Dear all LYN sifus,Good afternoon.
i am renovating my house right now.
the existing wall color is light blue/purple color.
i wish to paint it white.
My contractor told me the most cheap and budget friendly method shall be maxilite which cost around RM 160
I went to paint shop and tell told me had to primer + paint which cost around RM 580
while some shopee shop owner told be I can straight away JOTAPLAST Max which cost around Rm 158

I wish to consult all LYN sifus that had such experience.
if I want to paint a house with budget friendly cost, which option shall I go for?

well normally i do not recommend skimping on paint quality as i want my paint to last very long.
its a big hassle to re-paint a room when you have furniture already.
but personally i would primer and then paint.

but among the choices above i would go for the nippon matex.

The contractors usually stick to the method they knew. Put primer to ensure color paint stick and cover those unevenness and stain on wall. The reason is simple; they do not want to risk doing the same job twice if the owner is dissatisfied.

Nowadays (starting like 10 years ago), the paint has been improved and many claimed no primer required. I did not see Jotun saying no primer needed (maybe I missed) but stated that the paint (usually the acrylic paint) has good hiding property and cover unevenness very well.

I'd just go straight with color, 2 layer, and done.

the above are mostly cheap paints, not much difference. i personally use matex for ceiling only. i dont think u need primer unless you plan to use nice color interior expensive paint.

my contractor only paint 1 layer Nippon Matex then follow with a layer Nippon Satin Glo, is this ok?

Existing colour paint is not terribly old, and no issue with damp wall right?
Just paint over with matex for A4 paper white.

After ten years my matex still hold up perfectly.

This is usually done if the existing colour is dark or diff colour, to "lighten up" the background so the satin glo colour can "pop" well.

if the wall accidentally kena some coffee stain or dirt stain, can I wipe with water?

what is the difference between matex & JOTAPLAST Max?

Thanks sir for the sharing.

Hi, if my wall after hacking & plaster back do I need primer before paint? Do I need any special treatment on the hacking part surface?

I plan DIY, what type of paint should I look for? Prefer those easy maintenance type, can wipe out the dirt easily.



This post has been edited by lawrencehl: Apr 22 2022, 09:44 AM

Brand preference only lah, Matex do not dilute with more than 2-3% water *be very kiamsiap with the water for best results*.
KCC more solids but harder to stir.. it dries thicker
Matex very beginner friendly, easy to apply, my personal preference
Jotun.. somehow I find their economy paint not as cheap so I never use

Yes otherwise cement suck up water like a sponge and you will definitely see the line there.
Easywash for colour paint.. else any matex also can for white. If it stick properly to the wall its quite easy to wipe down with soap and water.. I use economy white for kitchen wall and frying stuff the oil splatter everywhere so no point for me to use good paint.

Thanks for reply, primer do I need to apply whole wall or only the hacking area? What brand of primer & paint do u recommend?

yeah, my existing colour is diff, slightly darker

in this situation, still need sealer before the satin glo?

i think this is emulsion paint, cant touch with water. if kena coffee stain then koyak already

even no stain, you simple wipe with water, will left a water print there

Enough to cover the bare cement mortar (hacked area) plus a lil on the sides. No harm to apply more one.

You're painting on good condition existing paint so no need sealer. It would be good to paint over with economy white so that the true colour of new paint will not be "tinted" with dark old paint lah.

Thanks for the advice 😉. Which matex should I choose?

usually i just use the "White" one.. 15425 is ICI code for white IIRC.. both should be A4 paper white aka boring white, either is fine

if my wall is already white, would the same still apply? not sure whether to use 5400 wall sealer or matex as undercoat and how many layers of satin glo is sufficent

Is sealer=primer?

The original colour looks darkish. If you just paint 2 layers of cheap paint, there is a chance of color bleeding through. Might notice this only after few days. The walls got a bluish tint. End up painting another layer. Too many layers, then risk of paint peeling.
I think better use a primer, sand a bit when dry, then one layer cheap paint. The white should last longer.

If wall already white, just clean a bit, make sure flat and smooth since you are using paint with sheen. 2 layers satin glo is enough.