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technosakai
post Apr 28 2022, 01:54 PM

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What do you guys think about used ninja 250?
i'm getting my bfull soon, budget I'd say tight. Max 20k
Planning to get a used 250 first just to learn the skills needed to ride a bike on the road.
Have 10 years of driving experience, but then again. Car not the same as bike
Personally, I would stay away from R25 or Mt-25. They're the same engine.. Tuned differently sure, but the parts are the same. Issues are most likely the same.. With the teh ais engine oil, code 46, hard plastic gear bearing.. I see tonnes of R25 in the used market but definitely won't be interested in getting one.
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post Apr 28 2022, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(Vi Merkz @ Apr 28 2022, 12:51 PM)
Theres a weird thing goin on in malaysia riding culture, majority of the people are "lazy" to upgrade their license and stick with under 250cc, hence all the glorified 250cc. Expand your search abit further, you'd realise the pricing isnt that big a gap and you get better returns with 400/600+cc bikes. Personally id stay away from 250cc(practicality wise) if you already own a bfull to begin with.
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partly I would say some couldn't afford higher cc's. Can't afford to maintain, hence the sambung bayar culture also. Can pay the downpayment for a B-full bike, but then couldn't afford to pay the instalment afterwards.
or couldn't afford the maintenance.
Also because of the power of the 'L' license in malaysia. Go get an 'L', stick it to your bike and you're good to go. I've seen a guy on a z800, with L sticker, just zig zagging around on the Federal Highway, rev-bombing people for not giving way to him then points a middle finger.

So some people see there's no point in getting a B Full when a L can just get them the same thing..

How much of a difference in cost of maintenance between a 600cc and a 250cc though?

I only know tyres probably are the biggest difference due to jump in size.
technosakai
post Apr 28 2022, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Apr 28 2022, 03:19 PM)
Don’t know la, I cincai say only. I thought bottom out shock during emergency braking is weird means you brake backwards? Or are you try to wheelie while doing emergency braking so can bottom out the shock?
Buy the bike that you really like, and that you won’t mind fixing it if anything bad happens.
Rather than a bike that you expect to be very reliable, but breaks down randomly unexpectedly and you get frustrated.

This above does not apply to Italian bikes because they are meant to break down anyway so it’s the joy you get when they don’t.

CFMoto can take a look also la. Ninja 250 also have its issues.
Some ppl memang plan to JT or sambung bayar the day letak dp for bike. Use few months, then pass to others la. Cannot pass then piang. Facebook also got ppl teach the procedure to piang bike.

600cc to 250cc if we say same brand like kawasaki (ninja 250, ninja 650, ZX6R), or Yamaha (R25, R6)
I would say the parts are 4x more…

For EO, I would use RM40 per bottle for 250cc, but if 600cc, I’d say RM80 per bottle…
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Where's CFMoto from? I usually don't trust all these copy cats brands though.
later spoil scared no parts to fix

what do you mean by piang bike? as in hide in chinese? Hide the bike?
damn if 4x more than it is still tough to maintain if don't have the budget..
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post Apr 28 2022, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Apr 28 2022, 04:13 PM)
CFMoto from China assembled locally, u don't have to buy, but can search for owners club and tune in. you have a point, so make sure their service center is nearby.

piang = JT = lari bank: sorry i dunno where this term from, but ppl posted before and can search facebook got ppl memang do business deal with such vehicles
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oh damn.. but im not gonna do it ah. What for wanna get blacklisted by banks
btw to TS, R25 and MT25 has plastic fuel tank covers, they're not metal if not mistaken. So if you use it for daily ride to work, can't put tank bag cuz they usually use magnets
Unless you plan to use box or backpack everyday
technosakai
post Apr 29 2022, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(UnknownH @ Apr 28 2022, 10:04 PM)
I feel attacked but thankfully it's Federal Highway(I'm milessss away) so not me phewwww. I don't do the finger tho sweat.gif

Anyway ts, I came from 125cc clutch bike. Got myself a used z8(non-abs) early this year. My first ever big cc bike. Just for fun. Not for daily, work stuff. But I rode it almost daily anyway laugh.gif
3 months of usage, almost 8k km covered. EO change roughly Rm200 for oil filter and 4 bottles of EO. Done it twice already. First was Castrol Ultimate and last one was Caltex Havoline. A pair of Metzeler roadtec 01 cost me rm900.
Of course these depends on cheap vs expensive stuff.
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haha didn't mean to offend or attack anybody. Just saying that's how flawed our system is.. L sticker allows you to ride any bike without cc limit.
3 months of usage and you clocked 8k km but changed EO twice? ohmy.gif
4k km per change?

damn.. I thought standard for all bikes are like 10k km per change isn't it?
forgive me as im a noob, just starting to learn and know more about bikes.
I myself am interested in z800 as well. Mean looking machine. otherwise z900 but way out of budget. cry.gif
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post Apr 29 2022, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(felixwlchuan87 @ Apr 28 2022, 09:26 PM)
i dont agree when you said cfmoto is copy cat without take some look on it. i am first batch of 250nk owner. Have no much complain on it except not enough juice while on highway. city ride is good. maintenance is cheap, rm10+ for oil filter. engine oil only need 1.4L as it is single cylinder. clocking 27k km now and still going on. For spare part wise, the factory is at Penang, and any cfmoto authorized dealer can help you to order all those spare parts and it reach less than 3 days(my experience). What? still expensive? then go take a look at taobao and order from there with 10-30% cost reduced.
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to me, copy cat is defined in looks. Like how last time Demak tried to copy KTM if not mistaken?
and do me cfmoto looks way to similar to KTM dukes too.
engine wise not sure, just the looks of it..

 

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