Living cost in KL is too much. Unbearable and everyone is just money minded. No money no anything.

Cost of living is very high, comparable to cities like Melbourne or Canberra. I would like to seek another place to migrate and stay, with much lower cost of living

Is East Malaysia good? I heard cities like Kuching or KK are as advanced as Penang and JB. So I guess it's good. Plus, I met many east Malaysian. They are friendly, nice, kind and very helpful. Not materialistic at all.

How's the cost of living?

1st

One bowl of kolo mee is RM5 now in Kuching

sei sohai hamkaling datang lagi

One bowl of hokkien mee in KL is rm18

Only can say for kuching

Food there is reasonable and affordable. Rm3 can get you a big pack of nasi lemak which is very filling. If I'm not mistaken it's a e-mart there

Kolo mee 4-5 ringgit only. Raw materials for cooking food also cheap

Rentals there also relatively cheap

Overall is a nice place to stay, people there are friendly. No racing racing.

Downside, not much entertainment. Pretty chill and quiet kind of life

This post has been edited by lopo90: Mar 5 2022, 09:01 PM

you will be surprised. KK cost of living quite high

Kk Vs Kuching, which city nicer?

How high?

Wtf 18? Who the hell would pay for that

Ukeke dtg lagi

Nice in terms of what? entertainment?

Salary, entertainment, quality of life, security, which city 'higher class'

boss ukeke where is love story for today?

Doesn't matter where as long got fibre internet.

Life in KL is very expensive. I rent a condo unit, rm2700 per month. Food daily one meal at least rm25 including drinks. Put asides activities with friends and other entertainment like spa, movie, gaming, car modification

Can't really comment. Never stayed in KK before.

Whole Malaysia got fiber internet, except in jungle

U from kl? U move to Kuching?

KK here.. advance city? hahahahaahhaha... I'm crying with tears.
It feels more of a big town than a city here as you can cover the whole KK "city" on foot within a day, and the cost of living is definitely no difference than KL..

Food is expensive, rent is expensive, electronics are hard to find unless its a major brand, public transport are almost non existence (thankfully grab/maxim exist), pilaks everywhere, parking almost always unavailable, some shops starts not selling alcoholic drinks, after 7pm almost nothing to do here.. and many more to complaints.

long story short, you stay KL and dun come here.

it's 2022, inflation is global... you can only escape it by escaping the system you're in.

Be independent on :-
Food (Grow own food)
Water (Make water catchment area and system)
Energy (Solar Panels and wind)

This is the basic human need to live.

Ya from KL. Stayed there for 6 months then back now.

20k

Not sure about the price of nasi lemak because I rarely eat it

I'm only familiar with the E-mart at Batu Kawa because of the bowling alleys. Other than that, yes, this is an accurate description of Kuching: Chill and laid back place but doesn't have that many places for entertainment. Good place to stay once you've retired.

Lower cost of living, because u are likely to drive shorter distance, save petrol.
Or u can avoid city/ town area, go to very ulu places, only some grocery shops, so u have no place to spend money.

U live there? The way u comment seems total opposite that what I heard.

I heard kk is quite advance, like penang Johor. Kk very big like JB. Night Entertainment a lot, many Hong Kong people come visit. So, alcohol and clubs a lot.

Food especially seafood is cheap. About rm500-600 for lobster. Rent is cheap too, rm1000-2000 per month for condo. Pilaks wise, I heard. They are actually Malaysians right?

Nasi lemak is western dish

Normally served at hotels/motels bro.

And mamak.

Don't think you can get a job in Sarawak. Peninsula Malaysians need special work permits there

Why? We are all Malaysians. What permit? Same country.

KK is advanced at ripping westerners off.

KK meal prices

Fake boobs fake cigarettes fake boobs..

All fake. Like chaina.

Become farmer (farm at govt land for free )
Take water from the river.
At night burn some wood if u need light.
Self sufficient, no need to spend money.

To be honest, very cheap. U see the portion, very big. Some is seafood dishes, under rm20 is very worth it.

In KL, one dish like hokkien mee rm18, ramen noodles rm35, seafood above rm200-300

Depends on which district you're thinking of staying. Best food and value for money would be Sibu. Avoid oil town like Miri or Bintulu.

Oil town, I actually had friends working there. The salary is so damn high. He works as safety officer or something related to safety. Rm35k per month. Wtf

McDonald's pic also very big

Correct also. Anyway, the food price is affordable actually.

Nowadays, kl food price is crazy. U know I know

Let say u plan to live in kuching, what kind of living space will u choose, apartment? Double storey? Location wise, far from city center or as near as possible to city center?

if u think cost of living in KL is high...thn DO NOT
i repeat DO NOT come to sabah

sabah's cost of living is even higher than KL
basically overtook KL already

I hope to stay in city centre (or furthest would be 30km away). Rm2000 and below rental would be nice.

I would wish to have access to amenities and grocery

How high is Sabah? Mind sharing?

His work is high risk though.

Kl is small place compare to kk and Sarawak...

I choose kl all the time . Kl da best!!!

Dun need talk so much.
East Malaysia is like a republic. No visa no stay. Unless you marry local.
I once heard of a guy working in Bintulu 20yrs. The day he retired he had 3 months tourist visa to leave sarawak.

Quality, choice of food, entertainment, better mall---> kk
Security, cheaper cost of living, cleaner town---> kuching

Dun bother with other towns, you'll be bored till your mother doesnt recognize you.
My choice would be kk.

This post has been edited by krayden: Mar 5 2022, 09:33 PM

Maybe, I do not ask a lot. But like seriously, how the heck are these people salary so fucking high? Got one friend, his job is some sort of offshore engineer. Rm30k in his early 30s. How is that possible?

Working for Google also not so high

not as much food choices
and whatever the same food sold in KL, u add a few more RM...that's the price in sabah

it's very hard to find anything below RM10 here in sabah
and it's certainly harder to find promo compared to KL where promos are everywhere

Quality of life, which city better? Which city is more 'global'?

Offshore workers has a higher rate of divorce and most of the time you spend 2/3 of the year away from family.

Safety workers are responsible for the life of hundreds if not thousands of staffs u fuck up once u think other company will take u in?

What did you heard?
To be honest, it's a big town only not city level and you can count the amount of shopping mall here without using all your finger.
Sure got alot of Mainlanders coming here for vacation but that was before covid, clubs are mostly private or out of the town, city partying is just meh with the bar here but it's cool if you want a relaxing drink. I rather buy a few cans and sit near the likas beach or enjoy at bukit bendera there. after that touge and go home.
Unless you're staying at resorts that has night activity the town/city itself is dead after 9pm.. other than 24hrs shop good luck finding other activity than getting mugged.
Seafood not that cheap also but at least cheaper abit than KL la since the sea is just next to the city. Condo? I'll say fancy apartment got la at that price range.. it's small but if you bachelor is good enough.
Pilaks are what we call those alien immigrant, the bad one.. some of them got IC but I doubt the authenticity, even if got legit chip I doubt it's by legal means they get it.


I don't mean to talk shit about my hometown but there's really not much to do here in KK, I'm too old for getting wild ride already.

This post has been edited by Acher13: Mar 5 2022, 09:51 PM

Security in kk ok?

As long you don't pick fight with the locals there then don't worry, you wont get stabbed in public. lol.
but still I'm serious. lol

i am from kuching. kuching and sibu cost of living is very cheap but oil and gas towns like bintulu where i am currently at and miri is crazily expensive.

30km away is a big no, even less than 20km away u have to face almost 2 hour traffic jam unless u use motobike to work. Maybe surfing mudah can give u a rough idea of rental at kuching

Kk rent a condo also rm2700, daily meal no 40 also hard. Cikit already rm10.50

+100

i quit my job because of this very reason
it's very tiring, all u want to do when u arrive at work is just sleep
long term, you'll develop sleep deprivation

kk is much more expensive than kuching. kk is also more happening and have more things to do than kuching. kuching is very laidback and nothing much to do.

Why always heard kl ppl come kk always kena belas one? Lol

What kk condo rental rm2700?

Sarawak cheaper than Sabah that's for sure. More laidback and nicer environment.

Which state is morr advance?

Almost all around 2000 to 3500 so no different than in kl.
Kk pretty chill compare kl but kk kinda less event than in kl.

Sarawak of course more richer in terms of resources and wealth just that they more laidback like Australia. More land and lesser people. Less crimes too. Life is easier. Closer to Australia also. Cheap beer and lower cost of living.

Kuching for sure, but only if you pandai bahasa sarawak. Ppl dont like outsiders much.

But yee fung laksa wayyyy worth it for the price.

Kuching life way better than KK. More Chinese friendly, more land, cheaper cost of living, fresher air, so much more things to do.

Which state household richer and wealthier?

Kuching food cheap

Thanks, I may choose Kuching. More Chinese, can mingle easily.

If you ask me moreless the same but kuching food way cheaper than kk is real like almost 60% cheaper.

Idk, i can make friends with pilak, most races except chinese from kl. when i working in kl, my kolik keep ask me, wow how do you know almost everyone in the mall from vendor to the janitor. But i rare can be friend with kl chinese, say abit already sakit hati.

This post has been edited by RallyNight: Mar 5 2022, 10:20 PM

Kuching Vs kk which more advance?

Kuching is very cheap to live in, but property prices have been increasing quite a bit. Kolo mee is the benchmark but laksa can be double in price.

Also, remember that Borneo is an island so everything that is not local is more expensive than KL, as you'll need to cover the shopping costs etc. Same for flights to anywhere, you normally need to add KCH-KL leg and the time.

A non Sarawakian would need a permit, pass, or visa to stay long term... even if you marry a local. The bright side is, if you marry a Sarawakian bumi, your children will be bumi.

kena belas? cultural difference kut.. Like pantat word, in KL it's vulgar but in KK it just mean your behind.. I kena before when first time in KL lol.
but the local I'm meant to be careful of is those pilaks.. they're the equivalent of niggers here, real sabahan are people friendly naturally especially after you share booze with them.

What is the benefit of Sarawak bumi compare west bumi?

Sabah is actually politicized by Bumis for controlling the parliamentary seats that's the only reason why they keep concentrating development there.
In terms of resources and wealth don't underestimate Sarawakians. Lots of rich Chinese families from there who owns estates and commodities due to the vast natural resources there.

Depends on whether you're Chinese or Bumi or not. Pork seems to be no issue in Kuching just like Penang, it's a Chinese community stronghold. If you're Bumi, KK will be better choice for you. Lots of illegal Filipinos there though and also higher crime rates.

Why do Sabah have so many illegal immigrants?

Kk moreadvance but selling the same thing anywhere

Lmao, thats is true, always hear kl people go segamat and get pickpocket and nab. Lol.

Closer to Philippines and Sulu islands?

Rampant corruption?

Ask McKutty the national traitor.

Property prices still no where at Penang and Klang Valley areas. Too many unsold condominium units because got lots of land, if not wrong Kuching city land area is the largest among all major Malaysian cities. People prefer to live in landed.

Kampua RM3.20

Which cheong scene better? KK or Kuching?

Oh that one KK may be better since lots more illegals and crimes over there.

Kuching more suited for peaceful family life and friendlier people.

Sarawak mostly if look at the high building from far looks very clear most days unlike KL where the KLCC always blurry or hazy when look from far.

The climate and air in Kuching is quite nice compared to many Malaysian cities. Clean and not too hot where it is located at the southern end of Sarawak state.

Closer to Indonesia's upcoming new capital city Nusantara too

raised in both kk and kch,
to me kuching is cheaper than KK for your question,
whichever better, neither..its depend on your preference,
and also depend on who you ask

Are you generalizing KK with Sabah? AFAIK smaller cities like Sandakan and Tawau is still quite cheap though. Seafoods are pretty much 3 times cheaper than KL. You can get Grouper for less than Rm50 a Kg easily.

This post has been edited by Breaktru: Mar 5 2022, 10:38 PM

Currently residing in Sarawak...moved back from KL some years back.
Yes the living expenses here are cheap.
Rented a couple of rooms here and there before. Had a middle room that's rm550 inclusive of electric and water bills.
Rented another small room in another city with no aircon RM300.

Food expense = RM700 max
Eat out = rm500
Entertainment = rm200

Like sure the expenses here are like dirt cheap. But don't forget the salaries are soviet rates too unless you are working in banks or some bigger companies. You may have to come back and work Saturdays too.

sandakan and tawau is far from kk
and it's not like a lot cheaper...food is still like RM8 or so(and up)
and bro, who eat seafood everyday because it's cheaper than KL?

do u know how cheap food are outside of sabah?
same EM, u go kch..u can eat kolo mee for RM4, u can't get anything in sabah for RM4
go penang...RM6 basically can fill up your stomach....my friend ordered spagetti cabonara salmon RM8

once u step out of sabah, you'll know how expensive sabah's food are

I heard Soviet salary are comparable to kl. Not to mention offshore, but normal salary is about 8k-9k for early 30s

No unless you work for the MNCs like O&G in Miri.
Miri FYI is not cheap though because of its close proximity to Brunei which has high buying power and crossover.

If you work for local companies, the pay rate is just like most other 2nd tier cities in West Malaysia like Ipoh, Seremban or Kuantan. Very low rates because of cheaper standard of living here.

This post has been edited by petpenyubobo: Mar 5 2022, 10:53 PM

O&G only 8-9k? Dude, how the heck two of my friends earning 30-40k in offshore still had me shock. No one earning lower than 10k in offshore.

Dimsum in bintulu cost rm6-7 per small basket
Miri only rm3.50-rm4

Housing n rental in Bintulu the most expensive in Swak

This post has been edited by haroldz123: Mar 5 2022, 11:05 PM

Nice to eat?

best if can find sarawakian gf like this

Please dont come here.... Just stay in kv.....

Nice if u know which dishes are sedap at that shop.
But never try in Bintulu since 2019 bcos it was overpriced

Some place RM3.50 only

More like one plate lol