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TSbasilisk
post Apr 23 2022, 02:14 PM, updated 2y ago

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Mforce also assemble distribute QJ, benelli, competitor

using clone 650 kawasaki engine,

price in china vs malaysia (ckd by mforce)

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TSbasilisk
post Apr 23 2022, 02:18 PM

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Claimed wet weight is 232kg with the 18-litre tank at 90% capacity, which is pretty substantial compared to a full-tank Yamaha Ténéré 700 (205kg) or new Aprilia Tuareg 660 (204kg).

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews...-cape-650/2022/


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post Apr 23 2022, 10:49 PM

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Not sure why they rather bring this over the hottest cake in China currently that is Brixton by Gaokin motors.

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post Apr 25 2022, 06:07 AM

hai hai... kazuma dayo....
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Apr 23 2022, 02:18 PM)
Claimed wet weight is 232kg with the 18-litre tank at 90% capacity, which is pretty substantial compared to a full-tank Yamaha Ténéré 700 (205kg) or new Aprilia Tuareg 660 (204kg).

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews...-cape-650/2022/
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damn... i guess u wont be skipping leg day if ure riding this bike lol...
ajaibman
post Apr 26 2022, 09:28 PM

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Meanwhile...

Suzuki Vstorm with its old school looks, has TCS even though only telescopic suspension.. selling MYR 37K ..
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post Apr 27 2022, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Apr 26 2022, 09:28 PM)
Meanwhile...

Suzuki Vstorm with its old school looks, has TCS even though only telescopic suspension.. selling MYR 37K ..
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Yeah kinda stupid to bring Chinese fake and charged more.

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TSbasilisk
post Apr 27 2022, 01:50 PM

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mebe the offroad capability is better than vstrom??
more sus travel, more ground clearance??





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lowpro
post Apr 27 2022, 04:00 PM

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Should be sold cheaper for the spec it offers. Not that much HP either compared to the vstrom. But I wouldn't call it fake though. It it just like Proton and Geely. IMHO, it looks miles better than the vstrom 650 which has a really unacceptable headlamp design. RM5k to RM6k lower for each variant will put it on better terms with the market.
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post Apr 28 2022, 11:06 AM

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to be fair.. Moroni advantages.

1. Better looks
2. better suspension. (marzocchi)
3. better ground clearance

Disadvantages

1. Expensive
2. No TCS
3. Heavy (steel tube frame)

Both bike Vstorm and Morini cant be use for serious offroad, jalan sawit off road perhaps can .. so it geared up for a adv touring type of bike on paved road..

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post Apr 29 2022, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Apr 28 2022, 11:06 AM)
to be fair.. Moroni advantages.

1. Better looks
2. better suspension. (marzocchi)
3. better ground clearance

Disadvantages

1. Expensive
2. No TCS
3. Heavy (steel tube frame)

Both bike Vstorm and Morini cant be use for serious offroad, jalan sawit off road perhaps can ..  so it geared up for a adv touring type of bike on paved road..
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Yup. Most below 1,000cc ADV bikes these days are built for light off-roading only and were somewhat designed to replace Sport Tourers...which is a sad thing because I love Sport Tourers like the R1200RS or even my old FZ6R. Sportier bikes in this grey segment today include Triumph Tiger Sport 660 and Moto Guzzi v100 Mandello.
TSbasilisk
post Apr 29 2022, 06:31 PM

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well after tnt600 still wana sell same thing meh...

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post Apr 30 2022, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Apr 28 2022, 12:06 PM)

Both bike Vstorm and Morini cant be use for serious offroad, jalan sawit off road perhaps can ..  so it geared up for a adv touring type of bike on paved road..
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Serious offroad, no. But jalan sawit & off-the-beaten-track kind of paths, can. V-strom at least, the X-cape I dunno coz it's new.

Actually these types of bikes are more capable than what ppl give them credit for. Especially those with 19" front wheels. I don't blame them, as not many Malaysians would dare take an expensive shiny big bike off-road & risk dropping it.

I'm not the off-roader type myself, until one day I came across a blocked road due to some construction. Either I double back to take the freakin' long way around, or went off the road to climb uphill, cut cross an unpaved & uneven field under some trees with heavy bumps & ruts to get to the other road. At the end of it, I had to jump off the tall kerb onto the road. Definitely not something you would attempt in a passenger car or a streetbike... but once I stood up on the pegs, used my knees & kept loose on the bars, I was surprised how easy & fun it was on my bike. The extra ground clearance & 19" front really made a difference in negotiating the deep ruts & bumps.

Like everybody else, I bought the bike for my urban commute & on-road touring. But hey it's nice to know it actually has some decent off-road competencies in reserve should the occasion call for them.
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post Apr 30 2022, 12:26 PM

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What’s with the Chinese making bikes that’s 20% heavier than competitors ? And what’s with mforce thinking their bikes that can charge a premium over their more reputable, more reliable competitors?
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post May 5 2022, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(chantakzee @ Apr 30 2022, 12:26 PM)
What’s with the Chinese making bikes that’s 20% heavier than competitors ? And what’s with mforce thinking their bikes that can charge a premium over their more reputable, more reliable competitors?
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Think they're high on SYM success lel
TSbasilisk
post May 17 2022, 02:39 PM

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qj vs morini now...

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post Oct 26 2022, 10:31 PM

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At the recent 2022 Givi Rimba Raid Kuala Tahan,

A sole mmorini xcape managed to finish the race in under 5 hours.

Out of 66 riders in Class B, only 26 managed to finish the race.
The xCape is at #15 position.

Tons of bmw ktm DNF

Surprisingly only 3 triumphs were there, all 3 DNF.
No thai rider is using triumph,
the weapon of choice is Tenere700



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post Oct 27 2022, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Oct 26 2022, 10:31 PM)
At the recent 2022 Givi Rimba Raid Kuala Tahan,

A sole mmorini xcape managed to finish the race in under 5 hours.

Out of 66 riders in Class B, only 26 managed to finish the race.
The xCape is at #15 position.

Tons of bmw ktm DNF

Surprisingly only 3 triumphs were there, all 3 DNF.
No thai rider is using triumph,
the weapon of choice is Tenere700
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I heard the guys received USD5k upon passing the finish line. A token from Moto Morini.
TSbasilisk
post Oct 27 2022, 06:38 PM

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well, the rider has the skill and is lucky enough, so he well deserve the $$$
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post Oct 27 2022, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Oct 26 2022, 10:31 PM)
At the recent 2022 Givi Rimba Raid Kuala Tahan,

A sole mmorini xcape managed to finish the race in under 5 hours.

Out of 66 riders in Class B, only 26 managed to finish the race.
The xCape is at #15 position.

Tons of bmw ktm DNF

Surprisingly only 3 triumphs were there, all 3 DNF.
No thai rider is using triumph,
the weapon of choice is Tenere700
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bukit taubat is the achilles' heel for all the big bikes.

nobody expected that xcape to survive. but it did.
next year expect more manufacturer to sponsor their bikes to compete.
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post Oct 28 2022, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Oct 27 2022, 09:54 PM)
bukit taubat is the achilles' heel for all the big bikes.

nobody expected that xcape to survive. but it did.
next year expect more manufacturer to sponsor their bikes to compete.
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Next year's RR will be held in Sabah. At least that is what I heard from Capt. Ridzwan's team.
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post Oct 28 2022, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(xnobys @ Oct 28 2022, 08:44 AM)
Next year's RR will be held in Sabah. At least that is what I heard from Capt. Ridzwan's team.
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Some are saying the RR technical team mentioning 2023 will be Kuala Tahan reverse route.
Probably they're considering those 2 options.

RR Kundasang is gonna limit participants from semenanjung.
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post Oct 28 2022, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Oct 28 2022, 08:53 AM)
Some are saying the RR technical team mentioning 2023 will be Kuala Tahan reverse route.
Probably they're considering those 2 options.

RR Kundasang is gonna limit participants from semenanjung.
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I don't think the event in East Malaysia would stop these overlander maniacs from participating. There was a group of crazy bikers from the Philippines riding their bikes all the way to Kuching before having their bikes air freighted to KL and participate in the last RR.
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post Aug 29 2023, 10:23 AM

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post Aug 29 2023, 01:25 PM

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Saw the 650X at KLBS but the MForce person there knows absolutely nothing about the bike..seems they weren't briefed on the bike. That doesn't really convey a lot of confidence on MForce as a distributor if thier staff is so ill informed about thier own display bikes.

As far as I can see, it's based on the Suzuki vstrom vtwin engine...upgraded brakes and features but missing a very crucial and convenient remote preload adjuster on the monoshock.... And I can't seem to see where the adjustment collar is, maybe under the seat....which would be a major PITA if you need to constantly change rear preload for luggage and pillion....especially on this sort of bike.
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post Aug 29 2023, 01:51 PM

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hope mforce wont be like demak... lol... all the best.. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 5 2023, 03:20 PM

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ok 2023 moto morini managed to finish the race in class B.
class A, all BM DNF.
Fantic top in class C.



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post Nov 18 2024, 04:07 PM

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post Nov 18 2024, 08:36 PM

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Same price with Vulcan, must as well get the Vulcan.
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post Nov 18 2024, 09:39 PM

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Got 2 side box + batwing cowl..
Led drl some other gaya stuff, c la who fancy this more,
Enjin same 180° crank...
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post Nov 19 2024, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Nov 18 2024, 08:36 PM)
Same price with Vulcan, must as well get the Vulcan.
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Vulcan extremely old already and really looks dated...

 

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