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post Mar 5 2022, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(Murrowping @ Mar 5 2022, 08:56 PM)
Living cost in KL is too much. Unbearable and everyone is just money minded. No money no anything.

Cost of living is very high, comparable to cities like Melbourne or Canberra. I would like to seek another place to migrate and stay, with much lower cost of living

Is East Malaysia good? I heard cities like Kuching or KK are as advanced as Penang and JB. So I guess it's good. Plus, I met many east Malaysian. They are friendly, nice, kind and very helpful. Not materialistic at all.

How's the cost of living?
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Sarawak cheaper than Sabah that's for sure. More laidback and nicer environment.


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post Mar 5 2022, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(Murrowping @ Mar 5 2022, 10:07 PM)
Which state is morr advance?
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Sarawak of course more richer in terms of resources and wealth just that they more laidback like Australia. More land and lesser people. Less crimes too. Life is easier. Closer to Australia also. Cheap beer and lower cost of living.
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post Mar 5 2022, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(RallyNight @ Mar 5 2022, 10:07 PM)
Almost all around 2000 to 3500 so no different than in kl.
Kk pretty chill compare kl but kk kinda less event than in kl.
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Kuching life way better than KK. More Chinese friendly, more land, cheaper cost of living, fresher air, so much more things to do.
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post Mar 5 2022, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Murrowping @ Mar 5 2022, 10:11 PM)
Which state household richer and wealthier?
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Sabah is actually politicized by Bumis for controlling the parliamentary seats that's the only reason why they keep concentrating development there.
In terms of resources and wealth don't underestimate Sarawakians. Lots of rich Chinese families from there who owns estates and commodities due to the vast natural resources there.

Depends on whether you're Chinese or Bumi or not. Pork seems to be no issue in Kuching just like Penang, it's a Chinese community stronghold. If you're Bumi, KK will be better choice for you. Lots of illegal Filipinos there though and also higher crime rates.
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post Mar 5 2022, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(Murrowping @ Mar 5 2022, 10:18 PM)
Why do Sabah have so many illegal immigrants?
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Closer to Philippines and Sulu islands?

Rampant corruption?
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post Mar 5 2022, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Mar 5 2022, 10:14 PM)
Kuching is very cheap to live in, but property prices have been increasing quite a bit. Kolo mee is the benchmark but laksa can be double in price.

Also, remember that Borneo is an island so everything that is not local is more expensive than KL, as you'll need to cover the shopping costs etc. Same for flights to anywhere, you normally need to add KCH-KL leg and the time.

A non Sarawakian would need a permit, pass, or visa to stay long term... even if you marry a local. The bright side is, if you marry a Sarawakian bumi, your children will be bumi.
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Property prices still no where at Penang and Klang Valley areas. Too many unsold condominium units because got lots of land, if not wrong Kuching city land area is the largest among all major Malaysian cities. People prefer to live in landed.
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QUOTE(mrg220t @ Mar 5 2022, 10:26 PM)
Which cheong scene better? KK or Kuching?
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Oh that one KK may be better since lots more illegals and crimes over there.

Kuching more suited for peaceful family life and friendlier people.
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post Mar 5 2022, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(filage @ Mar 5 2022, 10:32 PM)
Sarawak mostly if look at the high building from far looks very clear most days unlike KL where the KLCC always blurry or hazy when  look from far.
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The climate and air in Kuching is quite nice compared to many Malaysian cities. Clean and not too hot where it is located at the southern end of Sarawak state.

Closer to Indonesia's upcoming new capital city Nusantara too thumbsup.gif
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post Mar 5 2022, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(Murrowping @ Mar 5 2022, 10:49 PM)
I heard Soviet salary are comparable to kl. Not to mention offshore, but normal salary is about 8k-9k for early 30s
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No unless you work for the MNCs like O&G in Miri.
Miri FYI is not cheap though because of its close proximity to Brunei which has high buying power and crossover.

If you work for local companies, the pay rate is just like most other 2nd tier cities in West Malaysia like Ipoh, Seremban or Kuantan. Very low rates because of cheaper standard of living here.

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post Mar 6 2022, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(krayden @ Mar 6 2022, 12:51 AM)
i prefer kk. more things to do. islands, mountains, imago mall like a mini midvalley, direct flight for holiday to japang,korea, definitely better food (some cant even find in kl)
But....
a bit more expensive than kch. if you're used to kl then its not shocking.
a bit less safe. I remember walking into centrepoint a few years back and feeling like i could get robbed at every corner (although nothing happened). fights in centrepoint is not unheard of. some kampung air areas even polis dun go in. its fine if you avoid a few places.
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everything moves at a snails pace. line up in Giant also dem slow compared to kl.
But generally ppl are friendly.

global? bro, i drove around at night in kk and wondered why its so dark, not like in kl you can a lot of times drive without lights. Just a stark contrast that i noticed.
i'd say kk is closer to malacca than to penang.
when i first went there to work in the 90s we took a drive in town on the first day. after 15mins, huh? thats it?
now of course its bigger but i believe subang+usj is bigger than kk.

You wanna move anywhere, better visit one or 2 weeks and look see first.
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Kuching (Cat) City got VivaCity Megamall, The Boulevard, The Spring, AEON Kuching Central, and Plaza Merdeka. All huge mall complexes that can rival malls in major cities.

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post Mar 6 2022, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(thedannyguy @ Mar 6 2022, 12:55 AM)
how long can oil and timber last? petronas says in. 2019 only last 10 years. Assuming a more conservative estimate i give 15-20 years. Probably retiring there is ok but state govt probably is cash-strapped to run public services , infrastructure and road maintenance
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Kuching is like Penang where the Chinese community still hold majority of its economic strength. Most of the supermarkets and shops you go to many signs in Chinese where many of its population attended SJKC.
These are the last remaining stronghold of Chinese populated cities in Malaysia.
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post Mar 6 2022, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 6 2022, 10:08 AM)
Those 60-year-lease condos are extremely expensive by WM's standard. They're more expensive than a similarly sized FH condo in Penang or even KV.

And old houses in areas like BDC or Tabuan can be more expensive than a house in Subang Jaya.
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All waiting to rot. You go Penang and KV nowadays. Most of the newly built condos all less than 50% occupied. Empty one especially the luxury and high end ones.

When you move in most likely you're the only one living on the floor. Scary.

Dunno how these developers still surviving.

 

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