin their chips after tests at a certain temperature, and length of time then only they deem it safe of passed... when a consumer uses it he can clock it to xt speed iwht the right cooling or even the stock cooler if hes lucky,,,,
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 29 2007, 03:30 PM)
thats the most sesat score i have ever seen.. this is the stock clocks dunon where u getting ure numbers and i have the screenshots to back it up.....

X6800 3ghz Galaxy 8800gtx .. 3dmark 12100
X6800 3ghz ASUS EN2900xt...3dmark06 12084
X6800 3ghz ASUS EN8800 Ultra ...3dmark06 12874...

also if u want to compare cards USE THE FEATURE TEST SCORES... on 3dmark06...
as i said real world preformance the 2900xt is not going to be the 8800gts... and hell i am willing to take a bet of 1 k.. kekeke might get banned for this ....will do a live demo, game benchies etc... so who is willing to back up their words..... games would be the 10 most popular games on a 22inch as would not want the 320mb to pull u back from ure buying decision.

my article is almost down and will be publishing it soon.. so who wants to back up their words...come on guys..  gf birthday coming soon .. so the money would be well spend for her dinner..
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bro not challenging u or anything, but i mentioned that in real world games the atis dont perform well.. and afaik the 2900xts are out performing the nvidia cards in 3dmark06.. current world record stands with the 2900xt


Added on September 29, 2007, 2:36 pm
QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 29 2007, 03:30 PM)
thats the most sesat score i have ever seen.. this is the stock clocks dunon where u getting ure numbers and i have the screenshots to back it up.....

X6800 3ghz Galaxy 8800gtx .. 3dmark 12100
X6800 3ghz ASUS EN2900xt...3dmark06 12084
X6800 3ghz ASUS EN8800 Ultra ...3dmark06 12874...

also if u want to compare cards USE THE FEATURE TEST SCORES... on 3dmark06...
as i said real world preformance the 2900xt is not going to be the 8800gts... and hell i am willing to take a bet of 1 k.. kekeke might get banned for this ....will do a live demo, game benchies etc... so who is willing to back up their words..... games would be the 10 most popular games on a 22inch as would not want the 320mb to pull u back from ure buying decision.

my article is almost down and will be publishing it soon.. so who wants to back up their words...come on guys..  gf birthday coming soon .. so the money would be well spend for her dinner..


Added on September 29, 2007, 2:33 pm
okay lets back it up dude.. team koc.. vs cstkl1 ... u do ure benching for the 2900pro...

and i will do mine with the hd2900xt, 8800gts 320mb...

on vista/windows
on the 10 most popular games.

and benchmark will be 3dmark06 feature test.

lets do live... kekeke.. since i already did the benchies for the 8800gts and the hd2900xt...

will do it in low yat plaza...heck can post this shot of the picture for the HR03 review..
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bro i already mentioned that im not saying ur wrong. im stating my opinions..and im stating my viewws has nothing to do with team koc... so leave team koc out of this... u sound as though u got something agasint team koc

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 29 2007, 02:24 PM)
the 2900pro is actually gpus/pcbs etc that couldnt reach the 2900xt clocks... hences its being sold with a lower clock etc... so again y do u expect it to beat the hd2900xt...

the 2950xt i will be in a wait and see position
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The Pro they got clocked to XT speeds.

Most likely a lot can go a bit more from the Pro stock clocks, beating the 8800GTS.

When I get a HR-03 R600 I'd be doing a review too.
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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Sep 29 2007, 02:34 PM)
but i mentioned that in real world games the atis dont perform well..


from the reviews I've seen, the HD2900XT actually does well, coming close to 8800 GTX and even ULTRA at times.
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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Sep 29 2007, 02:34 PM)
bro not challenging u or anything, but i mentioned that in real world games the atis dont perform well.. and afaik the 2900xts are out performing the nvidia cards in 3dmark06.. current world record stands with the 2900xt


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bro i already mentioned that im not saying ur wrong. im stating my opinions..and  im stating my viewws has nothing to do with team koc... so leave team koc out of this... u sound as though u got something agasint team koc
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its true friend..but thats only on volt modded high OCEd cards with extreme cooling

dont take 3dmark05 as its a one sided benchies...

on stock cooling... overclock... it doesnt beat the gtx/ultra when both are clocked to the max.

ok to prove it.. those who back up ati cards..
do this on xp/vista up to u which ever is higher..

benchmark 3dmark06 + the feature test.
when its done show the cpuz of 3ghz ram at 667 2gb,
and ati tools artifact scanning for atleast one hour.
riva tuner monitor for clocks/mem and gpu core temps...

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 29 2007, 03:37 PM)
from the reviews I've seen, the HD2900XT actually does well, coming close to 8800 GTX and even ULTRA at times.
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in general they lose out... coming close also lose, quote from the fast and furious, doesnt matter if u win by an inch or a mile, winnings wining.
but nost games these days give a slight avantage to nvdia or maybe its the nvidias archetecture... no idea tehre... and bro this is nto a rant towards u.. yeah... i mean no offence at all..
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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Sep 29 2007, 02:39 PM)
but nost games these days give a slight avantage to nvdia or maybe its the nvidias archetecture... no idea tehre...  and bro this is nto a rant towards u.. yeah... i mean no offence at all..


leh, no worries. smile.gif i'm just curious, based on what i read and what you said.

another point of comparison would be price : performance ratio.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 29 2007, 02:41 PM)
leh, no worries. smile.gif i'm just curious, based on what i read and what you said.

another point of comparison would be price : performance ratio.
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correto mundo.. so we already know the gts wins against the xt on price performance ratio unless u want to bicker with this then post ure scores for the feature test with a fair cpu/ram comparison.. so it doesnt influence the results too much.

the arguement here is the pro vs the gts.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 29 2007, 03:38 PM)
its true friend..but thats only on vold modded high OCEd cards..

dont take 3dmark05 as its a one sided benchies...

on stock cooling... overclock... it doesnt beat the gtx/ultra when both are clocked to the max.
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im talking bout 3dmark 06 .. adn yeah ill leave it at that... maybe spend so long staring at oced benchies.. i messed up my stock lcocks witht eh oced clocks..lolz...

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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Sep 29 2007, 02:36 PM)
The Pro they got clocked to XT speeds.

Most likely a lot can go a bit more from the Pro stock clocks, beating the 8800GTS.

When I get a HR-03 R600 I'd be doing a review too.
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thats the way.. see finally some sense..somebody that will prove it.
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erm erm~~ question blush.gif ?
1) this 2900PRO version come out after 2900XT?
2) what would be the price for 2900PRO?
3) Is it really official annouced that 2950xt will release on november?
4) If.. november release 2950xt, how bout the release of the 2900XTX?

SORRY me Abit noob noob but want to know things laugh.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 29 2007, 03:41 PM)
leh, no worries. smile.gif i'm just curious, based on what i read and what you said.

another point of comparison would be price : performance ratio.
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well i mentioned atis performe less ( i didnt mention by how much) well in real world... well if ur talking bout performanc : price ratio then im in a limbo...

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 29 2007, 03:43 PM)
correto mundo.. so we already know the gts wins against the xt on price performance ratio unless u want to bicker with this then post ure scores for the feature test with a fair cpu/ram comparison.. so it doesnt influence the results too much.

the arguement here is the pro vs the gts.
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yeah ..well we wont knw untill the reatial samples re arriveing .. hus got one.. pls bench adn post screenies pls
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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Sep 29 2007, 02:46 PM)
well i mentioned atis performe less ( i didnt mention by how much) well in real world... well if ur talking bout performanc : price ratio then im in a limbo...

VODOO ftw tongue.gif  wub.gif  wub.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
yeah ..well we wont knw untill the reatial samples re arriveing .. hus got one.. pls bench adn post screenies pls
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yup actually u all should be talking about the hd2950pro.. thats the thing thats got me excited..
not some cheap lame tactic to get rid of their stocks hd2900pro
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 29 2007, 03:44 PM)
thats the way.. see finally some sense..somebody that will prove it.
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bro its not that i dont want to prove it.. i just don have to resources to get the card or teh time to bench at the moment.. i wont be free untill end of january.. blardy skoo life sucks.. lolz.. but ill do keep up with reviews so when i return back into benching .. i wont be lost and dont go woah , we got octa core di ? tongue.gif lolz

btw i use a tnt riva 64 whne benching.. lolz... TNT for the win.. aslo have a radeon 9550 pci based.. and an ati rage max pulled form a apple g3

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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Sep 29 2007, 02:48 PM)
bro its not that i dont want to prove it.. i just don have to resources to get the card or teh time to bench at the moment.. i wont be free untill end of january.. blardy skoo life sucks.. lolz.. but ill do keep up with reviews so when i return back into benching .. i wont be lost and dont go woah , we got octa core di ? tongue.gif lolz
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kekek so far the HR03 on the GTs is nothing short but amazing.. idle at 49/ load around 56 on OCED overclock.. running ati tools artifact scan already 11 hours 23 minutes... no aircon. heck no room fan also.. and all this is in my casing..
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Just asking,when will it be on sale in malaysia?early november?
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QUOTE(dkcc87 @ Sep 29 2007, 02:54 PM)
Just asking,when will it be on sale in malaysia?early november?
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nah by end of the month or early next month.. thats what my supplier said..

end of november /early december expecting the 2950 pro

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wah lolhalol and ctskl on a verge there...
anyways, i never really stand on 3dmarks bench
cuz its always been the fact that the graphics cards makers (ati and nvidia) they pay futuremark to up the ante for their cards in this test and that test
this was reported i think a year or two ago

the same goes for games
like fear, it likes nvidia more
the same goes for oblivion
and as for half life 2, it likes ati

better bench on quake 4, far cry, lost planet (the best)
try ur cards on lost planet
that'll be the in thing

btw, 2950 pro is coming either november or the latest early december
tapi it still wont be that cheap
but price aint what we are concerned if the performance is really on par with its publications...what more with the DX10.1 and all
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 29 2007, 04:28 PM)
the same goes for games
like fear, it likes nvidia more
the same goes for oblivion
and as for half life 2, it likes ati

better bench on quake 4, far cry, lost planet (the best)
try ur cards on lost planet
that'll be the in thing
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Yay Lost Planet, an nVidia whored out title is THE benchmark for DX10! (Unbelievable) rolleyes.gif

Oblivion likes the new ATI because of shader power BTW.

As for DX10/Driver improvements on the HD2XXX, I think this post will explain it the most:
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showpost.php?p...13&postcount=61

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