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post Jun 18 2022, 12:28 AM, updated 4y ago

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Hi, I am one of the EM owners who feel cheated by developer.

THE DEVELOPER IS ECO MAJESTIC (ECOWORLD BHD)


Bought mellowood last phase back lane @ nearly RM1mil that is supposed to be facing concrete perimeter fencing, but developer ended up giving cheap fencing instead... our group has been trying to reach out to as many media companies to make our grievances known, would sincerely appreciate if any one from media can help us out on this, and if anyone can give advice on what can be done.

So far they are denying any responsibilities and implying that their marketing materials do not represent the end product, my blood was boiling





https://www.facebook.com/nopagar/videos/966462337361458/

https://worldofbuzz.com/developer-accused-o...2D9Idve3wVJr868


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plan some trees
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post Jun 18 2022, 01:35 AM

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Horishiet..fencing mcm low cost housing..
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post Jun 18 2022, 01:46 AM

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Good luck to those guys fighting against an experienced developer
They can do worse shit and get away with it

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post Jun 18 2022, 07:30 AM

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TS, please post this post in this thread here;

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5173691

Many of Eco Majestic house owners have discussion in that thread.

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post Jun 18 2022, 10:34 AM

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Pity the owners..
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post Jun 18 2022, 10:38 AM

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Happened for many developments… I bought one high end project from SunWxx…. In their marketing brochure also shown concrete fencing… end up used cheap anti climb fencing 🤦🤦🤦
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post Jun 18 2022, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Jun 18 2022, 07:30 AM)
TS, please post this post in this thread here;

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5173691

Many of Eco Majestic house owners have discussion in that thread.
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One of the overrated developer in market… charge super high selling price… left nothing to buyers in term of capital appreciations… most of their projects need to sell in loses in subsales …. Even their own staffs also difficult to make profit with special staff discount ..zzzzz
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QUOTE(bigman @ Jun 18 2022, 10:38 AM)
Happened for many developments… I bought one high end project from SunWxx…. In their marketing brochure also shown concrete fencing… end up used cheap anti climb fencing 🤦🤦🤦
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post Jun 18 2022, 11:14 AM

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I must say that the fancy fencing instantly makes the house more premium looking.


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post Jun 18 2022, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Jun 18 2022, 11:14 AM)
I must say that the fancy fencing instantly makes the house more premium looking.
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the "atas" feeling...
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post Jun 18 2022, 01:57 PM

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All people outside can see you wash car at car porch. Plant more trees and bushes
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post Jun 18 2022, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Onetwothreeeee @ Jun 18 2022, 01:57 PM)
All people outside can see you wash car at car porch. Plant more trees and bushes
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You can't. It's a strata property.

Plant any trees that is not within common area landscaping, we as JMB/MC will happily come and remove.


This is why the concrete fencing is important.
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QUOTE(outpace @ Jun 18 2022, 01:19 AM)
plan some trees
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QUOTE(Onetwothreeeee @ Jun 18 2022, 01:57 PM)
All people outside can see you wash car at car porch. Plant more trees and bushes
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In strata poorperly, no one could plant any tree, bush or rock without permission from jmc/MC.

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post Jun 18 2022, 04:31 PM

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Must buy from only top developer
They won't run away biggrin.gif
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post Jun 18 2022, 06:20 PM

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Quick question: the original video of promising “istana style fencing”, is it from developer official channel or from sales agent? Coz it will make big difference in this case.
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tered ke berapa daaa...

any marketing broucher is not the final product, look at disclaimer

just to add, any items that are not included in the s&p buy confirmed by air liur by your sales agent also no use...

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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jun 18 2022, 02:07 PM)
You can't. It's a strata property.

Plant any trees that is not within common area landscaping, we as JMB/MC will happily come and remove.
This is why the concrete fencing is important.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 18 2022, 02:34 PM)
In strata poorperly, no one could plant any tree, bush or rock without permission from jmc/MC.
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If really matters, easy, be the jmb or mc, then collect fund to do it.. But if want it from developer, have to start pushing it now i guess...
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QUOTE(Sir_Jim @ Jun 18 2022, 07:32 PM)
If really matters, easy, be the jmb or mc, then collect fund to do it.. But if want it from developer, have to start pushing it now i guess...
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If one realize how much is spent on landscaping, many residents will object to spend more.
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Need to check if brochures or marketing material what kind of fence is represented there, if not shown, no chance, if got show, even though not stated in SPA explicitly, you guys can still take the developer to civil court or go to arbitration for misleading advertisement, especially that this housing project is under HDA.

I happen to have this experience, the developer presented alot of greens (vertical garden) in brochures that was not handover in satisfactory condition to us buyers, amongst other things like garden gazebo etc.
We managed to forced the developer to fulfill some before we get to arbitrator, end up still not fully like brochure but the experience tells us there's merit to take on the developer base on their marketing presentations.

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post Jun 18 2022, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Jun 18 2022, 09:25 PM)
Need to check if brochures or marketing material what kind of fence is represented there, if not shown, no chance, if got show, even though not stated in SPA explicitly, you guys can still take the developer to civil court or go to arbitration for misleading advertisement, especially that this housing project is under HDA.

I happen to have this experience, the developer presented alot of greens (vertical garden) in brochures that was not handover in satisfactory condition to us buyers, amongst other things like garden gazebo etc.
We managed to forced the developer to fulfill some before we get to arbitrator, end up still not fully like brochure but the experience tells us there's merit to take on the developer base on their marketing presentations.
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Hi. Need advise. You went through a lawyer to file a case on the landscaping? We are facing the similar problem as well.
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QUOTE(soulred777 @ Jun 18 2022, 09:51 PM)
Hi. Need advise. You went through a lawyer to file a case on the landscaping? We are facing the similar problem as well.
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Which project is that??
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post Jun 20 2022, 11:09 AM

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It is very hard to fight a case for anything which is not stipulated in the SPA. Developer might or might not give in at their will. Therefore, get this case to be exposed as many media as possible whereby the developer's branding is at stake. I am sure that if the developer care about their future earnings then they will be more willing to part a small sum of money to make present house buyers to be happy
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fence is not the huge issue there

wait till u guys come in and stay & experience the -

1. chicken manure smell
2. palm oil processing smell
3. chicken feeds production smell - rotten fish smell
4. plastic burnt smell

developers did nothing & just let the folks there live with the pollution

info taken from SCAI semenyih clean air initiative eco majestic whatsap group

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QUOTE(SebastianYong @ Jun 20 2022, 06:51 PM)
fence is not the huge issue there

wait till u guys come in and stay & experience the -

1. chicken manure smell
2. palm oil processing smell
3. chicken feeds production smell - rotten fish smell
4. plastic burnt smell

developers did nothing & just let the folks there live with the pollution

info taken from SCAI semenyih clean air initiative eco majestic whatsap group

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After 10-20 years, you'll get used to it already. Can also market as comfortable kampung living

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QUOTE(SebastianYong @ Jun 20 2022, 06:51 PM)
fence is not the huge issue there

wait till u guys come in and stay & experience the -

1. chicken manure smell
2. palm oil processing smell
3. chicken feeds production smell - rotten fish smell
4. plastic burnt smell

developers did nothing & just let the folks there live with the pollution

info taken from SCAI semenyih clean air initiative eco majestic whatsap group

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How can developer do anything about this anyway? Go buy up all farm and manufacture plant ke?

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QUOTE(Onetwothreeeee @ Jun 20 2022, 10:19 PM)
How can developer do anything about this anyway? Go buy up all farm and manufacture plant ke?
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That's why you have to make a few trips to the site at different times of the day/night before you commit to buy. Once signed and paid deposit, its too late.

Can the smells be smelt from all the development or just the phases closest to the farms/factories
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QUOTE(PAChamp @ Jun 21 2022, 09:28 AM)
That's why you have to make a few trips to the site at different times of the day/night before you commit to buy. Once signed and paid deposit, its too late.

Can the smells be smelt from all the development or just the phases closest to the farms/factories
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chicken feeds smell is very strong & apparently covers the whole EM reaching other areas (found the source but unfortunately they are allowed to operate even during midnight till mornig)

plastic burnt smell also quite bad (source of pollution unknown still but we know there are several plastic recycle factories just beside EM)

SCAI kind of already gave up fighting for the pollution there, those who are well-able already moved out and rent or sell, others just lived with it by shutting the whole house tight
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some folks even not sure where to find help till go & comment on EM fb post before this.
Now mostly complain in group or rather reporting in group about the smell

For those who are deciding, survey/research first ya before making decision smile.gif
Also don't swallow my words entirely, do own research to check also

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QUOTE(SebastianYong @ Jun 21 2022, 12:59 PM)
chicken feeds smell is very strong & apparently covers the whole EM reaching other areas (found the source but unfortunately they are allowed to operate even during midnight till mornig)

plastic burnt smell also quite bad (source of pollution unknown still but we know there are several plastic recycle factories just beside EM)

SCAI kind of already gave up fighting for the pollution there, those who are well-able already moved out and rent or sell, others just lived with it by shutting the whole house tight
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Although I loved the design of mellowood previously, glad I passed it. tq for the info.
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QUOTE(PAChamp @ Jun 21 2022, 09:28 AM)
That's why you have to make a few trips to the site at different times of the day/night before you commit to buy. Once signed and paid deposit, its too late.

Can the smells be smelt from all the development or just the phases closest to the farms/factories
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U will be surprised that a lot of Malaysian simply purchase house without checking the surrounding area that they will live in the future

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QUOTE(Alternate Gabriel @ Jun 21 2022, 02:04 PM)
U will be surprised that a lot of Malaysian simply purchase house without checking the surrounding area that they will live in the future
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I’m more surprised and kennot brain how some people can stay so far when they work in kl/pj. Travel 1-2 hours one way just to go office rclxub.gif
Istana style landed really so nice?
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QUOTE(SebastianYong @ Jun 21 2022, 01:09 PM)
some folks even not sure where to find help till go & comment on EM fb post before this.
Now mostly complain in group or rather reporting in group about the smell

For those who are deciding, survey/research first ya before making decision  smile.gif
Also don't swallow my words entirely, do own research to check also

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Ecohill is also affected by the smell?
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QUOTE(Onetwothreeeee @ Jun 21 2022, 03:03 PM)
I’m more surprised and kennot brain how some people can stay so far when they work in kl/pj. Travel 1-2 hours one way just to go office  rclxub.gif
Istana style landed really so nice?
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Nowadays very hard to find a house to stay and able to reach office in 10 to 20 minutes, is possible but you need to pay more for the house price. right?
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QUOTE(lionking7791 @ Jun 21 2022, 04:04 PM)
Nowadays very hard to find a house to stay and able to reach office in 10 to 20 minutes, is possible but you need to pay more for the house price. right?
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if you don't mind subsale houses at mature neighborhoods/townships, you can get those within 20-45 minutes, also depends on where exactly you work. And the price of the landed properties is more or less similar to those 1-2 hours away, or may be even cheaper.

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QUOTE(jolmy @ Jun 21 2022, 04:06 PM)
if you don't mind subsale houses at mature neighborhoods/townships, you can get those within 20-45 minutes, also depends on where exactly you work. And the price of the landed properties is more or less similar to those 1-2 hours away, or may be even cheaper.
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Yes, if you don't mind the subsales and you want to able reach your work location within 1 hour, this is only choice. But for subsales, you need to fork out more cash, for example, downpayment, S&P legal fees, loan legal fees, MOT and etc.
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QUOTE(SebastianYong @ Jun 20 2022, 06:51 PM)
fence is not the huge issue there

wait till u guys come in and stay & experience the -

1. chicken manure smell
2. palm oil processing smell
3. chicken feeds production smell - rotten fish smell
4. plastic burnt smell

developers did nothing & just let the folks there live with the pollution

info taken from SCAI semenyih clean air initiative eco majestic whatsap group

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Developer on build and sell house ba
how is it in their scope to control the pollution outside of their taman.

yeah- if they don't control, their houses wont sell well.. But you can never fault them lack of effort to control pollution nearby?

That is the role of DOE, and also town planning.
and yes- buyer is responsible to do survey first.


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QUOTE(Onetwothreeeee @ Jun 21 2022, 03:03 PM)
I’m more surprised and kennot brain how some people can stay so far when they work in kl/pj. Travel 1-2 hours one way just to go office  rclxub.gif
Istana style landed really so nice?
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You think offices only in KL? There is plenty of people buying into this project and work in nearby gov agencies and trainings sites in Bangi or working in Cyberjaya

The world is not only revolved around KL anymore
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QUOTE(Onetwothreeeee @ Jun 21 2022, 03:03 PM)
I’m more surprised and kennot brain how some people can stay so far when they work in kl/pj. Travel 1-2 hours one way just to go office  rclxub.gif
Istana style landed really so nice?
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jun 21 2022, 05:35 PM)
You think offices only in KL? There is plenty of people buying into this project and work in nearby gov agencies and trainings sites in Bangi or working in Cyberjaya

The world is not only revolved around KL anymore
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consumer always lose in this country
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QUOTE(Walaohahaha @ Jun 21 2022, 07:15 PM)
u complaint in lowyat forum here useless, u all need to bring a big banner and demonstrate infront of their eco majestic show gallery EVERY WEEKEND, then they baru will feel scare.
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This comment powerful. I agree….
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QUOTE(Walaohahaha @ Jun 21 2022, 07:15 PM)
u complaint in lowyat forum here useless, u all need to bring a big banner and demonstrate infront of their eco majestic show gallery EVERY WEEKEND, then they baru will feel scare.
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Let me guess, only a handful of owners will turnup if really demonstration. biggrin.gif People enjoy to complaint in lyn and social media so that other people can help to curse online together. If needs to spend own effort and complaint one, normally not many will take part. laugh.gif
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some people wanna complain,
while some other don't want this to be shown too obvious causing them to malu, and property value drop
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There are a few points need to be clear before any next course of action.

1. SPA or Sales and Purchase Agreement between Purchaser and Developer in this case should be a standard agreement following KPKT HDA article. It does not mention anything about the landscape/perimeter fencing in relation to your parcel/unit. The major Black and White document to be referred. Housing Tribunal which was established under the purview of HDA shall only facilitate complaints in relation to clauses established/described in the SPA. Hence, personal opinion this SPA only cant provide any specific ground for your claim.

2. Secondly, any "official" marketing materials even with/without disclaimer, showing any view/shoots/description of the "fencing" is the main issue now. To go further, only official marketing material shall be utilized as the proof for your claims, anyhow there are precedent case that marketing materials by developer shall be in binding but its done at court level in which time and monetary cost would be a major concern.

3. Developer branding. That is the hardest part to quantify and should be your current best resort to level up your complaints.

Above all are just personal opinion.
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if it is via law/legal- no choice.
am sure EW will conver their SnP proper. Sales broucher and promotional video wont be a strong case against them, since there is a disclaimer,

the only way out is EW want to prevent their image being tarnish- lets see la. i guess EW had forseen this when they decide to "cheat" the buyer ( saying it extreme)- and had planned their way out.
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QUOTE(Onetwothreeeee @ Jun 21 2022, 05:45 PM)
Open eyes big big please
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Maybe they plan to change work nearby in the future or nearing retirement - we will never know

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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Jun 18 2022, 09:25 PM)
Need to check if brochures or marketing material what kind of fence is represented there, if not shown, no chance, if got show, even though not stated in SPA explicitly, you guys can still take the developer to civil court or go to arbitration for misleading advertisement, especially that this housing project is under HDA.

I happen to have this experience, the developer presented alot of greens (vertical garden) in brochures that was not handover in satisfactory condition to us buyers, amongst other things like garden gazebo etc.
We managed to forced the developer to fulfill some before we get to arbitrator, end up still not fully like brochure but the experience tells us there's merit to take on the developer base on their marketing presentations.
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Thanks for sharing.
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QUOTE(Onetwothreeeee @ Jun 20 2022, 10:19 PM)
How can developer do anything about this anyway? Go buy up all farm and manufacture plant ke?
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Disclose this clearly in all marketing brochure - after all - doctors are required to disclose all associated risks to patients seeking treatment from them - I see no reason why developers can’t be forthcoming about all the downsides of their projects?
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the fencing are completed and i saw there are many trees outside the fencing

tall enough to cover the fancing so from view outside still istana style

i think this is the answer given from EM
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Really feel pity to the buyers. Always tot ECOworld is better than other developers...mana tau same oso doh.gif
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This is not the only EW project that starts to cheap out on fencing material though , Eco Forest Hazelton phase we noticed they started building up chicken fence on most of the perimeter. And we got to know only the front entrance will be using 'istana style' fencing. ... gg
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QUOTE(007SMH @ Jun 23 2022, 08:48 PM)
This is not the only EW project that starts to cheap out on fencing material though , Eco Forest Hazelton phase we noticed they started building up chicken fence on most of the perimeter. And we got to know only the front entrance will be using 'istana style' fencing. ... gg
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This is what value re-engineering to save cost amounts to. Unless it's stated B&W in the S&P, then good luck to the buyers 😊
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If you snap picture of the model in their sales gallery, that could also be an evidence of what is offered in the package …

Most of them will write the “for illustration purpose” however it is debatable how far the illustration from the reality …

Wall becomes fence are beyond “illustration” variance … …
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Guys, if you want, i have lawyer friend who may be willing to take up the case.
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jun 26 2022, 04:38 PM)
If you snap picture of the model in their sales gallery, that could also be an evidence of what is offered in the package …

Most of them will write the “for illustration purpose” however it is debatable how far the illustration from the reality …

Wall becomes fence are beyond “illustration” variance … …
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Fence is a fence in terms of functionality. Design is always subjective. Imagine people suing each other if a daikin air cond is delivered instead of Panasonic, or if the wall color is not the same as illustration. At this rate, developer will all go bankrupt
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QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Jun 27 2022, 12:51 PM)
Fence is a fence in terms of functionality. Design is always subjective. Imagine people suing each other if a daikin air cond is delivered instead of Panasonic, or if the wall color is not the same as illustration. At this rate, developer will all go bankrupt
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Analogy salah. It’s 2hp Aircon advertised, delivered 1hp. Both also Aircon ma what’s the problem?
But it’s ok got some people can accept, like you lol
Developer thank you.
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post Jun 27 2022, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Jun 27 2022, 01:23 PM)
Analogy salah. It’s 2hp Aircon advertised, delivered 1hp. Both also Aircon ma what’s the problem?
But it’s ok got some people can accept, like you lol
Developer thank you.
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Good luck in your legal claim
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post Jun 27 2022, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(Alternate Gabriel @ Jun 21 2022, 02:04 PM)
U will be surprised that a lot of Malaysian simply purchase house without checking the surrounding area that they will live in the future
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Eversince LEKAS was completed, every time I drove past the Pajam exit, I wonder how the people boleh tahan living in that area.

Referring to the houses on both sides of LEKAS, developed by Seri Pajam.

Just didn't know the smell could reach as far as EM.
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post Jun 28 2022, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Jun 27 2022, 09:26 PM)
Good luck in your legal claim
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The purchasers thank you for your well wishes.

I notice every time these issues come up there’s always a big dose of schadenfreude.
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Jun 27 2022, 10:34 PM)
Eversince LEKAS was completed, every time I drove past the Pajam exit, I wonder how the people boleh tahan living in that area.

Referring to the houses on both sides of LEKAS, developed by Seri Pajam.

Just didn't know the smell could reach as far as EM.
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Relax, before this equine park also same, but now booming bro.
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post Jun 28 2022, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Jun 27 2022, 09:34 PM)
Eversince LEKAS was completed, every time I drove past the Pajam exit, I wonder how the people boleh tahan living in that area.

Referring to the houses on both sides of LEKAS, developed by Seri Pajam.

Just didn't know the smell could reach as far as EM.
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Oh Seri Pajam pollution hardly reach EM. that's just small 'bei si' biggrin.gif

At EM, we have our very own KFC broiler farm, Buffalo farm, feedmills production center & not forgetting around the plastic recycle or production area that have been giving out mysterious smoke at night (visible from the EM apartments high levels). thumbsup.gif

All within 1km biggrin.gif

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The 'Istana' style fencing creates the 'Atas' feeling.


 

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