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post Apr 9 2022, 08:08 PM, updated 4y ago

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Dear all, as the title goes, is the 2019 Persona Premium (around RM42k +-, mileage less than 15000km) still worth to buy in 2022? Wanted to get a second hand but not too old car. Currently in dilemma as the new 2022 Persona Exec cost around 51k OTR. Would it be a better choice to get the new car rather than the used? (in my defense, getting used car is becaus depreciate also x sakit hati haha)

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post Apr 9 2022, 08:12 PM

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It's a 3-4 year old car, if you buy used. Didn't even depreciate 30% in value, so it's overpriced. Better buy new. You do the maths in detail - you will save more buying new (Full warranty, lower interest rates, brand new car, hassle free, etc.)
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post Apr 9 2022, 08:38 PM

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42k buy Vios god car dugong style better than Persona many times...put in some money for repair and maintenance, will serve you long time.

Persona spare parts no problem already ?
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post Apr 9 2022, 09:12 PM

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Then find another Persona with genuine mileage. If its used car dealer better careful of their fake mileage. Yes it's gonna be a tough one unless got service record.

You buy new.. Syiok the new car smell and can show off new car to your friends and family, but again you bite that depreciation bullet for years. And new car feeling is just temporary. Only 1 month to show off.

No wonder our country debt level is high. Because everyone encourage others to buy new.

Tepuk dada, tanya selera
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post Apr 9 2022, 09:27 PM

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As long as it is in good condition and genuine mileage, why not. Try to haggle abit lah the price.
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QUOTE(DSV4600 @ Apr 9 2022, 08:12 PM)
It's a 3-4 year old car, if you buy used. Didn't even depreciate 30% in value, so it's overpriced. Better buy new. You do the maths in detail - you will save more buying new (Full warranty, lower interest rates, brand new car, hassle free, etc.)
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i actually agree on the interest rate hahah

QUOTE(metalfire @ Apr 9 2022, 08:38 PM)
42k buy Vios god car dugong style better than Persona many times...put in some money for repair and maintenance, will serve you long time.

Persona spare parts no problem already ?
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dugong not my cup of tea haha.. but usually dugong comes with alot of mileage aleady right? takut ada problem weihhh, from what i heard x50 and x70 are affected more on the spare part? (not sure about this kindly advise if im wrong haha)

QUOTE(pcdoctor_my @ Apr 9 2022, 09:12 PM)
Then find another Persona with genuine mileage. If its used car dealer better careful of their fake mileage. Yes it's gonna be a tough one unless got service record.

You buy new.. Syiok the new car smell and can show off new car to your friends and family, but again you bite that depreciation bullet for years. And new car feeling is just temporary. Only 1 month to show off.

No wonder our country debt level is high. Because everyone encourage others to buy new.

Tepuk dada, tanya selera
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agree.. planning to buy from carsome or mytukar, so the mileage should be fine i guess, the one that im looking at still has the warranty from proton until 2024..

the depreciation part is one of my concern also actually haha.. if buy new, once got out of showroom straight away depreciate.. but for the 2nd hand unit that im looking at, 42k for a 3yo car, my question is, for that price point, make sense to go for it rather than a brand new 2022 persona right? (which cost around 50k for exec version)

QUOTE(dares @ Apr 9 2022, 09:27 PM)
As long as it is in good condition and genuine mileage, why not. Try to haggle abit lah the price.
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buying from carsome / mytukar, hard to nego o hahha
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post Apr 9 2022, 11:52 PM

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proton or perodua better buy new la. as majority previous owner drive like mad.

different not much oso if u calculate. yes, new car almost guarantee depreciate once come out from showroom. but u get zero wear and tear.

if u look ur surrounding, how many national car owner drive relax. majority I see always full throttle at traffic light and not slowdown when met speedbump.
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post Apr 10 2022, 12:07 AM

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That 15k mileage since bought from carsome/mytukar might be legit. but 42k for me still quite high. should depreciate more la. and 10k gap not much taking account new borrowing rate vs 2nd hand rate.


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51k vs 42k, of coz get the new 1. old 1 c/w higher loan interest
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post Apr 10 2022, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(DM52 @ Apr 9 2022, 11:52 PM)
proton or perodua better buy new la. as majority previous owner drive like mad.

different not much oso if u calculate. yes, new car almost guarantee depreciate once come out from showroom. but u get zero wear and tear.

if u look ur surrounding, how many national car owner drive relax. majority I see always full throttle at traffic light and not slowdown when met speedbump.
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I see your posts always generalize local car owners as rempits.

You should really stop doing that.
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post Apr 10 2022, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(noname1688 @ Apr 9 2022, 10:08 PM)
i actually agree on the interest rate hahah
dugong not my cup of tea haha.. but usually dugong comes with alot of mileage aleady right? takut ada problem weihhh, from what i heard x50 and x70 are affected more on the spare part? (not sure about this kindly advise if im wrong haha)
agree.. planning to buy from carsome or mytukar, so the mileage should be fine i guess, the one that im looking at still has the warranty from proton until 2024..

the depreciation part is one of my concern also actually haha.. if buy new, once got out of showroom straight away depreciate.. but for the 2nd hand unit that im looking at, 42k for a 3yo car, my question is, for that price point, make sense to go for it rather than a brand new 2022 persona right? (which cost around 50k for exec version)
buying from carsome / mytukar, hard to nego o hahha
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For single driver Exec is more than enough. The dealbreaker for me was the airbag count as I bawak children in the rear seats. If that doesn't bother you, can just go with new Exec instead of used Premium.
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 10 2022, 10:52 AM)
I see your posts always generalize local car owners as rempits.

You should really stop doing that.
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Throughout my 30 years driving experience, national car driver among those who are very aggressive. reason why, maybe they are young and dumb. and another things is the car is cheap, so they might not scare to totaled their car.

And everyday see dashcam owner facebook, its justify. btw, to be fair, every manufacturer got driver drive like hantu, but rarely see merc/bmw drive like maniac. even entry level e200 century sprint can get 7.5 second. but rarely see they sprinting at traffic light and in town.
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post Apr 10 2022, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(DM52 @ Apr 10 2022, 01:29 PM)
And everyday see dashcam owner facebook, its justify. btw, to be fair, every manufacturer got driver drive like hantu, but rarely see merc/bmw drive like maniac. even entry level e200 century sprint can get 7.5 second. but rarely see they sprinting at traffic light and in town.
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How many local cars OTR? how many Merc/BMW OTR?


QUOTE(DM52 @ Apr 10 2022, 01:29 PM)
Throughout my 30 years driving experience, national car driver among those who are very aggressive. reason why, maybe they are young and dumb. and another things is the car is cheap, so they might not scare to totaled their car.
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I guess you have never met any City, Vios, Altis, Civics in your 30 years of driving.

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post Apr 10 2022, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 10 2022, 01:45 PM)
How many local cars OTR? how many Merc/BMW OTR?
I guess you have never met any City, Vios, Altis, Civics in your 30 years of driving.

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no doubt national car is many. but I talk about ratio.
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QUOTE(j88j @ Apr 10 2022, 02:01 AM)
51k vs 42k, of coz get the new 1. old 1 c/w higher loan interest
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yezza. old 1 at least 4.5% interest


QUOTE(DM52 @ Apr 10 2022, 01:29 PM)
Throughout my 30 years driving experience, national car driver among those who are very aggressive. reason why, maybe they are young and dumb. and another things is the car is cheap, so they might not scare to totaled their car.

And everyday see dashcam owner facebook, its justify. btw, to be fair, every manufacturer got driver drive like hantu, but rarely see merc/bmw drive like maniac. even entry level e200 century sprint can get 7.5 second. but rarely see they sprinting at traffic light and in town.
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e class majority unker drive. for sure slow. same like camry/accord. go see a class, cla class. those drive like crazy.

QUOTE(dares @ Apr 10 2022, 01:45 PM)
How many local cars OTR? how many Merc/BMW OTR?
I guess you have never met any City, Vios, Altis, Civics in your 30 years of driving.

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altis mostly ahpek drive.lol. city/vios majority fast driver. btw, all cannot beat myvi. driver very brave one. full throttle everywhere.

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post Apr 10 2022, 02:19 PM

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Better go for new.. the % depreciation of the used persona doesn't justify.. better go for new.. lower interest rate. Peace of mind with factory warranty.. end up you could save more actually..

Beware of used car dealer, most of them adjusted the mileage, repainted the car with super bad workmanship+ quality..

To verify whether is it genuine mileage.. check with proton on the car's condition for last service records.. get the car geran. Check previous owners name if he/she has any social media accounts, contact them to verify the cars condition..
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QUOTE(Prismo_Ultra @ Apr 10 2022, 02:19 PM)
Better go for new.. the % depreciation of the used persona doesn't justify.. better go for new.. lower interest rate. Peace of mind with factory warranty.. end up you could save more actually..

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"Peace of mind with factory warranty" Again warranty nonsense...how many times you yourself have claimed warranty throughout the warranty period? whistling.gif (Please dont lie)
Save more? LOL, looks like you didnt calculate the final payment at the end of your loan PLUS the depreciation from the car FROM NEW.

Not forgetting you Must service at SC to upkeep the warranty that owners freaking love. That's where they earn from you. Warranty ain't free.

No wonder our country is full of debts doh.gif
#KThnksBye

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QUOTE(DM52 @ Apr 9 2022, 11:52 PM)
proton or perodua better buy new la. as majority previous owner drive like mad.

different not much oso if u calculate. yes, new car almost guarantee depreciate once come out from showroom. but u get zero wear and tear.

if u look ur surrounding, how many national car owner drive relax. majority I see always full throttle at traffic light and not slowdown when met speedbump.
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I think there are specific bad apples, but not all local cars la. For me, I would stereotype like this:
- Myvi king nuff said.
- 20+yo old cars, especially those with dents, rust and/or scratched surface. I guess some are even road tax lapsed so drive like mafakas. They don't care if accident cuz you can't claim them and theirs just besi buruk, your loss. Especially banyak Wira in this category, heroic drivers indeed.
- modded local car. The higher the spoiler, the higher their horsepower. Exhaust also racist sial go BROOM BROOM. Basically the ones who can't afford a better car but nak Gaya juga.

I drive relaxed la... But I guess you saw me at my awkward moments, sometimes I speed through the bumps cuz didn't see laugh.gif missing stripes ok!

Though, I'm legit surprised you don't see Benz or BMW drivers speeding or road bully. To my experience, it's like people buy the luxurious cars to earn the rights to be an asshole. Almost every BMW I see matches the Bad Mannered Wankers stereotype, on the contrary I'm pleasantly surprised whenever I see a normal BMW driver (i.e. signals, doesn't tailgate, no high beams, patient in general)

Anyways @topic, 2nd car market lately just feels kinda unsafe to me because of recent floods. Many sifus mentioned about ways to detect a potential flooded car, so I guess in general you'll be fine as long as you're equipped with the right knowledge and/or support to check the 2nd hand car's true conditions.
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Talking about ratios? Where's the data from?
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post Apr 13 2022, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(noname1688 @ Apr 9 2022, 08:08 PM)
Dear all, as the title goes, is the 2019 Persona Premium (around RM42k +-, mileage less than 15000km) still worth to buy in 2022? Wanted to get a second hand but not too old car. Currently in dilemma as the new 2022 Persona Exec cost around 51k OTR. Would it be a better choice to get the new car rather than the used? (in my defense, getting used car is becaus depreciate also x sakit hati haha)

TIA for the advices  notworthy.gif
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New persona better driving experience, currently driving persona 2019 exec. CVT need times to adapt but tried my GF's 2022 persona much better response, 16inch tyre and got eco mode etc. Only complaint is it use fabric seat and the HU angle is bad imo, also if exec they give u thai tyre if not mistaken.

Warranty also one issue, just claimed my side mirror warranty after waiting since last Nov 2021. Next gonna claim mounting warranty too, just waiting parts to sampai
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post Apr 17 2022, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(weihan98 @ Apr 13 2022, 11:27 AM)
New persona better driving experience, currently driving persona 2019 exec. CVT need times to adapt but tried my GF's 2022 persona much better response, 16inch tyre and got eco mode etc. Only complaint is it use fabric seat and the HU angle is bad imo, also if exec they give u thai tyre if not mistaken.

Warranty also one issue, just claimed my side mirror warranty after waiting since last Nov 2021. Next gonna claim mounting warranty too, just waiting parts to sampai
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Oh I see.. heard a lot of this comment also hah..
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QUOTE(noname1688 @ Apr 9 2022, 10:08 PM)

agree.. planning to buy from carsome or mytukar, so the mileage should be fine i guess

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carsom and mytukar cars are also exposed to mileage rollback
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QUOTE(e-lite @ Apr 17 2022, 02:13 PM)
carsom and mytukar cars are also exposed to mileage rollback
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How? They ate being dishonest too?
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post Apr 17 2022, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(e-lite @ Apr 17 2022, 02:13 PM)
carsom and mytukar cars are also exposed to mileage rollback
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Apr 17 2022, 03:34 PM)
How? They ate being dishonest too?
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Ya weih.. would like to know also..
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Apr 17 2022, 03:34 PM)
How? They ate being dishonest too?
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They don't rollback themselves. But the previous owner/persons can always rollback before bringing it in to them. Their terms and conditions strictly says that they do not warrant for true mileage.

Carsome & mytukar depends a lot on the inspector individual itself. If the inspector is careful, they will have a lot in their report. If the inspector cincai, you also pening when you collect the car. A lot of times they didn't catch if the car was in a previous accident
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QUOTE(noname1688 @ Apr 9 2022, 08:08 PM)
Dear all, as the title goes, is the 2019 Persona Premium (around RM42k +-, mileage less than 15000km) still worth to buy in 2022? Wanted to get a second hand but not too old car. Currently in dilemma as the new 2022 Persona Exec cost around 51k OTR. Would it be a better choice to get the new car rather than the used? (in my defense, getting used car is becaus depreciate also x sakit hati haha)

TIA for the advices  notworthy.gif
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no....way too overpriced
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post Apr 19 2022, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(weihan98 @ Apr 13 2022, 11:27 AM)
New persona better driving experience, currently driving persona 2019 exec. CVT need times to adapt but tried my GF's 2022 persona much better response, 16inch tyre and got eco mode etc. Only complaint is it use fabric seat and the HU angle is bad imo, also if exec they give u thai tyre if not mistaken.

Warranty also one issue, just claimed my side mirror warranty after waiting since last Nov 2021. Next gonna claim mounting warranty too, just waiting parts to sampai
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2 year car already need to change engine mounting?
u mean the engine mounting or absorber top mounting?
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post Apr 27 2022, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(iverice @ Apr 19 2022, 01:56 PM)
2 year car already need to change engine mounting?
u mean the engine mounting or absorber top mounting?
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Should be engine mounting, my friend also changed under warranty. No more vibrating stering.
Mine still waiting for parts to arrive.
BTW just did my 30k service yesterday, change R3 fully and R3 filter. The driving feel more smooth compared to previous Petronas fully.
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QUOTE(noname1688 @ Apr 17 2022, 12:57 PM)
Oh I see.. heard a lot of this comment also hah..
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But TBH, a lot of industries are affected by covid shipments delay. So might be beyond control, for me 50K+- I will choose persona anyday haha.
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QUOTE(weihan98 @ Apr 27 2022, 08:57 AM)
Should be engine mounting, my friend also changed under warranty. No more vibrating stering.
Mine still waiting for parts to arrive.
BTW just did my 30k service yesterday, change R3 fully and R3 filter. The driving feel more smooth compared to previous Petronas fully.
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sorry , what is R3 ?
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QUOTE(ssmui @ Apr 27 2022, 10:32 AM)
sorry , what is R3 ?
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Err proton sport department. Can google proton r3 fully synthetic oil. They having promo now 170+, normal price 208 if nt mistaken
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QUOTE(weihan98 @ Apr 13 2022, 11:27 AM)
New persona better driving experience, currently driving persona 2019 exec. CVT need times to adapt but tried my GF's 2022 persona much better response, 16inch tyre and got eco mode etc. Only complaint is it use fabric seat and the HU angle is bad imo, also if exec they give u thai tyre if not mistaken.

Warranty also one issue, just claimed my side mirror warranty after waiting since last Nov 2021. Next gonna claim mounting warranty too, just waiting parts to sampai
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I've own a Persona Premium 2019 back in MCO3.0, brought this car at 50k (partly also SST and car# plate booking). I do agree that CVT response is a bit slow (1sec delay) upon I pressed on the accelerator comparing my ExoraCFE CVT which gives immediate response.
I just wonder if Proton able to remap the Persona2019 ECU to Persona2022 for better CVT response?
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QUOTE(sunny281199 @ Apr 28 2022, 08:52 AM)
I've own a Persona Premium 2019 back in MCO3.0, brought this car at 50k (partly also SST and car# plate booking). I do agree that CVT response is a bit slow (1sec delay) upon I pressed on the accelerator comparing my ExoraCFE CVT which gives immediate response.
I just wonder if Proton able to remap the Persona2019 ECU to Persona2022 for better CVT response?
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No idea eh, maybe you can try to ask SC?
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i bought used persona at mytukar.. still got warranty plus warranty from mytukar.. the price is half of the new car .. interest rate 3.3% only not as high as other used car dealership.. i think buy used from mytukar or carsome is more worth it because more guaranteed and interest is low because bank more confident in the car condition..
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QUOTE(iammasivers @ Apr 28 2022, 09:09 AM)
i bought used persona at mytukar.. still got warranty plus warranty from mytukar.. the price is half of the new car .. interest rate 3.3% only not as high as other used car dealership.. i think buy used from mytukar or carsome is more worth it because more guaranteed and interest is low because bank more confident in the car condition..
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3.3% is a good rate for a local car, 2nd hand somemore. it very close to the rate of local new car, no? surprised me mytukar still have the principal warranty intact.
carsome always say no, regardless of car year.
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Apr 28 2022, 11:50 AM)
3.3% is a good rate for a local car, 2nd hand somemore. it very close to the rate of local new car, no? surprised me mytukar still have the principal warranty intact.
carsome always say no, regardless of car year.
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so close yet so far tongue.gif , got mine new Persona2019 Premium @50k with 2.3% during MCO3.0 + SST rebate + SA 5k rebate...I would say its a steal. rclxs0.gif
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QUOTE(sunny281199 @ Apr 28 2022, 01:34 PM)
so close yet so far  tongue.gif , got mine new Persona2019 Premium @50k with 2.3% during MCO3.0 + SST rebate + SA 5k rebate...I would say its a steal. rclxs0.gif
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Wah. I know rates are lower but really damm low lol.
I personally feel persona is a good car/option. Though I have not test or driven it before. It’s bang for value.

For that price, it’s really a steal.

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