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TSlowpro
post Jun 17 2022, 09:00 AM, updated 2y ago

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Anyone interested in this upcoming model? I wonder if MForce have any plans to bring this in. As it is, they have started with the ADV bikes already plus the naked version of this bike. They have also brought in and started selling Moto Morini...but there is little news about this, the Benelli 600 sport bike or QJ SRG600 (whichever name suits your fancy).

https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto/two-wh...obox=1655262405

What's your thoughts on China made bikes? And those with collaborations with Euro brands?

Would this be better if branded QJ or Benelli in Malaysia?

Do you expect a lower price than the Japanese bikes in the same range? If yes, by how much?

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ascension278
post Jun 17 2022, 09:18 AM

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Im interested in the Inline 4 SRK 600 and also the upcoming CFmoto 450SR...
TSlowpro
post Jun 17 2022, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(ascension278 @ Jun 17 2022, 09:18 AM)
Im interested in the Inline 4 SRK 600 and also the upcoming CFmoto 450SR...
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Funny you should mention the 450SR. I have the same exact thoughts! Depending on the price, I might consider taking one of these as I already have a naked bike...
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post Jun 17 2022, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jun 17 2022, 09:22 AM)
Funny you should mention the 450SR. I have the same exact thoughts! Depending on the price, I might consider taking one of these as I already have a naked bike...
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I screenshot this one too,

so will have history on what you want to get.
TSlowpro
post Jun 17 2022, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jun 17 2022, 02:55 PM)
I screenshot this one too,

so will have history on what you want to get.
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Don't forget the China Harley in the Cruiser thread as well! biggrin.gif
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post Jun 19 2022, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jun 17 2022, 10:00 AM)
Anyone interested in this upcoming model? I wonder if MForce have any plans to bring this in. As it is, they have started with the ADV bikes already plus the naked version of this bike. They have also brought in and started selling Moto Morini...but there is little news about this, the Benelli 600 sport bike or QJ SRG600 (whichever name suits your fancy).

https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto/two-wh...obox=1655262405

What's your thoughts on China made bikes? And those with collaborations with Euro brands?

Would this be better if branded QJ or Benelli in Malaysia?

Do you expect a lower price than the Japanese bikes in the same range? If yes, by how much?
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TNT600 with fairing.

Had a TNT600 as a daily driver for a few years. Had no issues. Could see that they've come a long way to catch up in most areas.... except weight. For a 600cc naked, it was a rather porky little bastard and this is where you kind of feel that they haven't quite reached the same level as the Japs who would outcompete each other shaving milimeters and grams here and there all over the bike.

This struggle with weight control can be seen in QJ's ADV attempts starting with the TRK502, asking 46 horses to haul some 235kg of bike.

The new ADV is not based on the 600cc engine, but the 270-deg crank 2-cylinder lump of the 752S. I hear it's heavier still, but at least there's more power to haul ass. So if you're OK with handling R1200GS-class weight, then go for it.
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post Jun 22 2022, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jun 19 2022, 12:32 AM)
TNT600 with fairing.

Had a TNT600 as a daily driver for a few years. Had no issues. Could see that they've come a long way to catch up in most areas.... except weight. For a 600cc naked, it was a rather porky little bastard and this is where you kind of feel that they haven't quite reached the same level as the Japs who would outcompete each other shaving milimeters and grams here and there all over the bike.

This struggle with weight control can be seen in QJ's ADV attempts starting with the TRK502, asking 46 horses to haul some 235kg of bike.

The new ADV is not based on the 600cc engine, but the 270-deg crank 2-cylinder lump of the 752S. I hear it's heavier still, but at least there's more power to haul ass. So if you're OK with handling R1200GS-class weight, then go for it.
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Between the Honda CBR650R and the SRG600

Engine capacity
CBR650R = 549cc
SRG600 = 600cc ?

Weight
CBR650R = 206kg
SRG600 = 213kg

Power
CBR650R = 95bhp
SRG600 = 86bhp

Torque
CBR650R = 63Nm
SRG600 = 56Nm

Seat height
CBR650R = 810mm
SRG600 = 800mm

Then there are the other important questions of price, service centres, spare part prices etc... and to a certain extent (though not for me) fuel economy.

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TSlowpro
post Dec 23 2022, 02:48 PM

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Anyone has insider info with the importers on this model? Any idea if coming in?

https://pandulaju.com.my/qjmotor-naik-taraf...lebih-berkuasa/
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post Dec 23 2022, 07:30 PM

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Benelli and QJ Motor are both under the same company why need to put different brand hmm.gif
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post Dec 26 2022, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Dec 23 2022, 07:30 PM)
Benelli and QJ Motor are both under the same company why need to put different brand hmm.gif
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Because people shy away when they hear Qian Jiang motor, the name just doesn't appeal outside of China market.
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post Dec 27 2022, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(chantakzee @ Dec 26 2022, 02:57 PM)
Because people shy away when they hear Qian Jiang motor, the name just doesn't appeal outside of China market.
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Looking at current Benelli lineup I think mostly just QJ rebadge except the leoncino
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post Dec 28 2022, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Dec 27 2022, 09:24 PM)
Looking at current Benelli lineup I think mostly just QJ rebadge except the leoncino
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And probably the imperiale too. Brand power is important when they want to do export.
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post Dec 29 2022, 07:19 PM

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I saw 1st gen TNT600 pass by in red and gold rim with free flow exhaust.. still a good-looking bike for your Taman area or commuting.. but just don't bring it to Karak these days.. Polis, JPJ, JAS with Anthony will be looking for you guys...
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post Dec 29 2022, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Dec 29 2022, 07:19 PM)
I saw 1st gen TNT600 pass by in red and gold rim with free flow exhaust.. still a good-looking bike for your Taman area or commuting.. but just don't bring it to Karak these days.. Polis, JPJ, JAS  with Anthony will be looking for you guys...
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I really like TNT600 design that put dual exhaust above the rear tire.. looks like SRK600 ditched that design. Too bad
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jun 17 2022, 09:22 AM)
Funny you should mention the 450SR. I have the same exact thoughts! Depending on the price, I might consider taking one of these as I already have a naked bike...
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That 450SR sure looks interesting. 49hp and 168kg curb weight. Looks good though.

Only problem is price @29k. Puts it up there with the older 650GT
with only a few K price difference but u get a more torquey engine and better touring potential with standard shad panniers and a more relaxed riding position.

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post Jul 8 2023, 12:41 AM

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Looks like they have upgraded the SRK 600 model with brembo brakes now?

Wonder if they gonna bring this one in malaysia, think this headlight look prettier


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post Jul 8 2023, 04:07 PM

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I am ignoring all motorcycles distributed in Malaysia by M Force, am I alone on this?
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post Jul 8 2023, 04:56 PM

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Dont think you are alone.. they certainly need to build up their reputation sweat.gif
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post Jul 8 2023, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Jul 8 2023, 04:56 PM)
Dont think you are alone.. they certainly need to build up their reputation  sweat.gif
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It's not that.

The problem lies with the absurd amount of new models churned out every year, and M Force holding to so many brands.

Can they or do they have the resources to keep parts and service them?

I figure it needs a few more years to see how MForce and it's dealers performs. Looks like you would probably be on your own to source parts. Even proton has trouble with spares... What more M Force.

Tempting bikes. Just not that much confidence with MForce.
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post Jul 8 2023, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Jul 8 2023, 05:56 PM)
Dont think you are alone.. they certainly need to build up their reputation  sweat.gif
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Good to know, I thought I have missed out something

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