Is the price normal to change the battery for a myvi h or I had overpaid for the battery?

To add on:
By the way, the perodua service centre did mention different version of myvi use different battery as I heard of, for myvi h and myvi ad use different battery because the so called "hybrid" that's why is expensive?



This post has been edited by Pedojacko: May 3 2022, 02:59 PM

expensive and overpriced but that's the price to pay for having auto start stop

change it outside, start from RM300

This post has been edited by MR_alien: May 3 2022, 02:38 PM

battery 500, you so rich

Wow, 500 so cheap 😑 my last battery change cost me 1.3k

of cos they potong u, should have got from outside

can let me change 2x NS70L battery.

Walai bateri rm500

What kinda batery is that?

Even hond kity baru rm260+

perodua service center all premium price one

2x century maintenance free

400 outside Bosch

knn 500 last year i changed battery outside even half price compare with TS

inb4 battery premium kecian TS kana cutthroat price

lel

This post has been edited by degraw19: May 3 2022, 02:49 PM

honda city don't have auto start stop bruh
a normal battery for myvi without auto start stop is below RM200 only
a car that has auto start stop needs AGM battery and that itself is expensive
outside start from RM300

this is why i keep saying p2 is heading to the wrong direction KineticKill

TS definitely kena cut throat but it's not a whole lot cheaper outside as well

WTA is it normal when I called up service center to ask how much they charge for new absorber they refused to tell me the price until I give them car no. Plate number??

I had always bring to perodua worshop there for service but never question the price😅 how this happen because one day my car sometime cannot push start the car and feel like one day it will die on me, so i decided to call the perodua and asked what happen. So they just tell me that my car battery not enough and need to change. So I just bring to their workshop to change the battery and also service my car together. but didn't expect the battery can be this expensive 😅

tu lah....fuyoh cheap car also got high tech features damn worth it.

Then when it comes to maintenance and repairs / replacements KPKB kenape harga bangsawan??

Wait til the LED headlamp bulb burn lah.

Change outside la or via apps for battery, standard price at apps. UMW also another SC charged cut throat for battery at SC. Vios Dugong at rm600 battery replacement

Next time these wear and tear items like wiper, brakepads, battery etc..... ask price first.

Last time, my viva sc quote me 180 battery
I say no need, change out site

battery just rm150

u can change new every year for rm500

Perodua price maaaa. outside buy max RM200

Is the battery for the myvi 1.5 h? Because at the perodua service center mention that there is different battery that can be used for H and Ad version. I am also confused what battery and just listen to them that the battery they recommend me 😂

By the way, my battery just last 4 year, not sure is this normal?

battery for car with auto start/stop function, quite expensive even for the cheapest outside

what car ur using myvi also? diu last time i everydei call the service center farking busy line kek

the 2018 myvi batter is slightly bigger then the normal RM200 battery, mine is the Adv 2018 myvi, changed my battery last year, about RM400, but i changed outside lah, not in perodua service center, inside service center, they quoted me RM700 also, so i just go outside change 1 for RM400 maintenance free punya

Me bezza only.

May I know which service center or workshop you can recommend? Maybe next service I will bring it to outside instead perodua centre 😅

EFI battery will be more expensive than normal

i change my gf 1.3L maivi

Varta Silver M42L RM350 siap pasang thru bateriku

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: May 3 2022, 03:07 PM

you can order from bateriku or carput ..they will have rider come n install for u

you also can compare price and brand

i'm still servicing my car at the perodua service center due to warranty, just minor item changes like battery and these i go to a shop near my house in klang lah, just go to any mechanic i think they can help you

Must be using gold and diamond parts inside.

NS70L too big to fit inside mybi. Not even altis can fit it too.

Okay... Thanks for recommend me the site , and I just checked , it really is cheaper a lot compare to the perodua service centre 😅

normal
say like i call proton, i say saga
they also need to know which version of saga

saga BLM/FL/FLX/VVT


EFB/AGM battery isn't that cheap...it starts from RM300 cheapest

This post has been edited by MR_alien: May 3 2022, 04:25 PM

Why need AGM? Cheap battery lasts equally long

because the car has auto start stop
if the car is the old 4AT, lower variant thn can use normal battery but this is a 1.5H

meanwhile i am using wet rm105 ns40zl, 2.5 years already

most ppl disabled the auto start stop isnt it?

Furthermore frequent start stop will cause more damage to battery and/or engine (piston?) compared to no auto coz our fuel is still dirt cheap.
understandable for some countries the fuel is sibeh expensive so auto start stop makes sense but here?

1.5H?

disable and remove is different
u disable it, the system is still there active
u still need to use AGM battery regardless

actually no matter how expensive your fuel is, it's not worth it
i see some people the car just stop thn the light turns green...release brake pedal become start engine
the more traffic light, the higher the frequency

Idle-stop is a feature to qualify the Myvi as an EEV vehicle, got some tax exemption.

why student car @king of the road is so expensive to maintain?

https://shopee.com.my/M42-M42R-60B20L-R-Var...fb-2b2f3f434bf9

M42 / M42R | 60B20L/R Varta Silver EFB Dynamic | Start & Stop Engine (Idle Stop) Car Battery Bateri Kereta | Myvi Bezza No trade in

RM313.00




clearly you already kana chopped

also, they chopped your head again for the UNNECESSARY rm24.00 injector cleaner

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: May 3 2022, 08:49 PM

since when Rm50K+ car is qualified as a student car?

rm25K axia manual is a student car

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: May 3 2022, 08:48 PM

got one auntie said to her dotter one

Perodua once told me my bat dying, i end up using it for another 1y+

Itu EFB battery memang harga macam tu ler

Normal price for me if u ask

AGM battery much more exp than that. Twice. Or even thrice.

Yea... I checked the carput.my, is cheaper compare to perodua service center. But thanks for the link too!

But year, definitely will go outside workshop for service already since my warranty is already over way long already...

That's 富二代 privilege. Lower income, I don't think can afford. 😅
But for me I get myvi because of convenient parking in KL area lol.

This post has been edited by Pedojacko: May 4 2022, 07:25 AM

Great idea as that will save you a couple of bucks definately, however please do update us all when you run into electrical problems after the battery install.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: May 4 2022, 08:04 AM

ha, you guys missed the auntie story.

lol, more expensive than mazda 2 & 3 battery

Deswai bike battery is expensive as hell
Cost more than normal car battery 🤮

That auto start stop can be disabled?

Disable the auto start stop
Buy normal 180 battery

disable =/= remove
every car has a button to turn it off but the system is still there...it's not removed hence u still need an AGM battery
there are method to permanently disable it, same story

Why was the quote Rm700 ? That can't be battery alone.

Were there other electrical problems that required the additional cost ?

Bro., Stop-Start cars uses EFB Battery. Not AGM.

eh, i thought if car still under warranty, battery must changed at p2 service center, if not will void warranty?

The very reason why battery prices are higher in Service Centers for EFB battery compared to outside resellers is because of the high investment of diagnostic analyzers that must be accompanied with EFB batteries management which outside resellers are not burdened with.

Senang cerita y'all form 2 groups

1. Loyal to Service Centers
2. Loyal to Outside Resellers, without such diagnostic analyzers

Overtime 5, 10, 15 years then compare notes which is more economical including both direct and indirect costs.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: May 4 2022, 08:58 PM

AGM is far superior to EFB. EFB due to being cheaper is used widely in lower range cars. Higher range cars use AGM, plus dedicated capacitor (auxiliary battery) to further complement the power requirement..

Correct. But are those inferior vehicles electrical charging system designed for AGM's ? Obviously not.

There are variables but in theory you can.

It is your "Bro., Stop-Start cars uses EFB Battery. Not AGM." that intrigues me as it is very inaccurate.

This post has been edited by :3mushy:3: May 4 2022, 09:03 PM

entire assembly....rm600+

same goes to those who buy aruz/ativa kete ada gaya...rims start at 17"

Not Rm1,000+ meh ? Rm600 like harga runtuh leh. Siapa cepat siapa dapat.

Disable Stop-Start can.
Use NS40ZL cannot.

If battery kong not during SC working hour how ? Wait until they open ?

rm1.3k? that price of a escooter.

Why not

Good question. The SOP says cannot. I just follow SOP only.

Those who had tried NS40ZL with Myvi Eco-Idle, please update us all, was it a good move or a bad move.

Apa la hybrid ?

EFB stands for Enhanced Flooded Battery tu je. EFB-M42
RFB stands for Regular Flooded Battery iaitu NS40ZL

Later everyone heading in the same direction then you know. Developed countries most manufacturers have gone in that direction Stop-Start. Cukur la here under-develop so it may still take awhile but it is unavoidable, I think.

Rm600 for NS40ZL battery ?

Obviously you are not familiar with SC SOPs.

don't know what's the difference because i don't drive such car
just setting example...all those non-conventional battery are all equally expensive

there are still manufacturer that aren't heading to that direction
plus if they all do, i've been prepared
i already gave up buying new car already...and if the new myvi officially switched to 1.0L turbo CVT....p2 lineup of cars is officially doomed to me

If use startstop then maybe cannot. Frequently discharge will kill battery earlier.

Baik topup sikit beli bmw 5 years free serbis

eh wait....that was last gen myvi reflector unit.

yeah...the led probably 1k+

Reflector unit ? Teruk la kau ni. 😂😂😂

I think the 3rd Gen Myvi with that botox is with the CVT, if I am not mistaken.

Actually I also dont know what was Perodua thinking when they decided going with Stop-Start. Other manufacturers who has operations in developed world already know it is a negative judging from their clients comments so they are withholding doing here, unless the brain dead in Parliament says its the law.

I have a customer who bought a Myvi Gen 3 not the botox one but it came without Stop-Start but according to him, he really had to wait for it, as they were all pushing the Stop-Start units only that time. His only gripe was he had to settle for a smaller engine.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: May 4 2022, 10:34 PM

not sure why AGM battery is in this discussion.

we aint living in extreme weather and the pony 1.3 ~ 1.5L engine need AGM?

which expert brings that up

That I am not sure also if that is possible. I just service a client's Myvi early this month, never imagined that the Myvi had so many indicators in its dash. Kejap when I come across the video again on EFB batteries and the number of electrical loads that it has to support is really mind blowing, will share it with you.

Well I guess one could look at it this way, to hell with the vehicle's warranty, since this car will be on the 2nd hand market, so yeah. Your money, your ride, who are we to comment betul ? I have not personally checked with my friends in SC how much would it costs to replace a faulty ASA system if the fault was due to an incompatible battery use.

I know a damaged infotainment due to battery replacement can set me back by a minimum of Rm150 quote from P2 SC directly, not Authorized SC. Maximum amount I don't even want to know. Profit from battery sale, also not enough cover minimum damages to infotainment. 😨😨😨

What I do know is, the more electrical sensors it has, the more sensitive they are. Cars these days are getting more and more complicated. This is just 12V system. Wait till those EV vehicle become mainstream, those batteries dunno how many volts ? If kena dunno can die onot ?

One thing i have noticed is that there are more and more cars coming in with electrical problems at the mekanik bawah pokok operation. What does that tell us ?

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: May 4 2022, 10:54 PM

Post #12

He just stated, but doesnt conclude anything lah..

The main draw will still be engine starting. Efb battery allows heavy repeated drawing of current before have a chance to get charged. Esp during start stop traffic.

The sensors takes miliamps and should not affect much. Ecus have heavy filtering so voltage fluctuation would not affect it.

Infotainment damage is possibly from terbalik terminal. Likely shorted the polarity protection diode.

In any case, disabling the startstop should prolong the lifespan of the battery, efb or normal.

Ultimately is customer decision

Ev is another story. High voltage side is typically 600 to 800v. There is a DC DC converter that gives 12v for charging a conventional lead acid battery to power up the infotainment, fans, aircond compressor etc.

the pokok guud business fongshui

This post has been edited by nasiputih: May 5 2022, 01:36 AM

I would think so judging by the ever increasing number of people awaiting their services. There is a place business so good until many clients decides not to take their ride home. Dah jadi macam junkyard already. Don't know whether the mekanik managed to collect the payments or owners themselves decides to leave their cars permanently under the sifu custody all because of unresolved electrical problems.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: May 5 2022, 06:58 AM

If silap pasang I dont think only the infotainment will be the only problem, there will be bigger and more expensive problems.

OK here is what happened. 1st time I tested this Myvi Gen3, I immediately told to owner not to use the vehicle anymore, until I had done the battery replacement. It was a Bad Cell status. Since they have another car, use that first.

The following day, the owner drove to Jusco, no issues. On their way home, a strange 2" bar appeared across the screen. The owner immediately came to see me and showed me the bar. I also damn stupid, never whipped out the phone to record the damn bar. Panic sial, owner also sad already, saying really sakit hati stuff, like dunno this brand can trust onot. Told the owner no worries, go back first and will drop by an hour later.

Dropped by and we went on a test drive. This time armed with the stupid phone to record the strange bar for my HQ and my contacts at Perodua SC. KNN this time the bar never appeared again, until today. I had done a couple of battery replacements for this Myvi G3 but nothing quite like this ever happened before.

Since that incident, now I am very fussy about calls asking for battery assistance. If owners dont listen to their SC and wants my assistance in time of their need, I will usually give some stupid excuse. Surely got some other hidden problems brewing already.

Clients who allows me to do diagnostic test before their battery dies, then I know what exactly I am dealing with and I will be to help. Out of the blue new clients, I just send them back into the blue aje lah. Orang lain pun mahu untung ma.

Definately sounds snobbish but hey at least I dont have to incur any stupid repair bills later and most importantly loss of goodwill towards my Principal Co. batteries and me.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: May 5 2022, 07:36 AM

yes
myvi gen 3 only the 1.3L 2 lowest variant doesn't come with it
the rest of the lineup came with it

for me, i can accept CVT...nothing wrong with it
but i can't accept 3 pot...so right now, myvi is left that is still worthy to buy
once myvi changed to 1.0L 3 pot turbocharged, it's no longer worthy anymore

Sorry bro., what is pot ?

In some videos, there are some who are complaining about strange noises coming from the CVT. They are saying the 4AT is better. I don't la, thats what they claim only. Not interested to find out in detail.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: May 5 2022, 07:41 AM

Battery that suppork auto start stop is expensive...

Cylinder.
If me 1.0 3 cylinder masi ok la, if 1.5 3 cylinder a no no

don't really know the difference between AGM and EFB because i don't use it
but to say we don't live in extreme weather, that's wrong
there's a reason why our battery only lasted an average of 1.5-2 years

furthermore, u do notice EFB battery only given a warranty of 12 months while conventional battery give warranty of 18 months

3 pot is conventionally called 3 cylinder

Bad cell status is reported by the dashboard? Or your battery tester?
The 2"bar got give any obd code? Any check engine light?

Since u represent battery company, sure u have full range of efb agm right? The myvi case you replace with is efb as well?

Sorry to hijack this post for my curiosity