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miyakochan89
post Apr 23 2023, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(melz84 @ Apr 6 2023, 12:46 AM)
Great to see there's ongoing TCCH discussion here.. jusy booked mine, SA  gave lead time 2 months to get the car..

Was supposed to be going for a Honda but stopped by toyota while otw to honda showroom.. love the car immediately put down booking 🤣
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Oh now only 2 months? Not 6 months? Wait which model you ordered?
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post Apr 23 2023, 10:18 AM

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Yup, I am waiting for the facelift version.

It will come with Electronic Parking Brake with Auto Hold Function, Wireless Android Auto, Wireless Apple Carplay, etc since it already has in the new Toyota Vios high spec model which is a lower price than CC.
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yeah but they will probably price it higher... sad.gif
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post Apr 24 2023, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Apr 23 2023, 10:16 AM)
Oh now only 2 months? Not 6 months? Wait which model you ordered?
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Honestly I don’t know how this works. I think depends on dealership. I suspect some SA will just hold the order even if a customer cancels after SST exemption date passed, and then slot in a new customer into that order number. Also, I think waiting list for 1.8 G/V/GR models shorter than Hybrid.

Mine (Hybrid) ordered February and still scheduled to arrive July-August. In my case it’s actually better because buying in cash (plus resale of previous car) so I based it on the timing of my own cash flow. If car suddenly arrives before June I’ll be a bit short and will need to use the CC.

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post Apr 24 2023, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Apr 24 2023, 11:00 AM)
Honestly I don’t know how this works. I think depends on dealership. I suspect some SA will just hold the order even if a customer cancels after SST exemption date passed, and then slot in a new customer into that order number. Also, I think waiting list for 1.8 G/V/GR models shorter than Hybrid.

Mine (Hybrid) ordered February and still scheduled to arrive July-August. In my case it’s actually better because buying in cash (plus resale of previous car) so I based it on the timing of my own cash flow. If car suddenly arrives before June I’ll be a bit short and will need to use the CC.
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trade in old car will put u early priority. majority shop have trend like this
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post Apr 24 2023, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Apr 24 2023, 11:00 AM)
Honestly I don’t know how this works. I think depends on dealership. I suspect some SA will just hold the order even if a customer cancels after SST exemption date passed, and then slot in a new customer into that order number. Also, I think waiting list for 1.8 G/V/GR models shorter than Hybrid.

Mine (Hybrid) ordered February and still scheduled to arrive July-August. In my case it’s actually better because buying in cash (plus resale of previous car) so I based it on the timing of my own cash flow. If car suddenly arrives before June I’ll be a bit short and will need to use the CC.
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I just placed my order. the SA told me it will arrive around 3 - 4 months, of course HP needs to get approval first.
How long is the validity of the HP after approval? Can get 100%?

This post has been edited by miyakochan89: Apr 24 2023, 02:19 PM
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post Apr 24 2023, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 24 2023, 01:16 PM)
trade in old car will put u early priority. majority shop have trend like this
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Not in my case. Previous car is Toyota brand also. Still offer same wait time. Price offered also not that great. I got better offer from Carsome adjuster/agent. In the end, I just order first. Will decide who to sell previous car to closer to time of new car arrival.


QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Apr 24 2023, 02:19 PM)
I just placed my order. the SA told me it will arrive around 3 - 4 months, of course HP needs to get approval first.
How long is the validity of the HP after approval? Can get 100%?
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Depends on your credit rating with the bank you apply to, first and foremost. Beyond that, I’m not certain since my last HR loan was a long time ago. Nowadays it’s either leasing (my current car is Kinto sub under my company) or cash. Better you ask in the “Latest car loan rate” thread, but generally 100% loan quite hard to get fast approval unless you have equivalent asset (eg: FD or gold) or credit rating in said bank.

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jibpek
post Apr 26 2023, 01:26 PM

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mapren compressor damaged, and was quoted RM5+ to replace because this is a hybrid car, the compressor is drive by motor not belt.

Can anyone confirm?

Thx
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post Apr 26 2023, 01:43 PM

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What is mapren compressor? Why not covered by Toyota Cross Warranty?

QUOTE(jibpek @ Apr 26 2023, 01:26 PM)
mapren compressor damaged, and was quoted RM5+ to replace because this is a hybrid car, the compressor is drive by motor not belt.

Can anyone confirm?

Thx
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post Apr 26 2023, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(jhleo1 @ Apr 26 2023, 01:43 PM)
What is mapren compressor? Why not covered by Toyota Cross Warranty?
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mapren = My friend.

I was thinking to buy either Toyota cross / xTial Hybird.

And then my friend told me his problem with his aircond compressor recenlty.
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post Apr 26 2023, 02:08 PM

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The car launch not more than 3 years. Shall have warranty unless your friend not service on schedules.

If you think of Nissan X-trail, think twice. I banned this brand after owned Xtrail more than 5 years, many parts need to replace especially after 5 years.

QUOTE(jibpek @ Apr 26 2023, 01:53 PM)
mapren = My friend.

I was thinking to buy either Toyota cross / xTial Hybird.

And then my friend told me his problem with his aircond compressor recenlty.
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post Apr 26 2023, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(jibpek @ Apr 26 2023, 01:26 PM)
mapren compressor damaged, and was quoted RM5+ to replace because this is a hybrid car, the compressor is drive by motor not belt.

Can anyone confirm?

Thx
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On a hybrid, the a/c system is also responsible for cooling the battery. Compressor is not belt-driven. It’s usually called an eCompressor (Denso uses this term) because it’s powered electrically, and it’s connected directly to the hybrid system. If a/c system on a hybrid car rosak, can consider the whole car rosak, because cannot cool the battery and the controller won’t allow you to drive the car.

Toyota warranty for hybrid components is 8yrs standard for the Cross Hybrid and includes battery, inverter, and controller. They technically should cover the compressor since it’s driven by the hybrid system. If SC don’t agree, tell yapren* to contact Toyota directly. They should cover under warranty. Usually electric compressors are a lot more reliable than regular mechanical compressors since they’re fully sealed. Any fault that occurs is due to negligence during maintenance or installation, both of which are the carmaker’s responsibility.

* Use /k slang in Kopitiam only. Other sections better to use proper language.

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post Apr 26 2023, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Apr 26 2023, 06:51 PM)
On a hybrid, the a/c system is also responsible for cooling the battery. Compressor is not belt-driven. It’s usually called an eCompressor (Denso uses this term) because it’s powered electrically, and it’s connected directly to the hybrid system. If a/c system on a hybrid car rosak, can consider the whole car rosak, because cannot cool the battery and the controller won’t allow you to drive the car.

Toyota warranty for hybrid components is 8yrs standard for the Cross Hybrid and includes battery, inverter, and controller. They technically should cover the compressor since it’s driven by the hybrid system. If SC don’t agree, tell yapren* to contact Toyota directly. They should cover under warranty. Usually electric compressors are a lot more reliable than regular mechanical compressors since they’re fully sealed. Any fault that occurs is due to neglect during maintenance or installation, both of which are the carmaker’s responsibility.

* Use /k slang in Kopitiam only. Other sections better to use proper language.
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Thanks for the info. It is kinda scary, because ordinary aircond compressor needs replacement every 3 ~ 5 years.

And 5K is really unreasonable, because a household aircond is also driven by motor.

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post Apr 27 2023, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Apr 23 2023, 10:16 AM)
Oh now only 2 months? Not 6 months? Wait which model you ordered?
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i booked the hybrid version. SA said it depends dealer ada kabel besar or not.
told me May-June can get car dy.


QUOTE(dev/numb @ Apr 26 2023, 06:51 PM)
On a hybrid, the a/c system is also responsible for cooling the battery. Compressor is not belt-driven. It’s usually called an eCompressor (Denso uses this term) because it’s powered electrically, and it’s connected directly to the hybrid system. If a/c system on a hybrid car rosak, can consider the whole car rosak, because cannot cool the battery and the controller won’t allow you to drive the car.

Toyota warranty for hybrid components is 8yrs standard for the Cross Hybrid and includes battery, inverter, and controller. They technically should cover the compressor since it’s driven by the hybrid system. If SC don’t agree, tell yapren* to contact Toyota directly. They should cover under warranty. Usually electric compressors are a lot more reliable than regular mechanical compressors since they’re fully sealed. Any fault that occurs is due to negligence during maintenance or installation, both of which are the carmaker’s responsibility.

* Use /k slang in Kopitiam only. Other sections better to use proper language.
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Good stuff bro.. need to note this down siaaa.. notworthy.gif
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post Apr 27 2023, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Apr 26 2023, 06:51 PM)
On a hybrid, the a/c system is also responsible for cooling the battery. Compressor is not belt-driven. It’s usually called an eCompressor (Denso uses this term) because it’s powered electrically, and it’s connected directly to the hybrid system. If a/c system on a hybrid car rosak, can consider the whole car rosak, because cannot cool the battery and the controller won’t allow you to drive the car.

Toyota warranty for hybrid components is 8yrs standard for the Cross Hybrid and includes battery, inverter, and controller. They technically should cover the compressor since it’s driven by the hybrid system. If SC don’t agree, tell yapren* to contact Toyota directly. They should cover under warranty. Usually electric compressors are a lot more reliable than regular mechanical compressors since they’re fully sealed. Any fault that occurs is due to negligence during maintenance or installation, both of which are the carmaker’s responsibility.

* Use /k slang in Kopitiam only. Other sections better to use proper language.
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How long before we need to change the compressor?

QUOTE(jibpek @ Apr 26 2023, 07:33 PM)
Thanks for the info. It is kinda scary, because ordinary aircond compressor needs replacement every 3 ~ 5 years.

And 5K is really unreasonable, because a household aircond is also driven by motor.
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QUOTE(melz84 @ Apr 27 2023, 03:56 PM)
i booked the hybrid version. SA said it depends dealer ada kabel besar or not.
told me May-June can get car dy.
Good stuff bro.. need to note this down siaaa.. notworthy.gif
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Congrats! I’m also waiting for mine now.
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post Apr 27 2023, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Apr 27 2023, 07:32 PM)
How long before we need to change the compressor?
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A typical (belt-driven) compressor can easily last 12 - 15 years, or even longer. Depending on factors like how much they’re used (how much mileage you drive), environmental factors (eg; corrosion due to living near salt water) and quality of certain components (like seals and belt). The belt usually gets replaced sooner, like every 5 - 7 years or so.

Electrically driven compressors should, in theory, last longer since they typically spin at lower rev speeds and are better sealed. The downside is that a lot of it is integrated, so a major fault will require replacing the whole unit (OEM MSRP around 5yrs ago was around USD 800 - 1,000). Typically they’re supposed to last the life of the vehicle with proper care* but since they’re quite new tech there’s not enough long term real-world data available to accurate predict their lifespan. Failure rates are rare. If you plan to keep a Hybrid for more than 10 yrs, you should be worrying about the inverter and battery long before you think of the compressor.

* The “care” I refer to is basically inspection, which is Toyota’s job. Hybrid compressor failure in such a relatively new car is 99% caused by wrong amount of oil or coolant levels, installation error, or the unit was faulty to begin with. All of this can only be caused by Toyota (assuming the user never accident or use in industrial environments as commercial vehicle) during installation of the unit when car was assembled, or from their SC negligence during scheduled service. That’s why I asked him to contact Toyota directly if SC staff don’t agree. The warranty doesn’t state compressor is covered, but at the same time it doesn’t explicitly state that it is not covered either, and since it’s an integral part of a hybrid’s cooling system, he can easily make a case for getting it replaced under warranty with only labour charge needing to be covered.

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post May 4 2023, 08:08 AM

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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5376643

Is this going to affect car loans!m? I’m still waiting for 3-4 months ler.
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ May 4 2023, 08:08 AM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5376643

Is this going to affect car loans!m? I’m still waiting for 3-4 months ler.
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if some 0.25% to 1% increase in interest rate going to make u not afford the car, take my advice pls dont go buy it
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post May 4 2023, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(SinzChan @ May 4 2023, 08:21 AM)
if some 0.25% to 1% increase in interest rate going to make u not afford the car, take my advice pls dont go buy it
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I just want to recalculate my budget. I’m asking a simple question whether or not it will increase.
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post May 4 2023, 11:34 AM

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Yes, HP interest can be revised if you still yet get the car.

QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ May 4 2023, 10:46 AM)
I just want to recalculate my budget. I’m asking a simple question whether or not it will increase.
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