QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 12 2024, 12:50 AM)
Nope. Dixcel ES is primarily organic instead of metallic.
I'm almost finishing a set of fronts (rears still got 40-50% left) in just a year.
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Sep 12 2024, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(JON97 @ Sep 12 2024, 12:50 AM) Nope. Dixcel ES is primarily organic instead of metallic. I'm almost finishing a set of fronts (rears still got 40-50% left) in just a year. constant_weight, ayamxxx, and 1 other liked this post
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Sep 14 2024, 07:53 AM
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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Sep 13 2024, 06:04 PM) How much mileage in the year? Aug 2023 (around the time i replaced full set Dixcel ES) to Sep 2024 I gotten about 25k kmHow is the behaviour? From the website pressure chart, the friction seems to be pretty linear. I'm look looking at Z type for a while. I want stronger brake during low pressure/shallow pedal. Z type has slightly stronger initial bite low brake pressure at mid/low speed than ES. Average friction is similar with my OE pads. The ori pads fiction is HH rated (0.5u+ for both low temp and 400C+), performance after market option for my car is almost non-exist. Either too less friction or never make one for my car. Z type is the rare odd. Very good braking, consistent, but it does get a bit mushy after really intense downhill and hard/late braking on the corners and speed bumps. Zero track activities with Dixcel ES though. My next is indeed a full set of Z type. amscouzach57 and constant_weight liked this post
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Sep 16 2024, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 16 2024, 03:45 PM) Have you tried TRW dtec by any chance? How does it compared to the Dixcel ES? nope never tried TRW dtecI believe your driving style is almost like mine, hence i think if you say its good for u, it shld be good for me too lol I think we are not the same. you want power, while i don't mind on power at all, i just have a very lopsided / biased / extreme focus on ride and handling, braking, tires, suspensions. engine, so long it isn't an econo box 1 liter engine or something on a 1.3 ton body, i am still ok. constant_weight liked this post
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Sep 16 2024, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 16 2024, 06:58 PM) Now u make me curious, how does your car's handling compared to mine? Since u are at the extreme side and i dont think i am extreme. I can consistently pull 1.1-1.2G Cornering, 0.9-1.1G Under downhill braking.and 2 fingers, best handling n comfort for me), hardrace arms n bushings, ur bars for engine and bottom chassis, All this only on stock suspensions (2k Spring rates, stock height no changes) , and downgraded front 4 pot Sumitomo caliper (stock original is 2 pot but overall it's better performance than my 4 pot) On the bolded, is why /meme QUOTE we are not the same constant_weight liked this post
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Sep 16 2024, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 16 2024, 10:04 PM) 2k spring rates will have more body roll, how does this translate to better handling? I'll leave it to you to figure them out bro Also, I don't quite understand your G values analogy. 4 pots will always have better braking distance provided the 4 pots will have the shorter braking distance. What do you think? Or you come join me in a Touge night constant_weight liked this post
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Sep 16 2024, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 16 2024, 10:42 PM) I was hoping we could share our knowledge. I will politely decline. Again I think what you are saying is not what I understand. Stock suspensions on standard car like yours or mine, not including supercars will always have less sharper handling due to excessive body rolls especially during touge. Any upgrades that reduces body roll = better handling. I change my brake pads first. Because of the lines you've already written and I quote again. It's difficult to explain and I do not have sufficient proficiency in teaching over forums. constant_weight liked this post
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 16 2024, 10:51 PM) Alright. How about any links for me to read up? I was about to ask what specifically, but good edit. Youtube videos even better? I am really curious. Example: Everything same, same car, same professional driver. With 2k spring rate vs 6k spring rate, the 2k spring rate will have faster track time? Of course i'm not talking about 20k spring rate until the car is jumping around, losing more traction.. As long as the car is planted, having less body roll will always means better handling. Hopefully you can understand why bold isn't he case Anyways, last reply, as to not detail this thread. Apologies to TS constant_weight liked this post
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