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TSmystvearn
post May 31 2022, 08:57 AM, updated 4y ago

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I just bought a Honda adv 150 and need additional storage. Requirements:
Can store 1 full face helmet of passenger.
Will use it to fill groceries most of the time.
If got back rest, better but I can just buy the one which can stick on it.

Which rack and box to get? Plastic or alloy? What size?
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post May 31 2022, 09:26 AM

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givi e43ntl-adv. it fits all of ur criteria. bought mine for rm377 on shopee last year. now it's 400+ already.
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post May 31 2022, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ May 31 2022, 08:57 AM)
I just bought a Honda adv 150 and need additional storage. Requirements:
Can store 1 full face helmet of passenger.
Will use it to fill groceries most of the time.
If got back rest, better but I can just buy the one which can stick on it.

Which rack and box to get? Plastic or alloy? What size?
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I'm using Givi's SRV-ADV150 rack coupled with plastic E43NTL-ADV Box.

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post May 31 2022, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(xswatch @ May 31 2022, 10:26 AM)
givi e43ntl-adv. it fits all of ur criteria. bought mine for rm377 on shopee last year. now it's 400+ already.
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Been using that box on my Honda PCX since 2018. Can't imagine settling for something else, could have been disastrous (if smaller than the 43 litre one).
TSmystvearn
post May 31 2022, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(xswatch @ May 31 2022, 09:26 AM)
givi e43ntl-adv. it fits all of ur criteria. bought mine for rm377 on shopee last year. now it's 400+ already.
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What rack?

QUOTE(nyt3s @ May 31 2022, 09:37 AM)
I'm using Givi's SRV-ADV150 rack coupled with plastic E43NTL-ADV Box.
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Where you bought? Rack can support how many kg?

QUOTE(BlackBananaV6 @ May 31 2022, 09:39 AM)
Been using that box on my Honda PCX since 2018. Can't imagine settling for something else, could have been disastrous (if smaller than the 43 litre one).
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Why disastrous?

Where to buy?
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post May 31 2022, 03:27 PM

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I found this. Fake aluminium box. ABS box that kinda looks like aluminium. Cons of aluminium box is that it is heavy. ABS box much lighter. If you see top rack from givi, swomotech etc most will state weight limit of 3kg/5kg/10kg including case&luggage. So most box alone will be close or exceed the rated weight. In actuality ihe rack can handle more but they absolve any responsibility if the rack breaks under load.

https://shopee.com.my/product/132531093/120...73-1653981933.9

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post May 31 2022, 07:11 PM

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I went with the slightly larger B45NM as i needed somethjng to fit 2 full face/modular helmets.. very happy so far
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QUOTE(Flyinghighaero @ May 31 2022, 03:27 PM)
I found this. Fake aluminium box. ABS box that kinda looks like aluminium. Cons of aluminium box is that it is heavy. ABS box much lighter. If you see top rack from givi, swomotech etc most will state weight limit of 3kg/5kg/10kg including case&luggage. So most box alone will be close or exceed the rated weight. In actuality ihe rack can handle more but they absolve any responsibility if the rack breaks under load.

https://shopee.com.my/product/132531093/120...73-1653981933.9
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Interesting. Got abs which looks like aluminium
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post May 31 2022, 09:51 PM

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Just wondering, is there a pillion bag (like this food panda bag) which can be locked and secure on the pillion seat?

I only need to use it from time to time. So not sure want full top box.
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post Jun 1 2022, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ May 31 2022, 09:51 PM)
Just wondering, is there a pillion bag (like this food panda bag) which can be locked and secure on the pillion seat?

I only need to use it from time to time. So not sure want full top box.
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Food panda bag are huge. Most bikers use tail bag. Small bag strapped to the pillion seat. It goes as large as to fit a helmet.

Myself I use givi tank lock system and they do sell pillion seat adaptor to put your bag on the seat. Their bags are mighty expensive. So I made myself the adaptor and bigger bag from parts from aliexpress.

Givi seatlock
https://shopee.com.my/product/125781637/277...73-1654075689.9

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post Jun 1 2022, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(Flyinghighaero @ Jun 1 2022, 05:28 PM)
Food panda bag are huge. Most bikers use tail bag. Small bag strapped to the pillion seat. It goes as large as to fit a helmet.

Myself I use givi tank lock system and they do sell pillion seat adaptor to put your bag on the seat. Their bags are mighty expensive. So I made myself the adaptor and bigger bag from parts from aliexpress.

Givi seatlock
https://shopee.com.my/product/125781637/277...73-1654075689.9

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I see. So sacrifice passenger space. Is there an easy clip on/off kind of top box? Maybe shad?
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post Jun 2 2022, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Jun 1 2022, 05:35 PM)
I see. So sacrifice passenger space. Is there an easy clip on/off kind of top box? Maybe shad?
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Most branded top box are easy to clip on and off. I have been known to bring my top box into my hotel room.
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post Jun 2 2022, 05:29 AM

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QUOTE(Flyinghighaero @ Jun 2 2022, 12:33 AM)
Most branded top box are easy to clip on and off. I have been known to bring my top box into my hotel room.
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Good to know

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post Jun 2 2022, 01:29 PM

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Sorry to hijack thread, but I am contemplating getting a box for my ADV as well. Other than the 43L box already mentioned above, are there any smaller Givi top boxes that can fit a full face helmet?

My concern is mainly the added drag of the larger box and if it will affect highway speed travel. So I plan to look for as small a box as possible that can fit my HJC CS15.
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post Jun 2 2022, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Flyinghighaero @ May 31 2022, 03:27 PM)
I found this. Fake aluminium box. ABS box that kinda looks like aluminium. Cons of aluminium box is that it is heavy. ABS box much lighter. If you see top rack from givi, swomotech etc most will state weight limit of 3kg/5kg/10kg including case&luggage. So most box alone will be close or exceed the rated weight. In actuality ihe rack can handle more but they absolve any responsibility if the rack breaks under load.

https://shopee.com.my/product/132531093/120...73-1653981933.9
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Indeed, alu boxes are heavy. But they do look good on a more "rugged" looking bike like the 150ADV. But I still prefer the cheaper givi monolock cases because they are much easier to take on or off.

And most rear racks only have a load rating of 10kg. So it is almost impossible not to exceed that weight.

If choosing a rack, find those with additional braces that mount to the rearsets. At least they have 2 additional points to support the load. Almost everyone i know with a tail rack that only mounts to the grab handle mounts eventually bend all the mounting bolts.

For the 150ADV, the more angular Antartica 42L box looks more suitable and really cheap. I bought mine from shopee for 240bux. The 43NTL ADV is wider and bigger. But also much more expensive. There is this new B45 top case that is supposely cheaper than the 43NTL.

QUOTE(mystvearn @ May 31 2022, 09:51 PM)
Just wondering, is there a pillion bag (like this food panda bag) which can be locked and secure on the pillion seat?

I only need to use it from time to time. So not sure want full top box.
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They do make tail racks for you to fit a grabfood bag. Its fairly unsightly and ghetto though.



On a sidenote, does anyone know who sell givi 3 pcs replacement locksets? I just want to change my panniers and topbox to use the same key.



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post Jun 2 2022, 02:53 PM

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Sorry to hijack this tered, but anybody used shad 58x/59x? Plan to store helmet and if possible riding jacket since I don't want to go into office wearing jacket like some bigshot rider. Lol.
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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Jun 2 2022, 01:29 PM)
Sorry to hijack thread, but I am contemplating getting a box for my ADV as well. Other than the 43L box already mentioned above, are there any smaller Givi top boxes that can fit a full face helmet?

My concern is mainly the added drag of the larger box and if it will affect highway speed travel. So I plan to look for as small a box as possible that can fit my HJC CS15.
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Tell me what you get, with which rack as well.

QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jun 2 2022, 02:22 PM)
Indeed, alu boxes are heavy. But they do look good on a more "rugged" looking bike like the 150ADV. But I still prefer the cheaper givi monolock cases because they are much easier to take on or off.

And most rear racks only have a load rating of 10kg. So it is almost impossible not to exceed that weight.

If choosing a rack, find those with additional braces that mount to the rearsets. At least they have 2 additional points to support the load. Almost everyone i know with a tail rack that only mounts to the grab handle mounts eventually bend all the mounting bolts.

For the 150ADV, the more angular Antartica 42L box looks more suitable and really cheap. I bought mine from shopee for 240bux. The 43NTL ADV is wider and bigger. But also much more expensive. There is this new B45 top case that is supposely cheaper than the 43NTL.
They do make tail racks for you to fit a grabfood bag. Its fairly unsightly and ghetto though.
On a sidenote, does anyone know who sell givi 3 pcs replacement locksets? I just want to change my panniers and topbox to use the same key.
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The problem with big topbox for 2 helmet is that the ADV rack is not suitable for the amount of weight. Shad makes 10kg, Givi only makes 5 kg. Though I would not want the top box to be heavy, alloy, since that is weight without the contents. Once you get 43L box, tempting to put cargo like 10 kg rice in there since there is space and then people will forget that it is rated up to 10kg including the box. I was thinking somewhere along the 32L adventure or 34L monoblock box.

What rack are you currently using for your top box (which model)?

QUOTE(genesiscopy @ Jun 2 2022, 02:53 PM)
Sorry to hijack this tered, but anybody used shad 58x/59x? Plan to store helmet and if possible riding jacket since I don't want to go into office wearing jacket like some bigshot rider. Lol.
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Was looking at Shad as well. Rack has 10kg rating. Givi only 5 kg.
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post Jun 2 2022, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Jun 2 2022, 05:50 PM)
Tell me what you get, with which rack as well.
The problem with big topbox for 2 helmet is that the ADV rack is not suitable for the amount of weight. Shad makes 10kg, Givi only makes 5 kg. Though I would not want the top box to be heavy, alloy, since that is weight without the contents. Once you get 43L box, tempting to put cargo like 10 kg rice in there since there is space and then people will forget that it is rated up to 10kg including the box. I was thinking somewhere along the 32L adventure or 34L monoblock box.

What rack are you currently using for your top box (which model)?
Was looking at Shad as well. Rack has 10kg rating. Givi only 5 kg.
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My concern is more towards the width of it, since will be installed on my daily bike, and not really a big fan of panniers. Lol. Currently no top box or rack on the bike.
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post Jun 2 2022, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(genesiscopy @ Jun 2 2022, 04:39 PM)
My concern is more towards the width of it, since will be installed on my daily bike, and not really a big fan of panniers. Lol. Currently no top box or rack on the bike.
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Then something that can just fit 1 helmet is enough then.
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post Jun 2 2022, 08:17 PM

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Hmmmm..... Why do you need a topbox big enough to fit 2 helmets? You can't fit one in the 150ADVs underseat storage?

I don't think the 43NTL ADV can fit 2 either...you'd be looking at a 55 or 60l box to do that comfortably.

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