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post Mar 1 2022, 08:59 AM, updated 4y ago

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Sos: https://waupost.com/primary-6-students-in-c...o-enter-form-1/

Sos 2: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...r-bm-to/2044239

If not your children become sampah masyarakat, can't even finish basic education, future gone just because you can't understand Malay

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QUOTE(CoolStoryWriter @ Mar 1 2022, 08:59 AM)
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If not your children become sampah masyarakat, can't even finish basic education, future gone just because you can't understand Malay like the billions of people in this world.
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no SOS ka, fark TS
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:02 AM

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Provide the source.
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:03 AM

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So SK can fail BM is it?
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:03 AM

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Singapore not that far u know.
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:04 AM

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can't find anything on the mainstream newspapers on this. this is sus
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:05 AM

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Already provided y'all adult infants can't Google meh
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:07 AM

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but but but last time during my primary and secondary plenty of oren fail bm leh..how?
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Mar 1 2022, 10:07 AM)
but but but last time during my primary and secondary plenty of oren fail bm leh..how?
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janji mempersoal tongkat clan
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:09 AM

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masuk reform je la
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Mar 1 2022, 09:07 AM)
but but but last time during my primary and secondary plenty of oren fail bm leh..how?
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Duh that's why we have rempit slang
We don't want that
Fucking eye sore

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post Mar 1 2022, 09:11 AM

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dont worry, they have quota to help them even when they fail in subjects
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:12 AM

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The kids that goes international school probably has even less command in BM. Of course they have an exit for that.
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(CoolStoryWriter @ Mar 1 2022, 08:59 AM)

If not your children become sampah masyarakat, can't even finish basic education, future gone just because you can't understand Malay like the billions of people in this world.

Best of all, this MCA guy is the one advocating this. Mana ketuanan Cina?!
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Bodoh la, gang rempit how? They also fail. No need study can rempit earlier?

Gov not smart is always a big problem in Malaysia.
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(CoolStoryWriter @ Mar 1 2022, 09:59 AM)
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Sos: https://waupost.com/primary-6-students-in-c...o-enter-form-1/

Sos 2: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...r-bm-to/2044239

If not your children become sampah masyarakat, can't even finish basic education, future gone just because you can't understand Malay like the billions of people in this world.

Best of all, this MCA guy is the one advocating this. Mana ketuanan Cina?!
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Feel like papa mama old time school rules also like this, history sure repeat itself.

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post Mar 1 2022, 09:14 AM

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post Mar 1 2022, 09:14 AM

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MCA is wat Lee Kuan Yew called a eunuch. You know what is a eunuch?
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:15 AM

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last time standard 6 my oren teacher go show pattern , he said he will try and do the BM paper himself while we are sitting for the exam
objective paper so no bias

end up he get 80+
i get 90 +
then he said he do it very fast so cannot compare to me... coz i was given an hour
fk..
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:16 AM

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twist of word

TP4-TP6 to skip peralihan only

if TP1-TP3 then gotta masuk peraliha.

alaa macam la tak biasa zaman upsr dulu2. dapat A straight to form 1, everything else masuk peralihan first.
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Mar 1 2022, 09:07 AM)
but but but last time during my primary and secondary plenty of oren fail bm leh..how?
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QUOTE(Throwaway0 @ Mar 1 2022, 09:11 AM)
dont worry, they have quota to help them even when they fail in subjects
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QUOTE(Kevin Durian @ Mar 1 2022, 09:12 AM)
Bodoh la, gang rempit how? They also fail. No need study can rempit earlier?

Gov not smart is always a big problem in Malaysia.
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Tak kan *** hilang dari bumi?

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QUOTE(Kevin Durian @ Mar 1 2022, 09:12 AM)
Bodoh la, gang rempit how? They also fail. No need study can rempit earlier?

Gov not smart is always a big problem in Malaysia.
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Yala, how to win vote if the voters are smart? make them dumdum then any conman no need big effort to con them mah.
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:18 AM

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only 2 pages? this is a very bad policy... go and drink palm oil
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:19 AM

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go International School no need BM,... International school is sampah masyarakat ??
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:20 AM

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What's so hard to pass a subject of a language of a country that you are born in?
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(Akaashi @ Mar 1 2022, 10:20 AM)
What's so hard to pass a subject of a language of a country that you are born in?
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As hard as getting EQUAL TREATMENT in the country you are born in, no division by bumi/non bumi privileges.

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post Mar 1 2022, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(Akaashi @ Mar 1 2022, 09:20 AM)
What's so hard to pass a subject of a language of a country that you are born in?
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even malay fail BM,.. talk every day also fail means what ??
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:25 AM

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whats TP4 to TP6

i thought last time is A, A+, A-, no?

if from SK, you fail BM, also cannot masuk form 1 what. masuk peralihan
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study only la...gv so much excuse for wat..cry here n there..it;s not about comparing sjck or srk..it;s bout individual itself, after all cainis kan selfish, tink bout ourself first then only compare..BM only u scare for fux meh..like never handle pressure b4..last time oso same ma go peralihan..
tell ur children, work hard so u can survive elsewhere, now days parents gettin more strawberry, dah kita memang menumpang, don komplen...
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 09:24 AM)
even malay fail BM,.. talk every day also fail means what ??
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That's their own problem. Why would we want to be on the same level? Be better.
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QUOTE(CoolStoryWriter @ Mar 1 2022, 08:59 AM)
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Sos: https://waupost.com/primary-6-students-in-c...o-enter-form-1/

Sos 2: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...r-bm-to/2044239

If not your children become sampah masyarakat, can't even finish basic education, future gone just because you can't understand Malay like the billions of people in this world.

Best of all, this MCA guy is the one advocating this. Mana ketuanan Cina?!
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always felt if SJK one failed on this point

its never a problem for them to excel in language dept
but the society indirect pressure really put a bump to it

should have BR/RL as well to be able to live in Malaysia now
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(Akaashi @ Mar 1 2022, 09:32 AM)
That's their own problem. Why would we want to be on the same level? Be better.
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ya,.. thats their own problem,.. then why u upset on some people got learning disability on your previous comment ,..???
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foundation is remove class?
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 09:36 AM)
ya,.. thats their own problem,.. then why u upset on some people got learning disability on your previous comment ,..???
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Was referring to ppl who complain about the said requirements applies to Sjkc or sjkt. Malays want to failed their own native language = their own problem.
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if born and raised in malaysia but can't understand BM then you are indeed trash

inb4 retards replying "bUt MeLeiS ALsO fAIL BM"

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QUOTE(jibpek @ Mar 1 2022, 09:03 AM)
So SK can fail BM is it?
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No cert = can’t go anywhere cry.gif

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is this new? i rem if BM no pass cannot graduate from SPM also

UPSR last time also same right?
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back in my days we need to score straight As to skip remove class...
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QUOTE(amir.asyraf @ Mar 1 2022, 09:42 AM)
if born and raised in malaysia but can't understand BM then you are indeed trash
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Understand is one thing, speak bahasa pasar bahasa rempit is diff thing. Malay who can't even score above average is even more trash compare to nons if that's what u implying.
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QUOTE(Akaashi @ Mar 1 2022, 09:41 AM)
Was referring to ppl who complain about the said requirements applies to Sjkc or sjkt.  Malays want to failed their own native language = their own problem.
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thats their problem also,.. and your problem is ???
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QUOTE(Akaashi @ Mar 1 2022, 09:46 AM)
Understand is one thing, speak bahasa pasar bahasa rempit is diff thing. Malay who can't even score above average is even more trash compare to nons if that's what u implying.
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referring to this statement by ts la:

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future gone just because you can't understand Malay like the billions of people in this world

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QUOTE(amir.asyraf @ Mar 1 2022, 09:42 AM)
if born and raised in malaysia but can't understand BM then you are indeed trash

inb4 retards replying "bUt MeLeiS ALsO fAIL BM"
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born and raise in malaysia,.. . can't understand Chinese or Tamil,.. izit trash ???
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No more Remove classes for SRJK © or (T)?
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 09:49 AM)
born and raise  in malaysia,.. . can't understand Chinese or Tamil,.. izit trash ???
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umm chinese and tamil both not official nor national language
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QUOTE(CoolStoryWriter @ Mar 1 2022, 08:59 AM)
If not your children become sampah masyarakat, can't even finish basic education, future gone just because you can't understand Malay like the billions of people in this world
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Is that a prerogative to drive away all the other races out of country?? blush.gif

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 09:46 AM)
thats their problem also,.. and your problem is ???
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I don't have problems. Just wondering what's so hard to pass a mandatory language subject.
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1. Actually should know basic BM
2. also pls la curb those bahasa rempit la.
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BM is much easier to master compared to other languages
dunno why some meleis also can fail BM
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QUOTE(amir.asyraf @ Mar 1 2022, 09:51 AM)
umm chinese and tamil both not official nor national language
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official or not,.... since your argument is born and raise in malaysia,... would u encounter everyday ???

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bm sap sap sui. y complaint
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QUOTE(styrwr91 @ Mar 1 2022, 09:44 AM)
is this new? i rem if BM no pass cannot graduate from SPM also

UPSR last time also same right?
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It's not new. This is bait. Early morning racing.

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QUOTE(JustAskingOnly @ Mar 1 2022, 09:51 AM)
1. Actually should know basic BM
2. also pls la curb those bahasa rempit la.
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QUOTE(Akaashi @ Mar 1 2022, 09:51 AM)
I don't have problems. Just wondering what's so hard to pass a mandatory language subject.
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whats percentage of SRJK fail BM ???... how u presume it's hard ???..... why BM a mandatory language,.. not english ???
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No worries. Got International School, got UEC. Go fark yourself lah Penyu.
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Bahasa Melayu > Bahasa Inggeris, awak tidak faham, itu masalah awak
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:58 AM

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then send your kids to SK lor.
Easy kan?
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 09:52 AM)
official or not,.... would u encounter everyday ???
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everyday? Considering a large % of the population, not just malays, knows BM already, no.

Besides, BM is supposed to be the single unifying language and national identity. The koreans got their korean language, the japanese got their japanese language, the french got their french language, we have our BM. Why some people in this country trying so hard to push that away?
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QUOTE(amir.asyraf @ Mar 1 2022, 09:58 AM)
everyday? Considering a large % of the population, not just malays, knows BM already, no.

Besides, BM is supposed to be the single unifying language and national identity. The koreans got their korean language, the japanese got their japanese language, the french got their french language, we have our BM. Why some people in this country trying so hard to push that away?
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As much as I feel that BM usage is limited fact of the matter is its our national language.

We can argue about its usage but at the end all gov institution uses it. No harm learning it, at least the bare basic.
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QUOTE(amir.asyraf @ Mar 1 2022, 09:58 AM)
everyday? Considering a large % of the population, not just malays, knows BM already, no.

Besides, BM is supposed to be the single unifying language and national identity. The koreans got their korean language, the japanese got their japanese language, the french got their french language, we have our BM. Why some people in this country trying so hard to push that away?
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Speak bm well can get equal treatment in Malaysia or not? 🥺
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QUOTE(amir.asyraf @ Mar 1 2022, 09:58 AM)
everyday? Considering a large % of the population, not just malays, knows BM already, no.

Besides, BM is supposed to be the single unifying language and national identity. The koreans got their korean language, the japanese got their japanese language, the french got their french language, we have our BM. Why some people in this country trying so hard to push that away?
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nope,.. it's English since few hundreds years ago,... only the 70's changing to BM,.. some more BM standard changing every few years,.. just read BM literature of Munsyi Abdullah,.. pre merdeka era,.. post merdeka era,.. and current era (mix with arabian language),..
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 09:56 AM)
whats percentage of SRJK fail BM ???... how u presume it's hard ???.....  why BM a mandatory language,.. not english ???
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If it's not hard den why worry about the tp4 tp6 requirements? Business as usual la.

Both BM and BI are mandatory la you doofus. Meaning they are not elective subjects.
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 10:02 AM)
nope,.. it's English since few hundreds years ago,... only the 70's changing to BM,.. some more BM standard changing every few years,.. just read BM literature of Munsyi Abdullah,.. pre merdeka era,.. post merdeka era,.. and current era (mix with arabian language),..
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lmao why do you think that is la aiyoo.. people under occupation didn't really have the choice did they?

and no shit language change and evolve over time. Not sure what you're trying to even prove here
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QUOTE(pipedream @ Mar 1 2022, 10:01 AM)
Speak bm well can get equal treatment in Malaysia or not? 🥺
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indonesian chinese used indonesian name also still get kecam by hardcore nationalist,..
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TP4 is like B- or C no? Means if you have basic proficiency can get liao.
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 10:05 AM)
indonesian chinese used indonesian name also still get kecam by hardcore nationalist,..
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Raped and killed.

Speak Indon got mat lan use.
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Before we comment further, can we know the difficulty of BM assessments?

How hard is it to get. TP4?

INB4. my ADHD nephew passed UPSR to go to form 1, skipping remove class. His marks for internal exams from Std 1-6 were usually below 30% for all subjects.

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QUOTE(pipedream @ Mar 1 2022, 10:01 AM)
Speak bm well can get equal treatment in Malaysia or not? 🥺
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knowing BM and the racist backwards policy are 2 different matters. If you resent the national language just because you're tertindas, then that's just stupid
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QUOTE(Akaashi @ Mar 1 2022, 10:03 AM)
If it's not hard den why worry about the tp4 tp6 requirements? Business as usual la.

Both BM and BI are mandatory la you doofus. Meaning they are not elective subjects.
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primary school SRJK requirement on this thread include BI ???...

what is TP4 and TP6 anyway ??
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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Mar 1 2022, 09:16 AM)
twist of word

TP4-TP6 to skip peralihan only

if TP1-TP3 then gotta masuk peraliha.

alaa macam la tak biasa zaman upsr dulu2. dapat A straight to form 1, everything else masuk peralihan first.
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Election time. Easy to ‘twist’ here and there and voila!!! People blame MCA !!! Hahaha.

This has been in place since donkey years already. If u fail to reach a certain level of Malay proficiency, u go peralihan. Otherwise, u go form 1 straight!

Sometimes, we politicise half truths and make it into a lie. But because the person who viral it is ‘Chinese hero’, we believe it is true.

Haiz…
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What the heck is TP4? No more A B C ka???
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My son from SJKT going straight to form one. 2 from his class going to remove.
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QUOTE(amir.asyraf @ Mar 1 2022, 10:04 AM)
lmao why do you think that is la aiyoo.. people under occupation didn't really have the choice did they?

and no shit language change and evolve over time. Not sure what you're trying to even prove here
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how come today many countries not under occupation,.. is using English as lingua franca ??..


no shit language change and evolve,.. but BM was bastardised with arabian,.. most non malay do not understand all those new arabian words,...

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knowing BM and the racist backwards policy are 2 different matters. If you resent the national language just because you're tertindas, then that's just stupid
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I'm with you on this. National language also want to racing. Born and raised in msia but cannot speak bm, you're a charsiew. Just ignore those idiots, I also cannot tahan these dumbasses.
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 10:08 AM)
primary school SRJK requirement on this thread include BI ???...

what is TP4 and TP6 anyway ??
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Becoz cb like you would ignore BM if they don't make it a requirement. Like some already said, it is not something new pun
Why making a fuss now?

If you don't even know what's TP4 - TP6 is, apasal bising pulak?
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I'm with you on this. National language also want to racing. Born and raised in msia but cannot speak bm, you're a charsiew. Just ignore those idiots, I also cannot tahan these dumbasses.
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born and raise in malaysia dunno English ,.. lagi sampah,..
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QUOTE(Akaashi @ Mar 1 2022, 10:15 AM)
Becoz cb like you would ignore BM if they don't make it a requirement. Like some already said, it is not something new pun
Why making a fuss now?

If you don't even know what's TP4 - TP6 is,  apasal bising pulak?
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so ad hominem makes u win argument ???.. all those MNC must be cibai also ignoring BM,...
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Biasalah migrant
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Whats the practical, economical, scientific and technological advantage of BM, other than day-to-day conversation with malays, most probly at pasar or gerai?

If im migrant in France, I gladly learn french.
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but but but last time during my primary and secondary plenty of oren fail bm leh..how?
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born and raise  in malaysia,.. . can't understand Chinese or Tamil,.. izit trash ???
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what about fail in Chinese or Tamil?
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QUOTE(Akaashi @ Mar 1 2022, 10:15 AM)
Becoz cb like you would ignore BM if they don't make it a requirement. Like some already said, it is not something new pun
Why making a fuss now?

If you don't even know what's TP4 - TP6 is,  apasal bising pulak?
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so dunno TP4 and TP6,.. tak boleh tanya ???.. kira bising ???... u got IQ problem or EQ problem ??
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QUOTE(jueiri @ Mar 1 2022, 10:21 AM)
Whats the practical, economical, scientific and technological advantage of BM, other than day-to-day conversation with malays, most probly at pasar or gerai?

If im migrant in France,  I gladly learn french.
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Migrant always creating excuses. It's normal.
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Migrant always creating excuses. It's normal.
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Malay not Migrant ???.. i remember P .Ramli was not born here,..
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My bm was learn during secondary....

During primary bm so so only can't even speak well and karangan

My thought is environment is best way to learn new language but of cause if education minister / department dont suka suka change this and that like that trouble teacher and student

Me last time upsr pmr spm all hit the studpid new system which teacher even dont know how to teach cause no guide line
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Just learn your BM, you are living in Malaysia for fark sake.
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Mar 1 2022, 10:14 AM)
I'm with you on this. National language also want to racing. Born and raised in msia but cannot speak bm, you're a charsiew. Just ignore those idiots, I also cannot tahan these dumbasses.
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speak 67 la..

x can become tak/tidak, korg, diorg, all sort short forms in bahasa being used in daily comm. then laugh non for using baku. laugh sabahan sounds like indon.

u guys are not proud of your own language yet try to find bone in an egg.



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TP4 to TP6 hard meh ? only affect those that are poor in studies, and afterall its up to school to grade, school sure can help grade nicely if vernacular
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meanwhile england fail still can go up

then blame marehsie england so bad
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Malay not Migrant ???.. i remember P .Ramli was not born here,..
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Whats the practical, economical, scientific and technological advantage of BM, other than day-to-day conversation with malays, most probly at pasar or gerai?

If im migrant in France,  I gladly learn french.
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That's cause you live in a bubble. No mix with other races of course no need bm. After that complain tertindas in your bubble.

If you're migrant in France but only stay in Chinatown, also no need learn French.

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so ad hominem makes u win argument ???.. all those MNC must be cibai also ignoring BM,...
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No. I gain no pride winning an argument against a racing doofus. If that hurts it feeling I can always reword them.

"Becoz obnoxious ignorant racist like you would ignore BM if they don't make it a requirement"

Its up to the MNC policy they wanna prioritise BM or not. So since this country ('company' in a sense) wish to prioritise BM, u as employee, have to follow kan? If not, leave the country/company lor (wow I can't believe I say this as a non)

By the way don't be so shameless to equal urself as MNC.
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Nope. We are still from the nearest land that use BM as part of the language.
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so language determine who migrant or not ???,.. not place u born and raise,..
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What is tp?
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Leaning Outcome something like that.
No UPSR forced to use this checkpoint lo.

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Mar 1 2022, 10:14 AM)
I'm with you on this. National language also want to racing. Born and raised in msia but cannot speak bm, you're a charsiew. Just ignore those idiots, I also cannot tahan these dumbasses.
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last time in spm, my bm tuition teacher ask us to put in "keywords" like insyaallah or alhamdulilah in karangan because can score brownie points in spm

i wonder why is that? who's racing now?

btw my bm A in spm laugh.gif
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nevermind lah learn for what?

cant even use it in indonesia
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No. I gain no pride winning an argument against a racing doofus. If that hurts it feeling I can always reword them.

"Becoz obnoxious ignorant racist  like you would ignore BM if they don't make it a requirement"

Its up to the MNC policy they wanna prioritise BM or not. So since this country ('company' in a sense) wish to prioritise BM, u as employee, have to follow kan? If not, leave the country/company lor (wow I can't believe I say this as a non)

By the way don't be so shameless to equal urself as MNC.
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only MNC ignoring BM ???.. nearly 80% of malaysia company not using BM for their company correspondance,..some even malay company,.. they must be cibai and obnoxious racist also,...
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Am wondering too what is TP 4 and 6 compare with those days std?
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Actually, no problem at all. U know kids can be trained to get perfect score in BM but at the same time cannot speak BM right? Trained by tuition centers,
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so language determine who migrant or not ???,.. not place u born and raise,..
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Sos 2: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...r-bm-to/2044239

If not your children become sampah masyarakat, can't even finish basic education, future gone just because you can't understand Malay like the billions of people in this world
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Nobody is stopping you from joining the billions of people in this world who can't understand Malay in their country. In other words, you tak suka, you keluar whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 10:37 AM)
only MNC ignoring BM ???.. nearly 80% of malaysia company not using BM for their company correspondance,..some even malay company,.. they must be cibai and obnoxious racist also,...
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Until you pull up an actual source on that, I will continue ignore that statement.

Keep on complaining and racing in a forum anonymously behind keyboard, my obnoxious ignorant racist ktard. Becoz I am sure it helps in both urs and the country well being.
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Yes I assume people who don't speak local language as migrant. They surely have so many excuses not to speak local language unless they are really a local.
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so russian speaking Ukraine is migrant ???.. Germen speaking Swiss is migrant ?? Hindi speaking Sri lankan is migrant ??
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Until you pull up an actual source on that, I will continue ignore that statement.

Keep on complaining and racing in a forum anonymously behind keyboard, my obnoxious ignorant racist ktard. Becoz I am sure it helps in both urs and the country well being.
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u confirm not IQ problem,.. EQ problem,..
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Bm important cuz I need to order mekdi and kepci daily.
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don care.. going to chinese independent school.. take UEC.. then straight to overseas uni tongue.gif
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Bm important cuz I need to order mekdi and kepci daily.
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machine ordering got 3 language,.. even ATM,..
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 10:44 AM)
so russian speaking Ukraine is migrant ???.. Germen speaking Swiss is migrant ??  Hindi speaking Sri lankan is migrant ??
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So many excuses lol
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QUOTE(Akaashi @ Mar 1 2022, 10:41 AM)
Until you pull up an actual source on that, I will continue ignore that statement.

Keep on complaining and racing in a forum anonymously behind keyboard, my obnoxious ignorant racist ktard. Becoz I am sure it helps in both urs and the country well being.
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Press ignore them. I'm actually very proud that I'm multi lingual. I don't know why they so adamant on only mono lingual. Like know more language will dilute their babiness. (I assume they are all babi like me).
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Sos 2: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...r-bm-to/2044239

If not your children become sampah masyarakat, can't even finish basic education, future gone just because you can't understand Malay like the billions of people in this world
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Can masuk SMK what

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don care.. going to chinese independent school.. take UEC.. then straight to overseas uni tongue.gif
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In order to enter CIS, students need to get above 80% averages marks in UPSR.

They can pass SPM BM easily.
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u think education can get u a decent job in 2022 nowsaday?
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machine ordering got 3 language,.. even ATM,..
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Still important cuz i need to speak bm to my kakak (indon maid)

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u confirm not IQ problem,.. EQ problem,..
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Whatever makes you happy, my obnoxious ktard.

I am sure both ur IQ and EQ are off the chart.
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All these Tp tp is evaluated by teacher. Usually teacher just giv higher tp to achieve kpi. So no worries la.
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Mar 1 2022, 10:31 AM)
That's cause you live in a bubble. No mix with other races of course no need bm. After that complain tertindas in your bubble.

If you're migrant in France but only stay in Chinatown, also no need learn French.
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Who says im no mingle wif other races? Its on everyday basis. And the use of Malay language stops at there, the everyday conversation.

If you're migrant in France but only stay in Chinatown, also no need learn French.
Tis a blatant misinformation. Chinese staying in chinatown of the host country, mostly can speak their languages be it french, spanish or german.
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So many excuses lol
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ya,.. right,.. language to determine migrant or not,.. is not lame excuse ...
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Sos 2: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...r-bm-to/2044239

If not your children become sampah masyarakat, can't even finish basic education, future gone just because you can't understand Malay like the billions of people in this world
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I got 'A' in Malay, UPSR
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so russian speaking Ukraine is migrant ???.. Germen speaking Swiss is migrant ??  Hindi speaking Sri lankan is migrant ??
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Those russian can also speak fluent russian language, those german too can speak fluent german language, and those hindi too can speak fluent hindi. What's some of the debates here were about those who can't speak the national language despite claimed to be the citizen, not the ability to speak other language

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You need, Bahasa to talk to jokowi..
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Mar 1 2022, 10:49 AM)
Press ignore them. I'm actually very proud that I'm multi lingual. I don't know why they so adamant on only mono lingual. Like know more language will dilute their babiness. (I assume they are all babi like me).
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Malay is easy, the spelling just makes sense, no special grammar/spellings like in English, not different strokes like Chinese. if can't master it then don't talk about other languages.
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QUOTE(Exiled_Gundam @ Mar 1 2022, 10:56 AM)
Those russian can also speak fluent russian language, those german too can speak fluent german language, and those hindi too can speak fluent hindi. What's some of the debates here were about those who can't speak the national language despite claimed to be the citizen, not the ability to speak other language
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do u know Swiss got 4 national language ???
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Mar 1 2022, 10:40 AM)
Yes I assume people who don't speak local language as migrant. They surely have so many excuses not to speak local language unless they are really a local.
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yeah... we got pendalaman orang asli with no so great command of malay language and they have their own native language... those considered as migrant too?

the excuse is... u know how hard for them to get passable education...

pls dont live in ur own luxurious bubble that u dont care about other ppl lives
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do u know Swiss got 4 national language ???
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Yes. But Malaysia only one. You live in Switzerland or Malaysia?
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Mastery of English and willingness to read further is more important; to avoid being fed half info...

"Deputy Education Minister Senator Datuk Mah Hang Soon told the national Chinese daily that the UPLBM aimed at assessing the Bahasa Melayu standard among the pupils concerned, and not to make it difficult for these young ones.

He said pupils who failed the UPLBM will be referred to foundation class to enable them to master the national language."

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"Foundation class" is equivalent to "remove class".

What is remove class... ask your parents.

(Last time, there were no assessment test...)





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Sos 2: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...r-bm-to/2044239

If not your children become sampah masyarakat, can't even finish basic education, future gone just because you can't understand Malay like the billions of people in this world
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Ada aku kisah? Sudah pergi international school pun.
BM untuk fasih cakap. Tak guna bagus pun. Kerja tak perlu sangat pun
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Still important cuz i need to speak bm to my kakak (indon maid)
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some kakak maid is pinoy,...
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Yes. But Malaysia only one. You live in Switzerland or Malaysia?
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Tak mau jadi juara kampung.
Mau belajar banyak bahasa. Nanti tak dapat kerja jangan iri hati pulak
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QUOTE(gu~wak_zhai @ Mar 1 2022, 10:58 AM)
Malay is easy, the spelling just makes sense, no special grammar/spellings like in English, not different strokes like Chinese. if can't master it then don't talk about other languages.
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You are right that BM is basic language and not hard to learn.
The question is very need put so much effort to learn something with minimum value in future life. Just learn up to normal daily communication enough.

Worse see a lot Malay degrade the language to rempit level while asking other to mengagungkannya. 😅
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Mar 1 2022, 11:04 AM)
Tak mau jadi juara kampung.
Mau belajar banyak bahasa. Nanti tak dapat kerja jangan iri hati pulak
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Tell that to Japanese? China Chinese? Also, nobody stopping you from learning other languages. You need the language to be national language first before you can learn it issit?
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Yes. But Malaysia only one. You live in Switzerland or Malaysia?
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nope,.. malaysia business world still using English,.. in fact,.. all Gov admin, school,.court,.. even parliament use English b4 70's,.. and did not ban English for Gov correspondence,..

India national language also English,.. Singapore national language also malay not English,.. how come so many Singaporean dun use malay and use English ??
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Bm important cuz I need to order mekdi and kepci daily.
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I don't mind if BM is a must pass subject. It's the national language after all. Whether it's useful or not is irrelevant. But there are two main problems with the current implementation.

Students from SK are not subjected to this proficiency test. Why? By excluding them, it makes it discriminatory.

The second issue is we could've curbed this problem earlier on. If we see a child is having problems with BM say in Year 3, we could intervene much earlier and not wait until they graduate from Year 6.


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Tell that to Japanese? China Chinese? Also, nobody stopping you from learning other languages. You need the language to be national language first before you can learn it issit?
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hallo,.. both country also use English ,.. else how to penetrate US and EU market ??,... see Sony,.. see Tencent,.. see Samsung,..
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In order to enter CIS, students need to get above 80% averages marks in UPSR.

They can pass SPM BM easily.
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Normally CIS have own entry test.
But I am sure the entrance mark is not 80% bro. More like ~50%. FY JB
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BM is far more easier to learn than mandarin, so it's not a big issue to me. Somemore it's national language, so just go with it.

Speaking as a chinese father who is struggling to teach his kid mandarin.

My question is, why the double standard that it only applies to vernacular school?
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 11:10 AM)
nope,.. malaysia business world still using English,.. in fact,.. all Gov admin, school,.court,.. even parliament use English b4 70's,.. and did not ban English for Gov correspondence,..

India national language also English,.. Singapore national language also malay not English,.. how come so many Singaporean dun use malay and use English ??
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Ok then Japanese national language is nihongo, China national language is Mandarin. So shouldn't they speak English instead of their national language? Why English must be national language of a country where the population not a native speaker of that language?

If you want to argue based on time, then before British came to Semenanjung, people there use English issit?

Geez, some people here macam those who don't want to learn English because it's bahasa orang kafir.

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 11:14 AM)
hallo,.. both country also use English ,.. else how to penetrate US and EU market ??,...  see Sony,.. see Tencent,.. see Samsung,..
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Their national language is English? They stick to their non-English languages. Why Malaysia cannot?
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 11:14 AM)
hallo,.. both country also use English ,.. else how to penetrate US and EU market ??,...  see Sony,.. see Tencent,.. see Samsung,..
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But they also fluent in their own language……(again I'm surprised I say this as a Non lol)
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oii bodo, thats normal la. before this got peralihan also
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QUOTE(gheyfriend @ Mar 1 2022, 09:29 AM)
study only la...gv so much excuse for wat..cry here n there..it;s not about comparing sjck or srk..it;s bout individual itself, after all cainis kan selfish, tink bout ourself first then only compare..BM only u scare for fux meh..like never handle pressure b4..last time oso same ma go peralihan..
tell ur children, work hard so u can survive elsewhere, now days parents gettin more strawberry, dah kita memang menumpang, don komplen...
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skewed mindset. It is citizenship, not menumpang u joker.
There is no problem with intention of peralihan which objective is to help student to transit better to secondary. The problem is effectiveness of its intervention

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but but but last time during my primary and secondary plenty of oren fail bm leh..how?
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i remember if upsr fail bm ; need to have extra year before enter form 1 right? that 1 call what ah? peralihan?
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Problem with this ruling now is there is no more UPSR which standard and same across all SRK/SRJK, but the grading is based on the exam from the individual school itself.

So if some school got easy questions then is it fair to other school students?
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Sos: https://waupost.com/primary-6-students-in-c...o-enter-form-1/

Sos 2: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...r-bm-to/2044239

If not your children become sampah masyarakat, can't even finish basic education, future gone just because you can't understand Malay like the billions of people in this world
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do u understand BM as bahasa kebangsaan and lingua franca?
How to unite, if even lingua franca is bad, which allow for communication betwwen different race
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I don't mind if BM is a must pass subject. It's the national language after all. Whether it's useful or not is irrelevant. But there are two main problems with the current implementation.

Students from SK are not subjected to this proficiency test. Why? By excluding them, it makes it discriminatory.

The second issue is we could've curbed this problem earlier on. If we see a child is having problems with BM say in Year 3, we could intervene much earlier and not wait until they graduate from Year 6.
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See my earlier post #128.

The announcement was that an assessment test is going to be implemented...

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When there are elections, beware of half info threads...


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QUOTE(jibpek @ Mar 1 2022, 09:03 AM)
So SK can fail BM is it?
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QUOTE(jibpek @ Mar 1 2022, 09:03 AM)
So SK can fail BM is it?
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It's not SK or SJK actually, it's race.

During my time, for UPSR in SJK if you're a non malay and couldn't get a C in BM, you'll go for remove class. If you're malay and in SJK, you can go form 1 even if you can't get a C in BM laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Mar 1 2022, 11:20 AM)
i remember if upsr fail bm ; need to have extra year before enter form 1 right? that 1 call what ah? peralihan?
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Remove class.

See my earlier post, #128.
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Ok then Japanese national language is nihongo, China national language is Mandarin. So shouldn't they speak English instead of their national language? Why English must be national language of a country where the population not a native speaker of that language?

If you want to argue based on time, then before British came to Semenanjung, people there use English issit?

Geez, some people here macam those who don't want to learn English because it's bahasa orang kafir.
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nope,.. u been twisting the subject,.. our conversation is derived from whether migrant is determine by language,.. thats why all those national language vs useable language argument,..
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Ok then Japanese national language is nihongo, China national language is Mandarin. So shouldn't they speak English instead of their national language? Why English must be national language of a country where the population not a native speaker of that language?

If you want to argue based on time, then before British came to Semenanjung, people there use English issit?

Geez, some people here macam those who don't want to learn English because it's bahasa orang kafir.
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Takkanlah negara kecil macam Malaysia pun ingat ada orang mau datang belajar BM.

SG is a classic success example of emphasising on right language
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You are right that BM is basic language and not hard to learn.
The question is very need put so much effort to learn something with minimum value in future life. Just learn up to normal daily communication enough.

Worse see a lot Malay degrade the language to rempit level while asking other to mengagungkannya. 😅
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Because this is Malaysia? Language is an identity to all Malaysians, doesn't matter what race you are, so I don't think it is too much to master our national language, I've seen too many Chinese from SJK who couldn't speak proper Malay, which is sad la. I'm from SJK btw.
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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Mar 1 2022, 11:21 AM)
do u understand BM as bahasa kebangsaan and lingua franca?
How to unite, if even lingua franca is bad, which allow for communication betwwen different race
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Oredi unite wut? Which chinis kenot speak malay? At least at everyday conversational level.

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60-100?
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QUOTE(gu~wak_zhai @ Mar 1 2022, 11:27 AM)
Because this is Malaysia? Language is an identity to all Malaysians, doesn't matter what race you are, so I don't think it is too much to master our national language, I've seen too many Chinese from SJK who couldn't speak proper Malay, which is sad la. I'm from SJK btw.
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Seen too much nonsense. Peralihan is not effective.
I sending my kids to SJK followed by international school.
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QUOTE(CoolStoryWriter @ Mar 1 2022, 08:59 AM)
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Sos: https://waupost.com/primary-6-students-in-c...o-enter-form-1/

Sos 2: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...r-bm-to/2044239

If not your children become sampah masyarakat, can't even finish basic education, future gone just because you can't understand Malay like the billions of people in this world
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SRK result below that can masuk form 1?
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First day ya. Mmg fail BM kena study remove la.
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QUOTE(gu~wak_zhai @ Mar 1 2022, 11:27 AM)
Because this is Malaysia? Language is an identity to all Malaysians, doesn't matter what race you are, so I don't think it is too much to master our national language, I've seen too many Chinese from SJK who couldn't speak proper Malay, which is sad la. I'm from SJK btw.
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But nobody is asking everyone to MASTER malay language... just a certain level determine by a new assessment test to enter form one or "foundation class".

See my earlier post, #128.
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QUOTE(JasonTheGreat @ Mar 1 2022, 11:33 AM)
SRK result below that can masuk form 1?
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See my earlier post #128...

Kena masuk "foundation class" first.


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both of us know the real reason they keep doing it to please some ppl.. tell ur kid study hard and settle elsewhere when they can manage it,,unless u wana be a entrepreneur focusing on bumi ppl. life is not fair

it is not about effetiveness, it is about making someone to be a master on top of a master


QUOTE(abelyap @ Mar 1 2022, 11:20 AM)
skewed mindset. It is citizenship, not menumpang u joker.
There is no problem with intention of peralihan which objective is to help student to transit better to secondary. The problem is effectiveness of its intervention
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QUOTE(gu~wak_zhai @ Mar 1 2022, 11:27 AM)
Because this is Malaysia? Language is an identity to all Malaysians, doesn't matter what race you are, so I don't think it is too much to master our national language, I've seen too many Chinese from SJK who couldn't speak proper Malay, which is sad la. I'm from SJK btw.
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cibai,.. lanciao,.. porak,.. songlap,.. is what language ???

i seen many Malay dunno English,... u no sad ??

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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Mar 1 2022, 11:21 AM)
do u understand BM as bahasa kebangsaan and lingua franca?
How to unite, if even lingua franca is bad, which allow for communication betwwen different race
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russia ukraine not the same people n same lingua franca

why now war...?
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move your ass elsewhere then
this country doesn't owe you shit ts
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Johor going to have state election, that's why many misleading half baked threads... yeah, Malaysia is bad, indirectly the govmen is bad.


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move your ass elsewhere then
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this country no tax non malay izit ???.. mana tax payer rights,..???
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this wan i though all the while is like that even UPSR era still same
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Like all rempit fail bm and where are they ?

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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Mar 1 2022, 11:39 AM)
russia ukraine not the same people n same lingua franca

why now war...?
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Better use Arab as example brows.gif
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Better use Arab as example  brows.gif
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u right

but now hot topic is russia ukraine

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So many excuses lol
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Biasanya, yang kurang pandai je banyak alasan ni. Yang pandai2 semua redah je sebab senang. Bukan susah pon belajar BM ni.
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Biasanya, yang kurang pandai je banyak alasan ni. Yang pandai2 semua redah je sebab senang. Bukan susah pon belajar BM ni.
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belajar BM tapi English level "plotek plotek" itu pandai ???.... no wonder tak maju,..
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Malay is not that hard compared to other language.

If malay also cant score memang failure lah. Sampah level IQ.

Bangla also can speak Malay after few months learning.
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Kesian tertindas had to learn BM.
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belajar BM tapi English level "plotek plotek" itu pandai ???.... no wonder tak maju,..
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Sama la tu, tak pandai juga. Yang asyik sebut contoh orang tak pandai tu kenapa? doh.gif
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this country no tax non malay izit ???.. mana tax payer rights,..???
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Kena pass BM terus butthurt on taxes. Kesian tertindas.
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Assessment test vs. kasut hitam.


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keep harping on SJK's BM requirement as if they're not already scoring better than their SK counterpart. laugh.gif

meanwhile ownself keep vying off to arabic.

no resource, skills, or will to better Malay's media culture to make our national language competitive.

keep hitting this useless drum. jokers whistling.gif


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QUOTE(tupai @ Mar 1 2022, 12:05 PM)
Kena pass BM terus butthurt on taxes. Kesian tertindas.
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Biasanya, yang tak pandai BM, gaji pon tak sampai taxable income atau tax evaders je laugh.gif

Yang pandai BM (walaupon tak guna) je bayar tax.
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Kena pass BM terus butthurt on taxes. Kesian tertindas.
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read the previous reply,.. English cannot izit ???
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Biasanya, yang tak pandai BM, gaji pon tak sampai taxable income atau tax evaders je laugh.gif

Yang pandai BM (walaupon tak guna) je bayar tax.
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tak tau English ,.. manyak pandai ???... no wonder tak maju,..
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QUOTE(FLYING PANTIES @ Mar 1 2022, 12:02 PM)
Malay is not that hard compared to other language.

If malay also cant score memang failure lah. Sampah level IQ.

Bangla also can speak Malay after few months learning.
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No need to score la... the assessment test is for year 6 kids entering form 1, or whether they need to enter foundation class first.

Can't even speak a word of malay, how to automatically continue studies in SMK.

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xmau biyem, but produk will put biyem + jawi + islamic some more
mau jual kasi laris maaaaa
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tak tau English ,.. manyak pandai ???... no wonder tak maju,..
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Biasanya yang pandai English, pandai BM. Jarang sangat lah jumpa orang pandai English tak pandai BM. Kecuali yang belajar di International School.
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keep harping on SJK's BM requirement as if they're not already scoring better than their SK counterpart. laugh.gif

meanwhile ownself keep vying off to arabic.

no resource, skills, or will to better Malay's media culture to make our national language competitive. 

keep hitting this useless drum. jokers whistling.gif
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Anything wrong with an assessment?

It is much better than kasut hitam.


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Biasanya yang pandai English, pandai BM. Jarang sangat lah jumpa orang pandai English tak pandai BM. Kecuali yang belajar di International School.
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pandai English,.. tapi tak tau baca previous reply,.. tak tau reply content,.. kira manyak pandai ???... no wonder tak maju,..
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read the previous reply,..  English cannot izit ???
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Nasional language is BM. Simple. You don't like you can get out. Hehehehehe. Singkie not that far.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Mar 1 2022, 12:16 PM)
Biasanya yang pandai English, pandai BM. Jarang sangat lah jumpa orang pandai English tak pandai BM. Kecuali yang belajar di International School.
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He cannot. His brain can only fit 1 language, tak cukup RAM. Kesian.

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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Mar 1 2022, 12:19 PM)
Anything wrong with an assessment?

It is much better than kasut hitam.
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nothing's wrong, but this requirement is worthless in terms of expanding BM as a language

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xmau biyem, but produk will put biyem + jawi + islamic some more
mau jual kasi laris maaaaa
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Some people think they can get rich by doing business with their fellow nons je. It's kinda true if they only sell Non halal stuff.

Later some people will say ayam JKOM. Hahahahaha.

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pandai English,.. tapi tak tau baca previous reply,.. tak tau reply content,.. kira manyak pandai ???... no wonder tak maju,..
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Previous reply mana pulak ni?
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Previous reply mana pulak ni?
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He cannot. His brain can only fit 1 language, tak cukup RAM. Kesian.
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Itulah. Biasanya yang struggle nak belajar bahasa ni brain capacity dia limited sikit.
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QUOTE(tupai @ Mar 1 2022, 12:22 PM)
Dia sudah cincai until sewel
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Reply /kopitiam sikit terus sewel,.. no wonder tak maju,..
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QUOTE(tupai @ Mar 1 2022, 12:19 PM)
Nasional language is BM. Simple. You don't like you can get out. Hehehehehe. Singkie not that far.
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read the previous reply,.. it's about the country not owing citizen anything,.. tell them to keluar,.. hence the tax reply,..

ur English okay ??
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Previous reply mana pulak ni?
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no wonder tak maju,.. reply tanpa rujuk context,..
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no wonder tak maju,.. reply tanpa rujuk context,..
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Dah reply ikut context la. Apa susah sangat nak faham ni? doh.gif
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Mar 1 2022, 12:21 PM)
Previous reply mana pulak ni?
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QUOTE(tupai @ Mar 1 2022, 12:22 PM)
Dia sudah cincai until sewel
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QUOTE(iiapaii @ Mar 1 2022, 11:40 AM)
move your ass elsewhere then
this country doesn't owe you shit ts
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Tupai sudah blanket ???
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Tupai sudah blanket ???
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QUOTE(tupai @ Mar 1 2022, 12:19 PM)
Nasional language is BM. Simple. You don't like you can get out. Hehehehehe. Singkie not that far.
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According to the Constitution of Singapore, the national language of Singapore is Malay, which plays a symbolic role, as Malays are constitutionally recognised as the indigenous peoples of Singapore, and it is the government's duty to protect their language and heritage.[a] The constitution also states that the four commonly used languages of Singapore are English, Chinese, Malay and Tamil, with the lingua franca between Singaporeans of different races being English, the de facto main language.


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Apa ko merepek ni? doh.gif
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For info, there're still many smaller towns that have Chinese (and also Tamil) medium schools at the primary level only.

To continue to Chinese medium secondary schools, they need to either go live with relatives in bigger towns where these schools are available, or enter SMK (national secondary school) nearby.

I think it is good to have an assessment test...




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read the previous reply,.. it's about the country not owing citizen anything,.. tell them to keluar,.. hence the tax reply,..

ur English okay ??
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Baru bayar tax 1k per year sudah bising
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Both sides oso sohai.

Those who are anti BM
Hallo, you are Malaysian citizen lah. Wtf is wrong in studying the national language? If you dun want to learn BM or too stupid to learn then just stfu n be quiet about it lah. No need to insult the national language or give excuses. Did the pinoys or the thais or the vietnamese indonesians etc said their lamguage useless only can use locally?

To those pro BM
Ppl wanna learn or dun wanna learn BM what has that got to do with you? Will you get rich and life automatically becomes rainbows and sunshine if ah chong in kuala pilah knows BM? And will you get poor and starve if muthu in seremban dunno BM? Since when did tak tahu bahasa = pendatang tak layak jadi warganegara Malaysia? Living in a multiracial multicultural nation have you learned other languages aside from your mothertongue to communicate with others? Or just hide behind the "kebangsaan/national/official language" label, so convenient no need to learn? Multiracial multicultural konon puikkk...

Back in those days 50's - 70's plenty of nons (and also malays each with their own dialects) dunno bahasa but none of them said BM is useless. And it was never a fukken issue, ada bahasa cina dan bahasa tamil on the forms or use sign language, whatever. How the fark did lanaguage proficiency oso become a tool to instigate r&r??? doh.gif
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REPORT 9 TS CREATE FAKE NEWS.
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Mar 1 2022, 12:35 PM)
Both sides oso sohai.

Those who are anti BM
Hallo, you are Malaysian citizen lah. Wtf is wrong in studying the national language? If you dun want to learn BM or too stupid to learn then just stfu n be quiet about it lah. No need to insult the national language or give excuses. Did the pinoys or the thais or the vietnamese indonesians etc said their lamguage useless only can use locally?

To those pro BM
Ppl wanna learn or dun wanna learn BM what has that got to do with you? Will you get rich and life automatically becomes rainbows and sunshine if ah chong in kuala pilah knows BM? And will you get poor and starve if muthu in seremban dunno BM? Since when did tak tahu bahasa = pendatang tak layak jadi warganegara Malaysia? Living in a multiracial multicultural nation have you learned other languages aside from your mothertongue to communicate with others? Or just hide behind the "kebangsaan/national/official language" label, so convenient no need to learn? Multiracial multicultural konon puikkk...

Back in those days 50's - 70's plenty of nons (and also malays each with their own dialects) dunno bahasa but none of them said BM is useless. And it was never a fukken issue, ada bahasa cina dan bahasa tamil on the forms or use sign language, whatever. How the fark did lanaguage proficiency oso become a tool to instigate r&r??? doh.gif
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QUOTE(tupai @ Mar 1 2022, 12:34 PM)
Baru bayar tax 1k per year sudah bising
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u know how much i pay tax ???.. super tupai ???

so your English bad izit ??....cannot understand a conversation sequence ??
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Mar 1 2022, 12:35 PM)
Both sides oso sohai.

Those who are anti BM
Hallo, you are Malaysian citizen lah. Wtf is wrong in studying the national language? If you dun want to learn BM or too stupid to learn then just stfu n be quiet about it lah. No need to insult the national language or give excuses. Did the pinoys or the thais or the vietnamese indonesians etc said their lamguage useless only can use locally?

To those pro BM
Ppl wanna learn or dun wanna learn BM what has that got to do with you? Will you get rich and life automatically becomes rainbows and sunshine if ah chong in kuala pilah knows BM? And will you get poor and starve if muthu in seremban dunno BM? Since when did tak tahu bahasa = pendatang tak layak jadi warganegara Malaysia? Living in a multiracial multicultural nation have you learned other languages aside from your mothertongue to communicate with others? Or just hide behind the "kebangsaan/national/official language" label, so convenient no need to learn? Multiracial multicultural konon puikkk...

Back in those days 50's - 70's plenty of nons (and also malays each with their own dialects) dunno bahasa but none of them said BM is useless. And it was never a fukken issue, ada bahasa cina dan bahasa tamil on the forms or use sign language, whatever. How the fark did lanaguage proficiency oso become a tool to instigate r&r??? doh.gif
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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ Mar 1 2022, 11:34 AM)
In other news , UPSR dan PT3 dimansuhkan
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“If a pupil does not pass either writing or comprehension test, the pupil will be referred to foundation class. Now that UPSR is scrapped, the ministry has decided that Primary Six pupils will be assessed based on their Bahasa Melayu subject results at the school.”

Mah added that the ministry had come up with UPLBM to give a second chance to pupils who attained TP1 to TP3 for the national language subject to proceed to Form 1 studies. — Borneo Post


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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Mar 1 2022, 12:15 PM)
No need to score la... the assessment test is for year 6 kids entering form 1, or whether they need to enter foundation class first.

Can't even speak a word of malay, how to automatically continue studies in SMK.
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Unless retarded anyone can learn such simple language lol

I have seen bangla in construction learn malay within 3 months.

bm and english easier compared to mandarin, arabic or urdu.
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QUOTE(FLYING PANTIES @ Mar 1 2022, 12:46 PM)
Unless retarded anyone can learn such simple language lol

I have seen bangla in construction learn malay within 3 months.

bm and english easier compared to mandarin, arabic or urdu.
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always said bangla learn fluent BM by few months,.. last week go pump petrol,.. the bangla don't even know what tandas mean,.. ask for toilet only point me to the direction,..
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Mar 1 2022, 09:07 AM)
but but but last time during my primary and secondary plenty of oren fail bm leh..how?
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are you sure? during my time, my oren kita friends who merely got even C for BM need to retake his BM SPM paper... if not, no IPTA will take him in
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QUOTE(FLYING PANTIES @ Mar 1 2022, 12:46 PM)
Unless retarded anyone can learn such simple language lol

I have seen bangla in construction learn malay within 3 months.

bm and english easier compared to mandarin, arabic or urdu.
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“If a pupil does not pass either writing or comprehension test, the pupil will be referred to foundation class. Now that UPSR is scrapped, the ministry has decided that Primary Six pupils will be assessed based on their Bahasa Melayu subject results at the school.

Mah added that the ministry had come up with UPLBM to give a second chance to pupils who attained TP1 to TP3 for the national language subject to proceed to Form 1 studies. — Borneo Post
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 12:51 PM)
always said bangla learn fluent BM by few months,.. last week go pump petrol,.. the bangla don't even know what tandas mean,.. ask for toilet only point me to the direction,..
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No need to say bangla, I been to secluded places... order barley ice at a kopitiam, the local Chinese woman can't speak malay, no english oso, so i repeat in my half half passable mandarin, she also no understand until next table helped to say 'yi mei' properly.

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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Mar 1 2022, 01:09 PM)
No need to say bangla, I been to secluded places... order barley ice at a kopitiam, the local Chinese woman can't speak malay, no english oso, so i repeat in my half half passable mandarin, she also no understand until next table helped to say 'yi mei' properly.

smile.gif
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u see one bangla speak good malay,.. assume all bangla learn fast,.. u see one chinese can't speak malay,.. assume all chinese can't speak malay,...

so i see one japanese speak good mandarin,.. then i can assume all japanese can speak good mandarin ??...
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Mar 1 2022, 01:09 PM)
No need to say bangla, I been to secluded places... order barley ice at a kopitiam, the local Chinese woman can't speak malay, no english oso, so i repeat in my half half passable mandarin, she also no understand until next table helped to say 'yi mei' properly.
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secluded places then ask SJK to raise requirement laugh.gif

your solution not tally with the problem bro
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 01:14 PM)
u see one bangla speak good malay,.. assume all bangla learn fast,.. u see one chinese can't speak malay,.. assume all chinese can't speak malay,...

so i see one japanese speak good mandarin,.. then i can assume all japanese  can speak good mandarin ??...
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Me not assuming anything la... just telling a personal experience to support why assessment is good, cannot la every pupil cincai enter form 1.


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QUOTE(phantomash @ Mar 1 2022, 01:21 PM)
secluded places then ask SJK to raise requirement  laugh.gif

your solution not tally with the problem bro
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Where got raised requirement? Read again the copied sentences... in my reply to you.

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this thread ayam makan popcorn je. malas nak participate.
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should extend to srk also la.
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 12:42 PM)
u know how much i pay tax ???.. super tupai ???

so your English bad izit ??....cannot understand a conversation sequence ??
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yup my english so bad i only understand some people so cincai get butthurt over the requirement to pass BM in order to proceed with their education. I also understand some people think they paid so much taxes until no need to follow whatever requirements gomen put for school kids.

btw, i dont care how much you pay taxes. for all i know you could have been a tax dodgers who claimed to have low income yet when bijan gave br1m you come to collect while driving mercedes.
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malaysian dont know BM, very hard to explain to other country
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Mar 1 2022, 01:27 PM)
should extend to srk also la.
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No need la... those cannot communicate in passable malay in malay medium primary schools usually drop out and not finish primary school.

Unless mandatory education is extended to age 15 or later and includes secondary education...


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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Mar 1 2022, 01:21 PM)
Me not assuming anything la... just telling a personal experience to support why assessment is good, cannot la every pupil cincai enter form 1.
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i'm bored with all the comment of bangla learning fast malay,.. which is not true,.. majority bangla still bad in malay,..

then SK pupil can cincai enter enter form 1 ??
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study one more year can enjoy student life. why want grad so fast? brows.gif
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QUOTE(tupai @ Mar 1 2022, 01:30 PM)
yup my english so bad i only understand some people so cincai get butthurt over the requirement to pass BM in order to proceed with their education. I also understand some people think they paid so much taxes until no need to follow whatever requirements gomen put for school kids.

btw, i dont care how much you pay taxes. for all i know you could have been a tax dodgers who claimed to have low income yet when bijan gave br1m you come to collect while driving mercedes.
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how do u derived that from tax comment of mine,.. ???.. taxpayer cannot voice out unfairness of double standard ???.. taxpayer don't have rights,.. just pay up and shut up ??... else keluar ,.. even u already pay the country for years,..
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My opinion is that, we are living in Malaysia. We should pass the BM exam and should be able to communicate in BM(not asking for perfect). It's our national language after all. However, this rule should not apply to SRJK only, it should applies to SRK as well.
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most probably easy to achieve such greds

student : " saya suda makan itu buah apple punya. "
teacher : ok pass lo
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 01:35 PM)
i'm bored with all the comment of bangla learning fast malay,.. which is not true,.. majority bangla still bad in malay,..

then SK pupil can cincai enter enter form 1 ??
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See my reply... #228.

Ya loh, the news actually got twisted in post #1... nothing to do with whether malay is easy to learn or not.

Don't have to talk like year 6 kid must master secondary school level in malay language to enter secondary school.

We enter secondary education to learn secondary level stuff mah. smile.gif




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QUOTE(wagie @ Mar 1 2022, 01:42 PM)
study one more year can enjoy student life. why want grad so fast? brows.gif
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reading all twelve pages of stupid comments only to find this gold reply.
Terima kasih kerana masih guna otak.
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My opinion is that, we are living in Malaysia. We should pass the BM exam and should be able to communicate in BM(not asking for perfect). It's our national language after all. However, this rule should not apply to SRJK only, it should applies to SRK as well.
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Extend mandatory education from age 12 to age 15 or 18 first la.

Then only talk of passing exams.


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I don't care what shit TP grade nowadays, but come on lah, such easy language also cannot handle is it? If really tak sukak then just do the bare minimum to pass for higher education, then plan your way to keluar. No need to get so worked up in this sohai race bait thread.

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 01:14 PM)
u see one bangla speak good malay,.. assume all bangla learn fast,.. u see one chinese can't speak malay,.. assume all chinese can't speak malay,...

so i see one japanese speak good mandarin,.. then i can assume all japanese  can speak good mandarin ??...
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U see one oren rasuah assume all oren rasuah

Kena batang hidung sendiri tahu sakit
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Mar 1 2022, 01:43 PM)
My opinion is that, we are living in Malaysia. We should pass the BM exam and should be able to communicate in BM(not asking for perfect). It's our national language after all. However, this rule should not apply to SRJK only, it should applies to SRK as well.
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LTK tinggal di Germany lebih 20 tahun pon cakap BM macam orang tinggal di Malaysia, kita yang memang tak pernah keluar Malaysia nak merungut susah belajar BM doh.gif

And I agree on your second point, should apply to all school, not just SRJK. I hate when I conducted meeting BM only to be replied with rempit BM by native speaker. I don’t mind some “ke” “je” “lah”, but not full fledge rempit BM.
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susah sangat meh malay?
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Haiya, ini pun susah ka, baca lah komik bahasa, 1 hari 1 chapter , guarantee fasih
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QUOTE(Chanwsan @ Mar 1 2022, 02:01 PM)
I don't care what shit TP grade nowadays, but come on lah, such easy language also cannot handle is it? If really tak sukak then just do the bare minimum to pass for higher education, then plan your way to keluar. No need to get so worked up in this sohai race bait thread.

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The issue here is not about sjkc fail cannot masuk secondary school .... but rather the unequal treatment that if sk fail still can masuk secondary school.
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So bring back kelas peralihan?
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U see one oren rasuah assume all oren rasuah

Kena batang hidung sendiri tahu sakit
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nope,.. i not only see one oren rasuah,.. i see many many oren rasuah,.... heck i even see holy suci murni claim rasuah for bangsa dan agama,..


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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ Mar 1 2022, 02:07 PM)
Haiya, ini pun susah ka, baca lah komik bahasa, 1 hari 1 chapter , guarantee fasih
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lulz,.. the truth is ,.. i'm from SK,.. i learned my chinese reading comic,... pandai baca,.. tak pandai tulis,..
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the higher the education, the less important BM for real world usage, basic oral BM is enough
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nope,.. i not only see one oren rasuah,.. i see many many oren rasuah,.... heck i even see holy suci murni claim rasuah for bangsa dan agama,..
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there you go randy


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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Mar 1 2022, 11:21 AM)
See my earlier post #128.

The announcement was that an assessment test is going to be implemented...

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When there are elections, beware of half info threads...
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That does not invalidate what I said though? What I said still applies. Proficiency test should be applied to all students, not just SRJK students.
Does being in SK automatically makes ALL students meet the minimum requirements in BM proficiency?

Also early intervention would help weak students.


What I am trying to point out is the weakness and the false assumptions in the current implementation.
And chill. Not everyone that is critical to the current implementation is doing that because of the elections/didn't read the article.

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there you go randy
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u keeping flying panties,.. kena rasuah or not ??
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proficient in BM =/= automatically not sampah masyarakat

those sampah mat rempit mostly fluent in B-

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Mar 1 2022, 01:43 PM)
My opinion is that, we are living in Malaysia. We should pass the BM exam and should be able to communicate in BM(not asking for perfect). It's our national language after all. However, this rule should not apply to SRJK only, it should applies to SRK as well.
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Yup agreed.

But do you know that Malays in SRJK who failed their BM, do not need to go to Peralihan too? laugh.gif

It's a super weird system that has no consistency at all.
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so, amacam? sudah pandai cakap BM ke belum?
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Mar 1 2022, 01:34 PM)
No need la... those cannot communicate in passable malay in malay medium primary schools usually drop out and not finish primary school.

Unless mandatory education is extended to age 15 or later and includes secondary education...
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QUOTE(godhpf @ Mar 1 2022, 02:24 PM)
That does not invalidate what I said though? What I said still applies. Proficiency test should be applied to all students, not just SRJK students.
Does being in SK automatically makes ALL students meet the minimum requirements in BM proficiency?

Also early intervention would help weak students.
What I am trying to point out is the weakness and the false assumptions in the current implementation.
And chill. Not everyone that is critical to the current implementation is doing that because of the elections/didn't read the article.
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See also another reply in post #228, as quoted above.

Earlier self assessments at year 1-5... would automatically be there if teachers and schools now know that pupils can't automatically proceed to form 1.



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QUOTE(khelben @ Mar 1 2022, 02:43 PM)
Yup agreed.

But do you know that Malays in SRJK who failed their BM, do not need to go to Peralihan too? laugh.gif

It's a super weird system that has no consistency at all.
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The wierd system is designed to tindas nons. I am not kidding. I do actually agree with the /k narrative that gomen tindas nons. I notice the unfairness of it
but I also like to make fun of those who became sewel after all the penindasan.

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QUOTE(khelben @ Mar 1 2022, 02:43 PM)
Yup agreed.

But do you know that Malays in SRJK who failed their BM, do not need to go to Peralihan too? laugh.gif

It's a super weird system that has no consistency at all.
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Wow seriously? I do not know that
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Mar 1 2022, 02:51 PM)
See also another reply in post #228, as quoted above.

Earlier self assessments at year 1-5... would automatically be there if teachers and schools now know that pupils can't automatically proceed to form 1.
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I think it should be extended to SRK to not be discriminatory and to help weak students from SRK. If you do not agree then yeah let's agree to disagree.

Maybe I missed it but I don't see where in the article where it says there will be earlier assessments at year 1 to 5.
Are you assuming it will be there because of the policy changes?

If such intervention is not funded, it will not be there. Teachers are already overloaded in SRJK.
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i blame the SJK school for bad BM teaching method... they told me teachers speaks and teach BM in chinese language. I mean to learn BM is not difficult... all you need is speaking throughout the class.

as a result, my niece form 2 but still super teruk at BM... sometimes i speak with very simple phrase also she cannot understand.
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Mar 1 2022, 03:01 PM)
Wow seriously? I do not know that
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Remove class is a transition year for pupils from chinese (and tamil) medium primary school to malay (and english) medium secondary school, before form 1.

Why should a malay medium primary school pupil enter remove class before he can proceed to malay medium secondary school?

Also, students coming from malay medium primary school doesn't automatically will pass bm at form 3 or form 5. What's so surprising? Students failed in other subjects too.




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meanwhile in Indonesia, tionghua all change name to indons #nextlevel
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The wierd system is designed to tindas nons. I am not kidding. I do actually agree with the /k narrative that gomen tindas nons. I notice the unfairness of it
but  I also like to make fun of those who became sewel after all the penindasan.
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so people mention tax payer got rights ,.. is sewel ??

people who said the country don't owe citizen anything,.. just shut up or keluar,... is not sewel ??
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Sampai 14 tered ni naper. Ramai trigger ker? I thought all of u SK budak one?
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QUOTE(godhpf @ Mar 1 2022, 03:07 PM)
I think it should be extended to SRK to not be discriminatory and to help weak students from SRK. If you do not agree then yeah let's agree to disagree.

Maybe I missed it but I don't see where in the article where it says there will be earlier assessments at year 1 to 5.
Are you assuming it will be there because of the policy changes?

If such intervention is not funded, it will not be there. Teachers are already overloaded in SRJK.
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I wrote 'self assessment' la.


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Complete their Form 1 in Taiwan loh.....then when they become successful, don't claim anything.
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user posted image

Sos: https://waupost.com/primary-6-students-in-c...o-enter-form-1/

Sos 2: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...r-bm-to/2044239

If not your children become sampah masyarakat, can't even finish basic education, future gone just because you can't understand Malay
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I suspect this is a bait for Johor erections. Last-last u-turn say MCA managed to convince the Education Ministry to remove the requirements.
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Provide the source.
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Mar 1 2022, 03:23 PM)
I wrote 'self assessment' la.
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Okay. So you are assuming it will happen.
In reality, it won't happen, at least for a lot of schools. Simple as that.
Only well funded schools would be able to do that.
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Suda lah why racing over bahasa melayu.


Cakaplah bahasa indon. Oh wait it's like bahasa melayu. Plus kan so many melei suka indon songs. Bulan maret already racing, want to race until bulan juni?

Warga /k janganlah bisa berbicara racing. Jadilah pria/cewek yang baik. Dalam arti kata lain, kalian yang berbeda etnis membutuhkan semangat persatuan agar berbicara tanpa kesenjangan.
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They gonna reinstate remove class back?

Wasted my 1 year in remove class. Did get A in BM though.
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QUOTE(turbokidd @ Mar 1 2022, 03:20 PM)
meanwhile in Indonesia, tionghua all change name to indons #nextlevel
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Mar 1 2022, 11:27 AM)
Negara besar daya saing kuat dan inovasi. GDP 2nd and 3rd in world. Orang lain akan ikut dan pergi belajar bahasa mereka
Takkanlah negara kecil macam Malaysia pun ingat ada orang mau datang belajar BM.

SG is a classic success example of emphasising on right language
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Hahaha here's the usual reason given by those who don't want to learn BM despite born and raise in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Mar 1 2022, 12:46 PM)
“If a pupil does not pass either writing or comprehension test, the pupil will be referred to foundation class. Now that UPSR is scrapped, the ministry has decided that Primary Six pupils will be assessed based on their Bahasa Melayu subject results at the school.”

Mah added that the ministry had come up with UPLBM to give a second chance to pupils who attained TP1 to TP3 for the national language subject to proceed to Form 1 studies. — Borneo Post
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QUOTE(godhpf @ Mar 1 2022, 03:26 PM)
Okay. So you are assuming it will happen.
In reality, it won't happen, at least for a lot of schools. Simple as that.
Only well funded schools would be able to do that.
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I not quite following all the changes in the education system since leaving school decades ago.

From what I read since then (and also above report ), it seems that we're doing away with tests... and the education level was deteriorating since passing tests not the main criteria to gauge teachers and principals?

Well, the assessment test is then good to have, and a 'second chance' to assess the pupil comprehension of bm before he goes to a malay medium school.

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Edit: sorry, I thought remove class was removed years ago, so there's a bit of confusion on my part when reading all the above posts.

• Remove Class
Remove Class is a transition year for students from the Chinese and Tamil medium schools to acquire sufficient proficiency in Bahasa Melayu which is the medium of instruction in secondary school (Form 1 to Form 5). However, students who perform well in Ujian Penilaian Sekolah Rendah, UPSR (Primary School Achievement Test) are allowed to proceed to Form 1.

UPSR going to be scrapped... that's why a new assessment test is needed for those wanting to skip remove class.




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so people mention tax payer got rights ,.. is sewel ??

people who said the country don't owe citizen anything,.. just shut up or keluar,...  is not sewel ??
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How is it by paying taxes you become immune to rules and regulations?

If you think your tax money doesn't give enough return then by all mean find another place where you can get more return out of your tax payment.
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Whatever criterias that smokescreen their weakness. That is education to some.

Cannot compete excellencies, mill out all gradutes, but substandard backfire

Now, blockchain, limit the mainstream secondary intake.

Kesian

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QUOTE(tupai @ Mar 1 2022, 03:59 PM)
How is it by paying taxes you become immune to rules and regulations?

If you think your tax money doesn't give enough return then by all mean find another place where you can get more return out of your tax payment.
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paying tax cannot voice out unfairness of rules and regulation ???...

so the guy who tell people get off the country,.. the country don't owe the citizen anything,.. is not sewel ??
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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Mar 1 2022, 03:24 PM)
I suspect this is a bait for Johor erections. Last-last u-turn say MCA managed to convince the Education Ministry to remove the requirements.
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With penyu, he just making thing worsts to the next level ..... our education everyday getting bent over and getting screw from the back....nothing new here
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QUOTE(yugimudo @ Mar 1 2022, 03:22 PM)
Sampai 14 tered ni naper. Ramai trigger ker? I thought all of u SK budak one?
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But the one triggered the most is from SK lol
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QUOTE(jmtstan @ Mar 1 2022, 03:15 PM)
i blame the SJK school for bad BM teaching method... they told me teachers speaks and teach BM in chinese language. I mean to learn BM is not difficult... all you need is speaking throughout the class.

as a result, my niece form 2 but still super teruk at BM... sometimes i speak with very simple phrase also she cannot understand.
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i noticed many of them dont know how to differentiate the use of kami and kita. they easily confused with these 2 terms.
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QUOTE(Exiled_Gundam @ Mar 1 2022, 03:54 PM)
Hahaha here's the usual reason given by those who don't want to learn BM despite born and raise in Malaysia.
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Like i say i from SK all the way until public U.
It is disaster on emphasising a language that hv limited potential. the stubborn attitude is dragging down MY development.

Imagine university thesis pun BM. Ada idea bernas pun susah dikembangkan.
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Sjk kid kan ke all smart student?

tak kan can fail kot.
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QUOTE(turbokidd @ Mar 1 2022, 03:20 PM)
meanwhile in Indonesia, tionghua all change name to indons #nextlevel
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Outdated news for decades.
Any that why Indon is worse than MY then
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QUOTE(Efalex @ Mar 1 2022, 03:24 PM)
Complete their Form 1 in Taiwan loh.....then when they become successful, don't claim anything.
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I thought such system was in place long time ago? Back in my days you couldn't proceed to secondary if you fail BM too, so this is just increasing the threshold?

Anyway, I think more emphasis is needed on spoken BM than written BM. Many nons can score A+ for BM but when it comes to speaking they stammer or forget the words. Being able to write proper BM isn't of much importance when you work in the private sector, and when you actually need to write you can easily google.
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QUOTE(superbike @ Mar 1 2022, 04:58 PM)
i noticed many of them dont know how to differentiate the use of kami and kita. they easily confused with these 2 terms.
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Curious. If a non speaks good bahasa will malays give equal respects? 🤔
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Curious. If a non speaks good bahasa will malays give equal respects? 🤔
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itu lu tanya itu melayu politician punya olang liao lorr sebab meleka olang bikin ini rnr politik mia liao lor. con9lan7firm liao lorr.
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Pasal bm pun kecoh. Keluar orang kampung sempit pemikiran semua. Dah nama bahasa rasmi, belajar je lah. Bukan dia suruh target dapat a pun.
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itu lu tanya itu melayu politician punya olang liao lorr sebab meleka olang bikin ini rnr politik mia liao lor. con9lan7firm liao lorr.
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What a joke..
SK student who fail 3M with barely pass UPSR result still can go SMK.
double standard.
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itu lu tanya itu melayu politician punya olang liao lorr sebab meleka olang bikin ini rnr politik mia liao lor. con9lan7firm liao lorr.
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Ni bahasa rempit subcategory /k
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QUOTE(turbokidd @ Mar 1 2022, 03:20 PM)
meanwhile in Indonesia, tionghua all change name to indons #nextlevel
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i tot indon oredi open.
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Make if across all primary schools la

Kinda embarrassing if any Malaysia kid can fail Standard 6 BM...
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what is TP4/6 equivalent of ABCD?

i used to get B in BM for UPSR but A for all other subjects. Ended up in Peralihan because headmaster says A is needed to enter Tingkatan 1.
Yes, ayam cina.

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QUOTE(ericangtzeann @ Mar 1 2022, 07:52 PM)
Curious. If a non speaks good bahasa will malays give equal respects? 🤔
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Definitely. Even more so if the said non can speak the dialect as well. Those who are able to do so and do interact regularly with the Malays should be able to notice this.

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 04:14 PM)
paying tax cannot voice out unfairness of rules and regulation ???...

so the guy who tell people get off the country,.. the country don't owe the citizen anything,.. is not sewel ??
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yup, you're right. the country don't owe the citizen anything, its the citizens that owe the country taxes.
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QUOTE(tupai @ Mar 1 2022, 11:38 PM)
yup, you're right.  the country don't owe the citizen anything, its the citizens that owe the country taxes.
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they take our tax,.. they owe us the service,.. Civil Servant is to serve the citizen,.. not discriminate certain group,..
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 11:42 PM)
they take our tax,.. they owe us the service,.. Civil Servant is to serve the citizen,.. not discriminate certain group,..
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what was the discrimination again? a test to ensure school kid from a different language stream to enter another language stream?

i guess those angmo countries discriminate people when they require english proficiency test before admission. funny the rule was a bit relaxed if the mother tongue is english.
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QUOTE(tupai @ Mar 1 2022, 11:51 PM)
what was the discrimination again? a test to ensure school kid from a different language stream to enter another language stream?

i guess those angmo countries discriminate people when they require english proficiency test before admission. funny the rule was a bit relaxed if the mother tongue is english.
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SRJK need test,.. SK no need,.. not discrimination ??

ang moh sendiri no need test ??... only non ang moh need test ??

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 11:55 PM)
SRJK need test,.. SK no need,.. not discrimination ??

ang moh sendiri no need test ??... only non ang moh need test ??
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SK to SMK same medium of instruction. so by logic of current and past gomen, no need test as they assume SK students had been learning stuff in BM for 6 years wont have problem to learn in the same language for another 5. sure some SMK students did fail later on but so far they dont care.

as for angmoh most english speaking countries except for canada doesnt require english proficiency test for students from other english speaking countries. for their own citizens also no need.


sos.

yes, the link i gave is for uni, not for schools but it kinda logical for a person from another language stream to be tested for language proficiency if they want to study in a different language stream.

you tak suka then you know what to do.

nope, voting DAP wont get what you want coz of... democracy. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(tupai @ Mar 2 2022, 12:22 AM)
SK to SMK same medium of instruction. so by logic of current and past gomen, no need test as they assume SK students had been learning stuff in BM for 6 years wont have problem to learn in the same language for another 5. sure some SMK students did fail later on but so far they dont care.

as for angmoh most english speaking countries except for canada doesnt require english proficiency test for students from other english speaking countries. for their own citizens also no need.
sos.

yes, the link i gave is for uni, not for schools but it kinda logical for a person from another language stream to be tested for language proficiency if they want to study in a different language stream.

you tak suka then you know what to do.

nope, voting DAP wont get what you want coz of... democracy. laugh.gif
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i tak suka,.. i cannot become candidate for Gov ??.. must keluar ???

many people also tak suka their country Gov policy,.. they keluar ???... unless u live in dictactory country,.. u tak suka u go re-education camp,..
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You go to some other other countries, same also.. nothing new..
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 2 2022, 12:27 AM)
i tak suka,.. i cannot become candidate for Gov ??.. must keluar ???

many people also tak suka their country Gov policy,.. they keluar ???... unless u live in dictactory country,.. u tak suka u go re-education camp,..
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i said you know what to do. you're the one who said keluar now. whistling.gif
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i said you know what to do. you're the one who said keluar now.  whistling.gif
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u really got reading problem,..
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Mar 1 2022, 11:42 PM)
they take our tax,.. they owe us the service,.. Civil Servant is to serve the citizen,.. not discriminate certain group,..
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As if certain race only pay tax. This word so famous among certain race if they argue with gov servant. U know ha, we pay for your salary. Kek logic.
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Respect is earned and not forced down through the throat.

How do you expect others to respect your mother language when ownself goes and mix/rap/screw into rempit language. I'm think even Indo still talk better words without so many rojak unlike those evening drama in TV3.

Foreign workers learned faster because the environment force them to. Here how do you expect Nons to mingle when your top G blasting all those racist / bias statement and break our Msian harmony bond apart.

It the same as in religion too. When you claim Chinese in Indo assimilate into Indon's culture. Ask yourself one question, did Indo has special Bumiputera privilege over there ?
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i noticed many of them dont know how to differentiate the use of kami and kita. they easily confused with these 2 terms.
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Sos: https://waupost.com/primary-6-students-in-c...o-enter-form-1/

Sos 2: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...r-bm-to/2044239

If not your children become sampah masyarakat, can't even finish basic education, future gone just because you can't understand Malay
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By that effect, students who achieved TP1 to TP3 will be instructed to undergo the UPLBM assessment. Students who fail the UPLBM assessment will be put into ‘Kelas Peralihan‘, otherwise known as ‘Remove/Preparatory Class’, and be denied entry into Form 1.

The notice also said that pupils who fail the UPLBM test will be denied entry into Form 1, and referred to foundation class.
Source: MalaysiaKini

Students who managed to pass the UPLBM will be granted entry into Form 1

In the past, he said the ministry decides whether a Primary 6 pupil will be allowed entry into Form 1 based on the Ujian Pencapaian Sekolah Rendah (UPSR) result for the Bahasa Melayu language subject.

“If a pupil does not pass either writing or comprehension test, the pupil will be referred to foundation class. Now that UPSR is scrapped, the ministry has decided that Primary 6 pupils will be assessed based on their Bahasa Melayu subject results at the school.” he said.






NEXT TIME BACA HABIS LAH DEY!

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Even when PH/DAP was in power they don't have the ball to remove this "Kelas Peralihan".

LOL
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QUOTE(xenith @ Mar 2 2022, 01:55 AM)
Respect is earned and not forced down through the throat.

How do you expect others to respect your mother language when ownself goes and mix/rap/screw into rempit language. I'm think even Indo still talk better words without so many rojak unlike those evening drama in TV3.

Foreign workers learned faster because the environment force them to. Here how do you expect Nons to mingle when your top G blasting all those racist / bias statement and break our Msian harmony bond apart.

It the same as in religion too. When you claim Chinese in Indo assimilate into Indon's culture. Ask yourself one question, did Indo has special Bumiputera privilege over there ?
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You are right on indo have no special bumiputera. But as for their language, you seriously think they don't bastardize their language into WeChat or rempit form? Hahaha. Just like here they shortened lots of their words in order to compressed for sms and it carried over to the age of smartphone. For example, for "saya" they use "guwe" or "gue". Their rempit version is simply "gw".

More over they like to use lots of acronyms for their places/building etc. Unless you live there you will always have problem understanding their acronyms. Just like we use PULAPOL for pusat latihan polis, they use that format for almost every building, agency, whatever long words required.
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QUOTE(zeese @ Mar 2 2022, 12:33 AM)
You go to some other other countries, same also.. nothing new..
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Mar 2 2022, 09:38 AM)
By that effect, students who achieved TP1 to TP3 will be instructed to undergo the UPLBM assessment. Students who fail the UPLBM assessment will be put into ‘Kelas Peralihan‘, otherwise known as ‘Remove/Preparatory Class’, and be denied entry into Form 1.

The notice also said that pupils who fail the UPLBM test will be denied entry into Form 1, and referred to foundation class.
Source: MalaysiaKini

Students who managed to pass the UPLBM will be granted entry into Form 1

In the past, he said the ministry decides whether a Primary 6 pupil will be allowed entry into Form 1 based on the Ujian Pencapaian Sekolah Rendah (UPSR) result for the Bahasa Melayu language subject.

“If a pupil does not pass either writing or comprehension test, the pupil will be referred to foundation class. Now that UPSR is scrapped, the ministry has decided that Primary 6 pupils will be assessed based on their Bahasa Melayu subject results at the school.” he said.



NEXT TIME BACA HABIS LAH DEY!
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Basically kelas peralihan still exist. Just that now have 2nd chance to avoid the kelas peralihan unlike the previous method.

I don't why so many get butthurt with the second chance test when previously they didn't get butthurt with the kelas peralihan.

(Maybe they did get butthurt with kelas peralihan, just they forgot to rant in /k about it before.)

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i wonder what the use of getting good grades in BM for the future of our kids? I'm product of SK and SMK, i can speak/write very well in Bahasa, and even got A+ in SPM. Even some of my Malay colleague asked how come my Malay so good. Well, i told them because i use to talked in bahasa with all my friends in school, play kaki ayam football with them all the time. Now after graduate, and started working, i don't see any use of Bahasa, only when speak with other ppl. Most of the times, we still using english in all our paperwork (ISO/SIRIM/etc). Yes, bahasa is our bahasa kebangsaan, and i agreed that everyone must be able to speak/read not till tahap professor, and that's all.
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QUOTE(tupai @ Mar 2 2022, 09:49 AM)
Basically kelas peralihan still exist. Just that now have 2nd chance to avoid the kelas peralihan unlike the previous method.

I don't why so many get butthurt with the second chance test when previously they didn't get butthurt with the kelas peralihan.

(Maybe they did get butthurt with kelas peralihan, just they forgot to rant in /k about it before.)
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that's the thing. as if remove class never exist before.

that time no internet maybe lel

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MCA Youth to get feedback on plan to abolish Remove Class

KUALA LUMPUR (Oct 11): MCA Youth is organising a dialogue this Saturday on the proposal in the National Education Blueprint 2013-2025 to abolish Remove Class, with the aim of obtaining feedback from Chinese youths on the matter.

Young parents appear to have a different view than Chinese education groups on the need for Remove Class, Sin Chew Daily reported on Thursday.
Remove Class is a transition year between primary and secondary education for students from Chinese and Tamil schools who fail to get a minimum C in the Bahasa Malaysia papers in the UPSR examination.

Sin Chew quoted MCA Youth Education Bureau chairman Chong Sin Woon as saying that young parents supported the abolishment of Remove Class while the Chinese education groups wanted it retained with improvements to the syllabus.

“The children of these young parents are studying in (Chinese) primary schools. They want to give their views because any reform on education will affect them as well,” Chong said.

He disclosed that after a dialogue last week on the education blueprint, MCA Youth received calls from youth groups and individuals seeking to give their feedback on the matter.

He stressed that the plan to abolish Remove Class should not be viewed as a racial issue as non-Chinese pupils in Sabah and Sarawak were also facing difficulties in mastering Bahasa Malaysia.

He said if the Chinese community wished to retain Remove Class, it has to come out with suggestions on improving the syllabus.

On the other hand, if Remove Class is abolished, the Education Ministry must come out with a plan on improving the teaching and learning of Bahasa Malaysia, which could not be done by just increasing the number of periods in primary school.


Abolishing Remove Class is one of the 11 strategies outlined in the education blueprint. However, in order to achieve this, the Education Ministry has proposed that vernacular schools adopt the Bahasa Malaysia syllabus used in national schools for Year 4-6 pupils.

Chong agreed with the Chinese education groups that the standard of Bahasa Malaysia used in national schools was too high for Chinese school pupils, and stressed that any measure that the ministry adopted must take into account the student’s interest.

This MCA Youth dialogue, organised jointly with eight major Chinese youth organisations, will be held at Wisma MCA from 10.30am to 12.30pm on Saturday.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/mca-...sh-remove-class


PS: When PH/DAP become the gov they added JAWI into SRJK syllabus instead. While DAP Superman Hew distribute communist comic to the school. LOL





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QUOTE(Jv8888 @ Mar 2 2022, 09:53 AM)
i wonder what the use of getting good grades in BM for the future of our kids? I'm product of SK and SMK, i can speak/write very well in Bahasa, and even got A+ in SPM. Even some of my Malay colleague asked how come my Malay so good. Well, i told them because i use to talked in bahasa with all my friends in school, play kaki ayam football with them all the time. Now after graduate, and started working, i don't see any use of Bahasa, only when speak with other ppl. Most of the times, we still using english in all our paperwork (ISO/SIRIM/etc). Yes, bahasa is our bahasa kebangsaan, and i agreed that everyone must be able to speak/read not till tahap professor, and that's all.
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but she might be a KGB agent as well ... so ...

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2012: During Najib time as PM

MCA Youth to get feedback on plan to abolish Remove Class

KUALA LUMPUR (Oct 11): MCA Youth is organising a dialogue this Saturday on the proposal in the National Education Blueprint 2013-2025 to abolish Remove Class, with the aim of obtaining feedback from Chinese youths on the matter.

Young parents appear to have a different view than Chinese education groups on the need for Remove Class, Sin Chew Daily reported on Thursday.
Remove Class is a transition year between primary and secondary education for students from Chinese and Tamil schools who fail to get a minimum C in the Bahasa Malaysia papers in the UPSR examination.

Sin Chew quoted MCA Youth Education Bureau chairman Chong Sin Woon as saying that young parents supported the abolishment of Remove Class while the Chinese education groups wanted it retained with improvements to the syllabus.

“The children of these young parents are studying in (Chinese) primary schools. They want to give their views because any reform on education will affect them as well,” Chong said.

He disclosed that after a dialogue last week on the education blueprint, MCA Youth received calls from youth groups and individuals seeking to give their feedback on the matter.

He stressed that the plan to abolish Remove Class should not be viewed as a racial issue as non-Chinese pupils in Sabah and Sarawak were also facing difficulties in mastering Bahasa Malaysia.

He said if the Chinese community wished to retain Remove Class, it has to come out with suggestions on improving the syllabus.

On the other hand, if Remove Class is abolished, the Education Ministry must come out with a plan on improving the teaching and learning of Bahasa Malaysia, which could not be done by just increasing the number of periods in primary school.


Abolishing Remove Class is one of the 11 strategies outlined in the education blueprint. However, in order to achieve this, the Education Ministry has proposed that vernacular schools adopt the Bahasa Malaysia syllabus used in national schools for Year 4-6 pupils.

Chong agreed with the Chinese education groups that the standard of Bahasa Malaysia used in national schools was too high for Chinese school pupils, and stressed that any measure that the ministry adopted must take into account the student’s interest.

This MCA Youth dialogue, organised jointly with eight major Chinese youth organisations, will be held at Wisma MCA from 10.30am to 12.30pm on Saturday.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/mca-...sh-remove-class

PS: When PH/DAP become the gov they added JAWI into SRJK syllabus instead. While DAP Superman Hew distribute communist comic to the school. LOL
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I guesses after my post above many people will goes......krik...krik...krik

3rd years as PM:
Najib: Hey, u want to abolish Remove Class or not?
MCA: Let me discuss with the stakeholders.

No wonder Najib was invited to gave speech at Fong Yew Chinese school.

LOL

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Suddenly have to enter government school since couldn't afford private secondary school, for sure mulut kejang when speak bm, worst is failed to understand
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Mar 2 2022, 09:55 AM)
that's the thing. as if remove class never exist before.

that time no internet maybe lel

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Johor having state election, hired guns posting divisive opinions, talk bad of country and indirectly the govment to swing votes...

Or this forum too many born overseas and not living & raised here, blurred in general knowledge that we take for granted... plus naive enough to believe what hired guns posted were the true general understanding and feelings here...

Or this forum got too many privilege young adults raised and grew up in g&g communities, never travel outside of the g&g community except to classes and holidays abroad.

So how they know there're small towns everywhere in the country that don't have secondary schools in chinese (and tamil) medium, and only primary schools... and a transition year is needed to equip the pupils changing into malay medium secondary schools.

When these people asked why SRK no need remove class, they already talking nonsense as if SRK is only for malays and don't have pupils from other races.






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Offcourse if fail bahasa fail life
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2012: During Najib time as PM

MCA Youth to get feedback on plan to abolish Remove Class

KUALA LUMPUR (Oct 11): MCA Youth is organising a dialogue this Saturday on the proposal in the National Education Blueprint 2013-2025 to abolish Remove Class, with the aim of obtaining feedback from Chinese youths on the matter.

Young parents appear to have a different view than Chinese education groups on the need for Remove Class, Sin Chew Daily reported on Thursday.
Remove Class is a transition year between primary and secondary education for students from Chinese and Tamil schools who fail to get a minimum C in the Bahasa Malaysia papers in the UPSR examination.

Sin Chew quoted MCA Youth Education Bureau chairman Chong Sin Woon as saying that young parents supported the abolishment of Remove Class while the Chinese education groups wanted it retained with improvements to the syllabus.

“The children of these young parents are studying in (Chinese) primary schools. They want to give their views because any reform on education will affect them as well,” Chong said.

He disclosed that after a dialogue last week on the education blueprint, MCA Youth received calls from youth groups and individuals seeking to give their feedback on the matter.

He stressed that the plan to abolish Remove Class should not be viewed as a racial issue as non-Chinese pupils in Sabah and Sarawak were also facing difficulties in mastering Bahasa Malaysia.

He said if the Chinese community wished to retain Remove Class, it has to come out with suggestions on improving the syllabus.

On the other hand, if Remove Class is abolished, the Education Ministry must come out with a plan on improving the teaching and learning of Bahasa Malaysia, which could not be done by just increasing the number of periods in primary school.


Abolishing Remove Class is one of the 11 strategies outlined in the education blueprint. However, in order to achieve this, the Education Ministry has proposed that vernacular schools adopt the Bahasa Malaysia syllabus used in national schools for Year 4-6 pupils.

Chong agreed with the Chinese education groups that the standard of Bahasa Malaysia used in national schools was too high for Chinese school pupils, and stressed that any measure that the ministry adopted must take into account the student’s interest.

This MCA Youth dialogue, organised jointly with eight major Chinese youth organisations, will be held at Wisma MCA from 10.30am to 12.30pm on Saturday.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/mca-...sh-remove-class
PS: When PH/DAP become the gov they added JAWI into SRJK syllabus instead. While DAP Superman Hew distribute communist comic to the school. LOL
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Ph/dap kinda continue the jawi addition to BM on srjk.

The policy on remove class wasn't finalized it when pH won the GE14.
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Pakatan’s first mega ceramah for Johor campaign
=> The ceramah attracted about 50 people

sos:
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...zwXXiGZnhIsmDuE


LOL
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QUOTE(tupai @ Mar 1 2022, 02:53 PM)
The wierd system is designed to tindas nons. I am not kidding. I do actually agree with the /k narrative that gomen tindas nons. I notice the unfairness of it
but  I also like to make fun of those who became sewel after all the penindasan.
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Mar 1 2022, 03:01 PM)
Wow seriously? I do not know that
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Yup. And and.. do you know that the whole Peralihan syllabus do not have Mathematics class for the whole year? It's so obvious they just want to slow down the SRJK kids laugh.gif

And do you know that before my time, my seniors, just 2 years older than me, they need to get straight As (or was it 3 or 4 As) in UPSR to skip Peralihan. You get 2 As in BM, but the rest Bs and you still need to go for the Remove year. Not even about BM laugh.gif

My elder sister, 1981, had 2 As 4 Bs and had to go Peralihan. Remove class was the norm back then.

Then came my time where you only need to pass BM, easy peasy.

But yeah those days, Peralihan was just foul laugh.gif

 

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