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TSTevtra P
post Apr 12 2022, 03:06 PM, updated 4y ago

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Recently purchased neighbour's house and the land title under wifey's name while our original house is under my name. Will there be any complication if we're to renovate and combine the house into 1 house?
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post Apr 12 2022, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Tevtra @ Apr 12 2022, 03:06 PM)
Recently purchased neighbour's house and the land title under wifey's name while our original house is under my name. Will there be any complication if we're to renovate and combine the house into 1 house?
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No issues or no issues at least until there's a divorce.

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mini orchard
post Apr 12 2022, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Tevtra @ Apr 12 2022, 03:06 PM)
Recently purchased neighbour's house and the land title under wifey's name while our original house is under my name. Will there be any complication if we're to renovate and combine the house into 1 house?
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No complication with approval from local authority. Title will remain as two different properties.

If your decide to sell later, you have to find a buyer who can buy both.
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post Apr 12 2022, 07:09 PM

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why wanna combine?
really catch worm into backside... as the Chinese saying.

just do all the reno and open door and wall la.
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post Apr 13 2022, 11:32 AM

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could you share your design? very keen to see what 2 terrace house combined would look like smile.gif

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post Apr 13 2022, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Apr 12 2022, 07:09 PM)
why wanna combine?
really catch worm into backside... as the Chinese saying.

just do all the reno and open door and wall la.
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No marriage is guaranteed to last forever. so yes ...better to create a Door that connects. thats all you need to do.
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post Apr 13 2022, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Apr 12 2022, 04:02 PM)
No complication with approval from local authority. Title will remain as two different properties.

If your decide to sell later, you have to find a buyer who can buy both.
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Thanks for the info! The biggest structural change will be the deletion of the next door's staircase, other changes is just opening up some big walls and doors connecting the 2 house.


QUOTE(yiwee @ Apr 13 2022, 11:32 AM)
could you share your design? very keen to see what 2 terrace house combined would look like smile.gif
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i'm thinking of starting a reno journal here once it's started, but we'll see how it goes nod.gif

QUOTE(empire @ Apr 13 2022, 11:52 AM)
No marriage is guaranteed to last forever. so yes ...better to create a Door that connects. thats all you need to do.
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I don't know about you but i don't get into marriage in the first place with that kind of expectation and/or worries. Connecting the house like this is just an extension of how we express our commitment and love to each other and if it really comes down to divorce we'd have bigger problems to worry about rather than the house.
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post Apr 13 2022, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(Tevtra @ Apr 13 2022, 12:55 PM)
Thanks for the info! The biggest structural change will be the deletion of the next door's staircase, other changes is just opening up some big walls and doors connecting the 2 house.
i'm thinking of starting a reno journal here once it's started, but we'll see how it goes  nod.gif
I don't know about you but i don't get into marriage in the first place with that kind of expectation and/or worries. Connecting the house like this is just an extension of how we express our commitment and love to each other and if it really comes down to divorce we'd have bigger problems to worry about rather than the house.
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Don't omit. Fire safety. You are going to seal off another escape route during emergency. Just connect the 2 unit with the door in between or bring down the wall in between the units.
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post Apr 13 2022, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Tevtra @ Apr 13 2022, 12:55 PM)
Thanks for the info! The biggest structural change will be the deletion of the next door's staircase, other changes is just opening up some big walls and doors connecting the 2 house.
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I saw a house that did something similar to your idea. The only different is both the stairs are at the sides. He only demolished partly the shared wall.
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post Apr 13 2022, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(nihility @ Apr 13 2022, 01:04 PM)
Don't omit. Fire safety. You are going to seal off another escape route during emergency. Just connect the 2 unit with the door in between or bring down the wall in between the units.
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unless that's a requirement from authority, the idea is to make it as thought the 2 house is as 1 single house and arrangement for fire safety will also be treated as such.
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post Apr 13 2022, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Apr 12 2022, 07:09 PM)
why wanna combine?
really catch worm into backside... as the Chinese saying.

just do all the reno and open door and wall la.
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I'm very (overly) fond of the location of the current place and when there's a chance to expand and make it bigger i'll give anything to do it, if it's including "catch worm into backside" i'll gladly shove it all the way where the sun don't shine tongue.gif
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post Apr 13 2022, 01:54 PM

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well...happy for your to found you idea property which you see yourself staying for long.

any particular reason you want to join the title?

my point is that you may extend, expand and break wall with 2 individual title. Personnally i just feel it create more trouble in future.

a few scenario we may think off- but it may not of your concern, then it is ok

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post Apr 13 2022, 01:56 PM

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is the staircase wall load bearing ?
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post Apr 13 2022, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Apr 13 2022, 01:54 PM)
well...happy for your to found you idea property which you see yourself staying for long.

any particular reason you want to join the title?

my point is that you may extend, expand and break wall with 2 individual title. Personnally i just feel it create more trouble in future.

a few scenario we may think off- but it may not of your concern, then it is ok
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Renovation doesnt have to involve merging the title. If for any reasons the owner wants to sell the property individually later, just redo it to original.

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post Apr 14 2022, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Apr 13 2022, 01:54 PM)
well...happy for your to found you idea property which you see yourself staying for long.

any particular reason you want to join the title?

my point is that you may extend, expand and break wall with 2 individual title. Personnally i just feel it create more trouble in future.

a few scenario we may think off- but it may not of your concern, then it is ok
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It's still a separate title, that's why i'm asking the knowledgeable members here if there will be any complication with the submission to authority for the renovation.

QUOTE(Zenith5229 @ Apr 13 2022, 01:56 PM)
is the staircase wall load bearing ?
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the layout mirrors my house's layout, from my previous renovation almost 5 years ago i shifted the staircase and the contractor have to create new columns so i guess there's column on the stair case wall.


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post Apr 14 2022, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Tevtra @ Apr 14 2022, 03:43 PM)
It's still a separate title, that's why i'm asking the knowledgeable members here if there will be any complication with the submission to authority for the renovation.
the layout mirrors my house's layout, from my previous renovation almost 5 years ago i shifted the staircase and the contractor have to create new columns so i guess there's column on the stair case wall.
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If they are separate titles under different names, it is not possible as separate plans are required to be submitted to authority for each unit. The reason is because one side can't sign on the plan for the other side and vice versa. Separate files = authority looking at it as separate unit of houses. Each house will be required to be functional by itself. Your taking out staircase on one side already make it non functional and in separate files submission you can't remove the shared structure/party wall.

If they are separate titles under the same name or names, it is possible and subject to the authority.
If both is amalgamated into 1 title, it is confirmed possible.

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post Apr 14 2022, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(Phyarc @ Apr 14 2022, 11:17 PM)
If they are separate titles under different names, it is not possible as separate plans are required to be submitted to authority for each unit. The reason is because one side can't sign on the plan for the other side and vice versa. Separate files = authority looking at it as separate unit of houses. Each house will be required to be functional by itself. Your taking out staircase on one side already make it non functional and in separate files submission you can't remove the shared structure/party wall.

If they are separate titles under the same name or names, it is possible and subject to the authority.
If both is amalgamated into 1 title, it is confirmed possible.
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Thanks for the great info. It's possible to amalgamate into 1 title with 50/50 ownership? I'm a foreigner while my wife is local Malaysian so i believe this will complicate things for quite a bit especially our property is under selangor jurisdiction (I obtained this landed property right before the foreigner can't own landed property rule is in force).
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post Apr 15 2022, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(Tevtra @ Apr 14 2022, 11:36 PM)
Thanks for the great info. It's possible to amalgamate into 1 title with 50/50 ownership? I'm a foreigner while my wife is local Malaysian so i believe this will complicate things for quite a bit especially our property is under selangor jurisdiction (I obtained this landed property right before the foreigner can't own landed property rule is in force).
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Can be done, but need the mutual agreement between 2 owners for the share allocation.. it also depends on the land size per portion to determine the share in percentage. And yes, during amalgamation applicstion they may reject it, since they would follow latest ruling of foreigner not entitled to own landed property in Selangor.

Regarding your application to remain as 2 separate lots but to combine as single unit, no harm to ask the authority for special consideration if you have consent letter from adjoining lot (yours to wife's and vice versa). Usually authority follow the book meaning they would reject your case and you can have better chance by going top down in their organisation for such special case.
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post Apr 15 2022, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Zenith5229 @ Apr 13 2022, 01:56 PM)
is the staircase wall load bearing ?
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Good question. As many landed properties that comes with load bearing wall nowadays. This can be seen in YTL development.

 

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