my friend keep on asking me to buy a NDSL =.= but i duno why la i also kind like the game in DS too.. yet i duno all the system work out and any feature too


so anyone mind to explain what NDSL can do ? and the ahem ahem game how to work with firmare what ? want to do some research before i buy please and thx Q

perhaps you would like to read:

this & THIS first.

u can check the faqs..

i think u have to figure the answer out urself la.....

=.= if i know what the DSlite could do i won't not have asked here =_=! whoever has DSLite mind share what the best part of the DSlite can do? it seem to me that PSP can play movie while DSlite can't= ="

u are wrong!!!!really wrong!!!!!with homebrew..ds can play movie as well.

Oh crap >_<

PSP is an entertainment device.

NDSL is a gaming device.

Entertainment include music, movie, gaming and etc...

Gaming is purely literally gaming...

And you could read the links penman posted for a rough idea about the NDSL.

In general, PSP is an all-rounder being able to listen music, watch movie/clips and play games (with good graphic most times). However, I personally find PSP not so practical, it's for flaunting purpose only.

NDSL is designed for gaming, unique dual-screen with a touch screen. Initially, it was created with the mindset of letting EVERYONE enjoy gaming; from young to old, men and women..
And that is why the NDSL has a great arsenal of games.
With the help of stuff like R4, the NDSL can be an entertainment device too; but will never be as good as PSP.

If you see no reason to like the NDSL and could not appreciate its simplicity; then by all means get the oh-so-more sophisticated PSP

Good luck! I still don't have a NDSL lol

well to be frank with you, like what bid had mentioned... you have to figure out yourself~loh.

'cos ppl can't decide for you. And it's subjective to individual's preferences.

For instance, I think NDS is the best, however, you might disagree.

The only thing you can do is do some research yourself. There's a FAQ located on the Nintendo Index page, and I believed there's a FAQ on PSP on the PS section.

Make some comparisons, no one will know what kind of games/tastes/choices you like...

IMO, I believed you are not doing enough research. You are just too comfortable not to surf the web or do a search on google/wikipedia, waiting for people to spoon feed and decide for you. We might feeding you with the wrong spoon with wrong food... you know?

On top of that, there are passionate fella forumers, make effort to prepare these FAQs for ppl to read, perhaps by reading these FAQs, will enlighten your knowledge/choices.

I guess you probably think LYN Ninty ppl ain't friendly+not helpful, after reading these replies. Well, again... the fact is no one can decide for you what is best for you.

Your friend keep asking you to buy, why not you check with him/her? Try out his/her DS... and see if DS is what you want.

If we know which system suits you best, then we wouldn't post these replies either~loh. =_="

You can also try to come at the shop and try (but make sure u contact the seller first). Most shop listed in LYN usually give u a chance to test drive the console u wanna buy. So yeah...my suggestion, contact one of the sellers here and ask for their advice or try b4 buy service.

You can tell them that u can't decide between a ndsl and a psp...I'm sure they'll give u a trial run at the shop...coz that's what I did at SCE. And also...it would help if u really...really want to buy one of the console.

This post has been edited by PhoenixByte: Sep 22 2007, 06:32 PM

act, i know not say spoon feeding is that ... ermm i want to know what NDSL can do ... watch movie and ?

If you're 12 & below, get a DS lite. It's fun games for Mario etc. If you want multimedia capabilities, browsing Internet, GPS, camera, TV tuner, good graphics game, mature games etc go for PSP(it's almost as powerful as the PS2 or so I heard). I would buy DS lite for my kids and PSP for myself. Not to dish the DS, I feel PSP offer more "values" with their price range now. The core set is only about >+RM100~200 about more expensive then the DS. During launch PSP was expensive as hell!! now with Slim version and they very competitive price. The thing that ACE IT for me is the maturity of the homebrew scene for the PSP & market of the "ahem" games. I support originals and do have those GB, GB advance but now migrated to PSP. If those don't convince you, Crisis Core, Metal Gear, Jeane D'Arc, GTA etc hopefully will. As I said, it's a matter of preference....Mario vs the Rest....I love Mario, currently playing N64 emulator version in PSP. That says a lot...

The DS has no multimedia capability out of the box. A first party multimedia software exists, which brings limited multimedia functions to the DS. Music playback should work well enough, but if video is what you want(either using the first party Play-Yan or a 3rd party homebrew player), get a PSP. The limited hardware power doesn't do much to help multimedia stuff on the DS, but that's just it, the DS is a handheld gaming device, no more, no less.

If you want multimedia, stop asking stupid questions and go buy yourself a PSP.

y get DS???
the reason following....

Reason 1
Reason 2
Reason 3
Reason 4
And finally
Reason 5

i think u will automatically know wat to do after seeing these reason

Here's an easier way to make your decision easier, just answer us this.

putting aside from technological difference and functionality (mp3, video) ...

What sort of games are u into? What genre?

hoho.. i thin, you buy two... hehe... DS graphic wise not as good as PSP.... especially in 3D.... one more thing... PSP games are usually bigger in size.... DS is way smaller...

DS canplay video after some conversion using R4DS... it has moonshell.. i am using it... remember the screensize is smaller compare to PSP....

Tell you wat.. dun buy NDSL... screw your frien... buy PSP for yourself and save you the trouble of asking wtr can play video and music....

what DS can do? you can poke the screen like mad. LOL.

actually, the touchscreen provide different level of experience in gaming.

i act own a xbox 360 previous de so i love a game call castle crasher ~ u can found that game on ign or gamespot! i love that kind of game ~

I own both.

My advice: Buy both.

i see =.=.. what the difference of NDSL and PSP?

both = PS3 liao..
buy PS3 la..

can NDSL play gameboy games?

ps3 now only 1.5k?

You could play the game boy advance games with it.

If u ask me, i get these kind of questions all of the time from my friends. What I would say, if you wanna play games and give more emphasis on that, go for DS Lite.

If you want a better entertainment of movies and music quality at u, while playing some good games, go for PSP.

Both got what it takes, just the emphasis is different.

But then the touch screen is really innovative, enabling a whole new type of games being invented.

Play the PSP on the train and you feel like the king of cool. It's a sexy looking piece of kit guaranteed to get you noticed for all the right reasons. The DS, on the other hand, makes you look like a geek. For starters it's a cheap-looking clunky silver brick rather than a slick gadget, and while the touch-screen makes for innovative gameplay, you can't help feeling stupid waggling the stylus or blowing on the mic in public. Games that use speech recognition are on the horizon too but do you really want to be seen screaming at your console on a packed bus? Didn't think so.

When buying portable gaming device, what is/are your main concern[s], battery life, graphics, build? Or maybe something that can do other cool stuff than just games? Maybe connectivity, watching movies?

Wait, DS can do those things too! Google 'Sony PSP vs Nintendo DS'

This post has been edited by PearlyLPU: Sep 23 2007, 04:34 PM

this is a wierd thing..... somebody ask a NDSL gang why NDS good.... why dun you ask PSP gang why PSP good.... then you get a better idea f which toget.... i think you better do your homework and then decide... if it is based on us... then dont blame us for getting yourself a wrong console....

buy PSP la... save you the trouble of thinking about can play music or video or surf net.... or picture viewing.... bigger screen... better graphics.. what can you ask for???

ok this is what ds lite can do with the right hardware/software

play innovative games using touch screen
microphone
brightness adjustment to save battery
surf net
msn
watch video
listen to mp3
drawing
personal pda (calender, calculator, etc.)
2 screens!
plenty of upcoming square-enix RPGs games
mario
watch TV (in japan)
there's also a hardware that detects movement, something like PS3 sixaxis or wii remote
best selling handheld in the WORLD
wi-fi multiplayer

hmmm.... what else

previous i got my self a PSP fat version... and i feel i dont like those game~ when i was 2 ~ 3 year back i play pokemon! and i felt t hat these game look more suitable and entertainment too! so i just want do some homework based on NDSL gang~ cause u guys own a NDSL will be more expert and elite on these thing~

1 more thing ~ i do some homework base on R4 and i read the article and function of it .. i still not quite understand yet.. i think is something like a brain of nintendo DS Lite right ? ... if R4 is a memory stick then why i need to get a 1GB memory stick somemore? kind confused mind explain 2 me please~~~ pretty please~~~


Wow NDSL can play msn ??? for REAL ?

This post has been edited by froz3nnoob: Sep 23 2007, 06:55 PM

ok la... i will give yousome slack.... R4DS is a little piece of hardware that doenst have anybrain in it... just like a computer without a harddrive.... the microSD is the harddrive... where you get the OS (software) in to the harddriver(microSD).... so is like for R4DS.... kapish.... you store all your stuff in the microSD... videos, music and also your backup games.... and you just play it over R4DS..

do yourself a favor then... get NDSL and forget bout PSP entirely...

i see okaokay~ ermm... just want make sure that i won't regret the 2th time ~~"

If u're looking not to regret any decision u make, u shud make ur own decisions urself.

Better do ur research on ur own, compare both systems theoretically and physically.

Dun let ur judgement affected by others, cause that'll make ur decision bias.



PS. Definition of Spoon feed

If you like Multimedia stuff on the go, get a PSP. The DS can't do anything that's multimedia related unless you're really gonna go *AHEM!* But really the game's beat the shit out of PSP hands down, that's why you should buy a DS Lite, and it's also why it's called a GAMING SYSTEM, not a "I-wanna-show-you-I'm-rich-look-at-this-graphics" thing.

R4 is not da brain lar But it's very user friendly. Doing all the MP3 stuff is simple, but IMHO the video quality SUCKS! *lari* anyways, like everyone here said, get a DS, cos' you have a 360, that should be your multimedia-thingy, not the PSP.

-REMOVE-!


about this u guys say can play gameboy advance game right? so i need to buy the tape or i download into ndsl r4 card? just order a ndsl from sce ^^

This post has been edited by froz3nnoob: Sep 25 2007, 09:39 PM

u cannot ask questions like that. its against the rules.

okay it has been removed ^^ sorry~

u can use flash kart to play gba games. i think all new nds flash kart support gba games, supercard, ezflash, m3, g6, etc... so far r4 is the best choice...

FYI, There are two types of Flashcards, Slot-1 (e.g. R4DS, M3 Simply) and Slot-2 (M3, Supercard Mini-SD, Lite), and as far as I know Slot-1's only can run DS Roms and DS homebrew, and not GBA games.

Buy the cartridge la. Support original...already know the tone of this forum still have to ask..

Most of the ppl here are hardcore or so called anti-piracy (i am not)...so dun waste your time asking... unless some kind soul will tell it to you...

I gave my PSP to my sister. Between PSP and NDS (the old one), I still like the NDS games more than the PSP games.

PSP was heavy so hand got tired very easily. Maybe guys have stronger hand. Hee hee!

Recently a news stated that the students in a school located in Japanese studying their math lesson just by using the Nintendo DS! IN fact, their multiplication skill increased and this surely impressed their teachers. They will usually stay back for extra class and do their revision.

Besides, the touch screen features for NDSL is also another yet attractive features that attracted ME to buy it LOL. IF you prefer more realistic 3D games ranging from action to adventure genre, PSP is your choice. LIkewise, if you prefer cell-shading, anime style graphic and didn't mind at all about the 3D graphic, NDSL is your choice.

FYI, there are a various of games that only available exclusively for NDS and some of them ultilize the touch screen features nicely.

Sync,
Yeah, I've read somewhere about students using NDSL to jot down notes and etc....I wonder what software they use for that. Some more math on NDSL? That's so cool....

yaya i saw that article at The stars In-TEch ^^ i saw that and make me want NDSL straight away hahah =P just a problem that i don't know what the card need to use very confusing T.T!

just buy la. no need to think anymore. u will not regret it.

If you want a good comparison between a PSP and NDSL, compare their selling features:

PSP is very powerful, sort of like a portable PS2 with widescreen, so if you love PS2 games, and feel like carrying a small PS2 around, get the PSP. The powerful system also allow the PSP to do more things, the PSP can emulates more powerful old consoles better than the NDSL does, via homebrews, although, both system seems to have a good range of emulators. Well, why am I mentioning emulators? Because emulators = More games.

Another selling point of a PSP would be the Media player, but this can be easily countered by NDSL with a proper flashcart(R4) and homebrews, a bit more confusing, but it works, on a smaller screen though.

As for the NDSL, whilst being a lot less powerful, it is like a portable N64, almost on par with the PSOne if we don't count the catridge capacity. The selling points are of course the dual screen and the touchscreen/stylus. If the games properly utilize both features you get a very satisfying gameplay that the PSP will not give.

Another thing I am amazed with the touchscreen is how much it can do, for gaming, the touch screen can simulates unlimted "buttons" for control purpose. It also works as a mouse in most games, or a drawing pen, or even simulate a keyboard to be used in many homebrews(MSN, IRC, etc.).

Simple put, I disagree with the saying of the NDSL being solely a handheld console, i have been doing MSN and even painting artworks with my NDSL but of course, for it to do more, you will need a flashcart(R4). After all, the choice is yours, so decide well.

EDIT: I almost forgot to mention, the NDSL plays GBA's cartridges, which means, if we add the GBA games library to NDSL, you get to play a crazy bunch of more games on it.

This post has been edited by Kellicros: Sep 26 2007, 07:43 PM

so what the latest price for ndsl now? with 2gb micro sd card~

you can ask Bernard in Gamer Solution topic

i just pm sce, a console dealer i think u should know him!. bought from him rm800 the package include 2gb micro sd card and other thing too ~

haha, welcome to the club, and have fun with your new console!

heheh thank dude! so the price ? reasonable?

I don't know whats included in your package, but usually, I would buy the Microsd separately from another shop specifically selling computer stuff.(e.g. lowyat plaza)

If I remember correctly, they sell 1GB bundle at RM720, so you add 80 to replace the 1GB with 2GB, but think about it this way, if you buy the 1GB bundle at RM720, and use the other RM80, add 20 more to buy another 2GB for PC stores(2GB kingston is about rm100 currently), you get 1GB+2GB =3GB.

But then, if you calculate this way: a R4 is about RM150, 2G microsd RM100, both equal to RM250. RM800-RM250 = RM550, so you have your console at RM550 which is the normal price of non-R4-bundle NDSL, quite cheap actually and pretty much worth it I guess.

i got 1 more question, usually 2gb micro gb card can put how many ahem games?? and the browser got ahem type?

Since you are going that way, here's a step by step method to calculating how many "ahem" games that you can fit into a 2GB micro SD card...and these set of steps are a personal favourite of mine:

i. Go to google.com
ii. Search for you "ahem" games. Let me help you with one of the keywords: ROM
iii. Once you find the game that you like...download it!
iv. Once downloaded, don't forget to uncompress it, they are usually available on the Net as .Zip or Rar files to save on download time.
v. Right click the ahem game file (it ends with the extension .nds) and click on Properties.
vi. What do you know...the size is stated on the Properties page!
vii. Now...do the math! Remember...not all ahem games come in the same size!

i see okay.. sorry la -.- i kind weird. i just asked question and keep on saying spoon feeding and know the web of ahem games~

when 1 person called me a noob, it's an individual's prejudice.
when everyone starts calling me a noob, probably I am one.

I think you should have noticed from the start that talk about pirated games is not allowed, and since you had the common sense to remove your earlier post, do try to find out more about "the web of ahem games" somewhere else. Google will be your best friend when it comes to that... here's the link -> www.google.com

Just don't ask questions that can be easily answered via google, even better, every time you have a question, search around first before you ask, chances are that you get your answers instantly without people badmouthing you. If you need opinions, I can let you have my thoughts though.

and last but not least, don't mention the ahem stuff lah, people here seem to get upset when they heard it, well of course, that is exactly why the stuff are called ahem stuff.