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post Jul 6 2023, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Jul 3 2023, 11:34 PM)
Collected the TCCH earlier today. Everything seems in order, but still early days.
Will report issues if/when I encounter them.

Already got first complaint from boss (mom) - not enough storage space in front.
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Congratulations. Hope it will live up to expectations. Having driven a Corolla Cross hybrid and non-hybrid, I can surely vouch for its quality in terms of comfortable and great suspension, good steering feel and zero rattling sound. Looks like a solid vehicle.

By the way, a question to owners who have bought a Toyota, may I ask what is the current or lowest interest rate you've got, and from which bank? I was told that the minimum load period is 2 years with minimum RM40k or 50k loan.

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post Jul 6 2023, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(hamtarox @ Jul 6 2023, 04:29 PM)
just got mine 2 days ago. 2.78% from toyota capital. hybrid
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Thanks. Looks like the 2.75% interest mentioned on Toyota website is not too far off from your 2.78%.
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post Jul 8 2023, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Jul 8 2023, 09:21 AM)
congrats!
mine 2022 tccv, rhb 2.1% fixed rate, 100k loan
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I haven't bought it yet. Should congratulate Dev/numb. Anyway, I'm curious about your 2.1% interest rate you've got which is much lower than 2.75% (taken from Toyota website) and 2.78% from another owner here. If RM40k loan 2 years duration, do you know the estimated rate? Is there a 1 year loan period?
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post Jul 8 2023, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Jul 8 2023, 04:19 PM)
Car was purchased for my mother, so I’ve done limited mileage myself. I’m at her house now (we live separately) and drove her to nearby township earlier in the TCCH. So far only about 250km done. Mileage is around 20km/l. NVH is quite good. On smooth roads, it’s actually not far off my Harrier (XU80) in terms of road noise, but the differences become more apparent when road surface get rougher (not surprising considering the Harrier costs around 2x the TCCH). One bit that annoys me is that pull-out shade thing in the boot area - it makes a slight sound over bumps when extended, so I rolled it in.

The factory tint is crap though (like all factory tints). Plan to get something better after the 1month/1000km service is done, but I’m worried that the front and rear DVR units are stuck to the windscreen and will complicate installation.

Cannot give personal experience with regards to current loan rates as the last time I engaged with any bank’s hire purchase department was almost a decade ago. TCCH was a cash purchase (combined with resale of previous car), while my Harrier is leased via Kinto. For what it’s worth, a friend got 2.4x% fixed from PBB – 100k, 5yrs – for her Mazda last month.
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Thanks for the response. If I'm guessing it correctly the Harrier is CBU from Japan? Even though it isn't, at a price that is almost double that of the hybrid, it is excusable for the hybrid to show slightly higher noise than the Harrier when traveling on rough roads. The shade thing in the boot, from my limited experience it tends to contribute to rattling sound in the cabin when going over rough or uneven roads as it will bounce up and down with the car hence the noise.

Good note on the cheap tint. I understand it comes as standard with the vehicle. I didn't ask on it previously but is the tint very dark at the rear and side windscreens? If yes, the tint needs to be removed before the new tint can be installed otherwise it will be too dark. I presume you took the rear dash cam option by paying the additional premium. Not sure why you need to wait for the first service before you replace the tint as it can be done before that.





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post Jul 9 2023, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Jul 8 2023, 06:01 PM)
Harrier is JP-CBU. Had at for around 17 months (36 month subscription) and odometer is currently just below the 40,000km mark. Not a single rattle detected.

Cross rear tint is darker than front. Plan to remove factory Ecotint from all windows and install a decent brand. Currently leaning towards IrisPro or Xpel, although I’m still searching around. Yes, I ticked the rear dashcam (and 5yr service saver pack) option. Reason I’m waiting for the first month service is just my own personal SOP for any car.
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It is unfortunate the Corolla Cross comes with a tint that isn't effective. In other words, useless. Toyota have actually described the tint as "Toyota Premium Security and Solar Film" the the brochure of the Corolla Cross. Might as well don't include it if it doesn't help at all.

I'm not sure about Irispro or Xpel. May I ask what is the price range of these tints.

My only experience with aftermarket tints is Huper Optik and V-kool Elite. There isn't any doubt the V-kool Elite is better not only in heat rejection performance and longevity but also a more pleasant greenish hue which adds to a calmer and soothing ambiance. The Huper Optik has a brownish hue instead, and the heat rejection isn't as good, and the performance starts to drop just only after 3 years. The V-kool remains consistent after 5 years when the car was sold. I have read that the V-kool can last more than 10 years without a deterioration in performance.

If its proven the Premium security and solar tint on the Corolla Cross is lousy, I may go with the V-kool as it is proven to be good. With other tints, it's a gamble. The V-kool was priced at RM3.6k for a C-segment sedan about 15 years ago. It should be around RM4k-5k or higher depending on the packages for an SUV. The Host Optik is considerably cheaper at RM1.7k for a similar class C-segment sedan.


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post Jul 9 2023, 10:23 AM

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I thought it's high quality. Looks like my hope is short-lived.
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post Jul 10 2023, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Jul 9 2023, 11:39 AM)
Most manufacturer tints are marketed as “premium” or whatever. In my experience, none of them offer sufficient heat rejection for our country’s UV index. My Harrier uses V-Kool – Elite 70 for windshield, 55 for front windows, 40 for rear – and the cost was a bit under RM5k (I consider V-kool overpriced now, but this was put down as company expense). Frankly speaking, if sticking to JPJ guidelines, even with the highest end brands I can still feel heat coming through the front on very hot/sunny days, so for the Cross I intend to go a bit darker for the windshield, probably around 50% VLT to match the front side windows, although I still need to perform some tests with my mom to see if she’s comfortable with it. IrisPro and Xpel are around the RM3k mark, +/- RM500 depending on spec combination. The 3M Crystalline series installed on my mom’s previous car was utterly useless.
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Yes, RM4k+ seems like a lot of money to pay for tints these days so perhaps it may be prudent to go with alternatives that may offer better value for money despite having slightly inferior heat rejection performance. Need to check if GPS navigation (Google Maps and/or Waze) is able to work with the tint(s) though as it can't work with V-Kool from my previous experience.

From the car tint thread on the main page, TotalGard seems to be a potential candidate as the price range is around RM1k to 1.7k. The highest VLT tint (53%) is only available with Ifusion Pro while the Titanium Plus starts from VLT 40% all the way down to 5% so the range can't be used at the front windscreen. JPJ / police will only focus on the front and front side windscreens so the tints can't have a shade that's too dark at these areas.
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post Jul 10 2023, 08:54 AM

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Would like to check if anyone here has bought vehicles from Toyota Wing Hin Seri Kembangan branch? If yes, do you have the telephone number of this branch? I tried calling numerous times on Saturday and Sunday and this morning but nobody picked up the call. I am wondering if there is another number.

The telephone number I called is 03-8962 6889 which is published on Toyota website as well.
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post Jul 10 2023, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Jul 8 2023, 06:01 PM)
I ticked the rear dashcam (and 5yr service saver pack) option. Reason I’m waiting for the first month service is just my own personal SOP for any car.
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May I ask if you have had the chance to test the quality of the dash camera both front and rear. I presume the quality is acceptable especially the rear dashcam since it's an add-on where potential buyers can choose between the one offered by Toyota and another model installed outside of Toyota workshop?
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post Jul 13 2023, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(melz84 @ Jul 11 2023, 11:41 PM)
My rear cam doesn't seem to record anything  sweat.gif

my first service was given free...
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I thought there's the "Toyota Service Savers" plan for 5 years (100,000 km) and 3 years (60,000 km) at RM3,670 and RM2,360 for Corolla Cross non-hybrid. You didn't take the package so the 1st service was given free to you?

What is the difference in price of the service between the Toyota Service Savers package where owners pay the service upfront, and the service where owners only pay when sending their vehicle to the service centre?
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post Jul 13 2023, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Jul 13 2023, 08:08 AM)
Did you check how much v-kool is? That’s the only brand that I trust cause my previous car has it on for 17 years. No issues at all, and my eyeglasses never once change colours inside the car, meaning that the UV is really filtered out. Even though all the windows looks almost transparent cause you were not supposed to have dark shade tint in the past.
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I did look at the prices of V-kool somewhere on the website several days ago. It ranges from RM4k to 7k for a mid-size SUV depending on the type of tint. The darker tints / packages cost more. Frankly I don't intend to spend more than RM2k for tints but I know V-kool is very good having first hand experience with V-kool many years ago as it was provided as a package by the car manufacturer when the car was delivered to me.

I am aware it's a gamble trying other cheaper tints which may not be as effective. My took a gamble with Huper Optik after I sold the car with V-kool, and instantly I knew Huper Optik is not as good in terms of heat rejection even when new. Not only that, just after 3 years the vehicle keeps getting hotter and hotter and approaching 6th or 7th year it feels like there's no more tint inside the car.

Anyway, the TotalGard seem to have some good reviews by owners on this thread, not sure if I should give it a try. It's much cheaper than V-kool, I believe.
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post Jul 13 2023, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jul 13 2023, 08:20 AM)

Anyway, the TotalGard seem to have some good reviews by owners on this thread,
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I just realised this is not the Tint thread on the main forum but the Corolla Cross thread. There is one owner (Ayamxx) who appears to have compared TotalGard with Vkool.
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post Jul 13 2023, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Jul 13 2023, 09:57 AM)
Don't cheapen out on tint. Might as well save more to do a good one later. Cause it's not worth it in the long run. And cheap tint makes the car so warm in the end. Also they tend to have bubbles after a while. V-Kool has lifetime warranty? And anytime you have issues with the tint, they will just fix it for free. and they really does cool down the car a lot.
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Do you have contact for genuine V-kool installers without inflated prices? If yes perhaps can share here. Will probably ask for a quote and decide later. The prices I see from the V-kool website earlier may be inflated and marked-up. Not sure if there are places where GENUINE V-kool tint can be installed at down-to-earth prices. Thanks.

Yes, I agree it may not be worth it in the long run to go with cheap but ineffective tints. However, need to balance out cost vs value factor too. No matter how good is the tint, it's not worth it if it's too costly, in my view.
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post Jul 13 2023, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Jul 13 2023, 12:00 PM)
V-kool is probably the second most imitated brand of tint in this country (behind 3M), so even finding a genuine one is hard enough. My Harrier has V-kool installed, but the uncle who did it for me just retired and sold his business, and the new guy is arrogant and incompetent.

I’ve experienced other brands with comparable performance over the years. A friend has Sahara X installed on his XV for the last 3yrs and it’s actually really good. Can say comparable to V-kool. I think it comes from the same factory as Totalgard - if you search Totalgard on Google Maps the images of their main HQ also contain Sahara X related pics.

Also other brands with good reputation, like (prices in ascending order) IrisPro, Xpel and Llumar. My concern is more with installer competence. Frankly hard to place trust in new people after almost 2 decades with my old guy. The one time I went somewhere else,  I either got scammed or the supposed original product (3M) was simply not as good as advertised.
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Thanks for the information. I read about Sahara X several years ago, the price is quite high. Llumar also so likely won't go there. Might as well go with V-kool instead of Llumar. Similarly I've read about fake V-kool it's risky unless installing at authorised V-kool centres but the prices that most of these centres charge are rocket-high and may not be consistent between the outlets.

Will see how it goes. Too early since I haven't even booked the vehicle yet. Right now Totalgard looks good but will investigate IrisPro. The TotalGard only costs around RM1k for whole car and the performance was claimed to be almost comparable to V-kool. The V-kool would have cost RM5k to 7k if not higher so even if the heat rejection performance is slightly inferior, it does not really matter for the price you pay. If the TotalGard which costs ~RM1k is comparable or even better than the Huper Optik on my current car where I paid RM1.7k for it, that should do it.
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post Jul 16 2023, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Jul 16 2023, 02:34 PM)
hmm, i am interested to know which brand do you opt for in the end? I don't want to end up with cheap films that heat up the car like crazy.
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It won't be too soon as the new car purchase has been delayed. Likely will be Totalgard as there is one user review which mentioned that the Totalgard is comparable to the heat rejection performance of the V-kool. I am trying to solicit more information on the thread of the main car section on Totalgard vs V-kool and Huper Optik where both tints have been used on my cars.

For performance, there is no denying the V-kool is excellent but in terms of value it is poor. If one has the budget then just go for it. I have used Huper Optik before (Sech60 on front windscreen and C40 on all remaining windscreens) and cannot recommend it as I find the performance to be poor. It costs RM1.7k for the whole car. The Totalgard was claimed to be comparable to V-kool and the price to do the whole car is only RM1k or slightly more. If that is really the case, it's unbeatable value. Of course, it's too good to be true if RM1k Totalgard is comparable to RM5k-7k V-kool and that's the reason I'm asking for more real world experience from users who might have tried both. With Hotter Optik, even when newly installed on the car, it feels slightly hotter than V-kool. Difference is quite noticeable. After 3 years it feels even hotter and after 5 or 6 years it feels like there's no more tint on the car although it's still there stuck to the windscreen.

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post Aug 2 2023, 11:16 AM

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Just to check. No issues whatsoever with the Corolla Cross so far? FWIW i was in communication with a Toyota service advisor and he mentioned there are some minor issues with the Corolla Cross steering whereby there will be a slight clicking sound from the steering wheel upon the engine startup when it's turned. The sound will disappear shortly after that. He mentioned this issue is random and wont' affect every Corolla Cross, and it can be fixed at the service centre under warranty.

Any Corolla Cross GR Sport owner here? Spotted one last Sunday. Quite a rare car this GR Sport Cross.
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post Aug 2 2023, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Aug 2 2023, 05:48 PM)
Spotted the blue one yesterday. Usually only see the white variant. The blue is quite nice under the sun as well. Still, for the money, I wish it came with a bit more, like 19” wheels (with suspension to compensate) or a dual exhaust.
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19" wheels would transform the looks of the car and make it even more elegant and standout. Fortunately all variants come with 18" and not 17" though.

If it comes with turbocharged engine it would be even better but the existing configuration is decent enough for everyday driving. It's good that the SUV has decent or above average handling, verified by my short test drive earlier likely contributed by the tnga tuning. Most suvs from other manufacturers apart from Subaru XV maybe don't handle well with soft bouncy suspension.

Just hope that it will remain rattle free as long as it can with minimal to zero issues with years to come.
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post Sep 15 2023, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Sep 15 2023, 05:52 PM)
Just went to showroom, all Corolla Cross models discount RM6k, car can get Oct, very fast, backlog cleared.
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May I ask which showroom. I just contacted a sales advisor after reading your message and he told me otherwise.

Hybrid - RM6k discount
V - RM3k discount
GR Sport - nothing
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post Sep 15 2023, 10:09 PM

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Thanks for the info. I presume RM6k discount is from Toyota. From sales advisor there may be few more hundred ringgit which will vary with different sales persons.

Unfortunately there are none for GR Sport. If it's RM6k for GR Sport I'll go ahead with the booking. It's a value buy for the hybrid with the current RM6k++ discount.

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post Sep 19 2023, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Sep 19 2023, 04:04 AM)
Yeah, coming from a H owner, it's really on a different level in terms of maintenance. Friend's previous gen HRV after a few years - nget2 sound, BRV worse. Now worried about CVT giving up the ghost, fast2 bail. H Malaysia is better in their use of more cutting edge tech & after sales service.

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Your remark on Honda's more cutting edge technology in comparison to Toyota is a well known fact. My neighbour who is Honda's GM and he told me the same thing. You lose some here and gain some there. Honda is better than Toyota in having more updated or cutting edge technology ie. 1.5 Turbo engine or more futuristic design whereas in terms of quality it is down ie. quality issues with steering, rattling sound inside cabin etc. Toyota although is on older technology ie. ancient engine, outdated design etc. it's proven reliable and overall higher quality in terms of fit and finish, with minimal or zero issues and rattling sound from what I was told.


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