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TSzib5
post Feb 17 2022, 04:39 PM, updated 4y ago

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Is it possible?
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post Feb 17 2022, 05:02 PM

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https://www.bursamalaysia.com/trade/trading...d_short_selling
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post Feb 18 2022, 05:45 AM

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Buy warrants instead
TSzib5
post Feb 18 2022, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Feb 18 2022, 06:45 AM)
Buy warrants instead
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what is warrant actually?

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post Feb 18 2022, 11:27 AM

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short FKLI futures (margin RM4,000 i think, but if you have RM40-80k, you no need to worry of the margin)

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post Feb 18 2022, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(pysh @ Feb 17 2022, 06:02 PM)
I am using PB investment platform.

Can't short or sell stocks I dont own.
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post Feb 18 2022, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Feb 18 2022, 12:27 PM)
short FKLI futures (margin RM4,000 i think, but if you have RM40-80k, you no need to worry of the margin)
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how?
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post Feb 18 2022, 11:30 AM

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wanted to edit my post but you saw it already...

ok here goes
you can open a futures account with your broker.
if you are afraid of leverage, you can just buy 0835EA counter, which is shorting the FBM KLCI index without leverage
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post Feb 18 2022, 11:37 AM

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U find a broker that can offer u IDSS.However, that is only intra day shorting of the stocks. U have to close position by end of day

The longer term shorting is called RSS, no broker offer that to normal retail.

Otherwise, as mentioned by others, trade futures FKLI or find a broker that allows u to trade 0835EA.



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post Feb 18 2022, 11:47 AM

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yea as per Cubalagi bro.. u need special brokers that can short
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post Feb 18 2022, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(zib5 @ Feb 18 2022, 11:25 AM)
what is warrant actually?
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Warrants are issued by companies, giving the holder the right but not the obligation to buy a security at a particular price.
Companies often include warrants as part of share offerings to entice investors into buying the new security.
Warrants tend to exaggerate the percentage change movement compared to the underlying share price.
Types of Warrants
There are two different types of warrants: call warrants and put warrants. A call warrant represents a specific number of shares that can be purchased from the issuer at a specific price, on or before a certain date. A put warrant represents a certain amount of equity that can be sold back to the issuer at a specified price, on or before a stated date.

If you seriously wanna short the warrant is the best as it cheap and easy to get out because unlike 0835ea as the volume is low

You need to which company you interested and put warrants in Bursa
TSzib5
post Feb 18 2022, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Feb 18 2022, 03:43 PM)
Warrants are issued by companies, giving the holder the right but not the obligation to buy a security at a particular price.
Companies often include warrants as part of share offerings to entice investors into buying the new security.
Warrants tend to exaggerate the percentage change movement compared to the underlying share price.
Types of Warrants
There are two different types of warrants: call warrants and put warrants. A call warrant represents a specific number of shares that can be purchased from the issuer at a specific price, on or before a certain date. A put warrant represents a certain amount of equity that can be sold back to the issuer at a specified price, on or before a stated date.

If you seriously wanna short the warrant is the best as it cheap and easy to get out because unlike 0835ea as the volume is low

You need to which company you interested and put warrants in Bursa
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sounds like options to me
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post Feb 18 2022, 03:06 PM

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oops double post

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post Feb 18 2022, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(zib5 @ Feb 18 2022, 03:06 PM)
sounds like options to me
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Very different as warrant is obligation and must while options are contracts which are not binding doh.gif

The only same thing with both is whether you put or call
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post Feb 18 2022, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Feb 18 2022, 03:15 PM)
while options are contracts which are not binding  doh.gif
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have you opened any positions in options before (FYI, i do. vanilla and synthetic options)? I don't see how if i sold an option that ITM, I can choose to not deliver if the holder wanted to exercise it.

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post Feb 18 2022, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Feb 18 2022, 03:24 PM)
have you opened any positions in options before (FYI, i do. vanilla and synthetic options)? I don't see how if i sold an option that ITM, I can choose to not deliver if the holder wanted to exercise it.
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Read properly the word called not binding doh.gif
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post Feb 20 2022, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(zib5 @ Feb 18 2022, 03:06 PM)
sounds like options to me
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https://www.wallstreetmojo.com/options-vs-warrants

based on above, and my fut/options trading experience, Warrants are issued by the parent company (so there's a fixed amount), while options are created by the Put/Call seller (number of options created can be viewed in the "open interest" column)

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i think can ignore xander83 unless he can explain what he meant by binding biggrin.gif

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post Feb 21 2022, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Feb 20 2022, 02:43 PM)
user posted image
https://www.wallstreetmojo.com/options-vs-warrants

based on above, and my fut/options trading experience, Warrants are issued by the parent company (so there's a fixed amount), while options are created by the Put/Call seller (number of options created can be viewed in the "open interest" column)

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i think can ignore xander83 unless he can explain what he meant by binding biggrin.gif
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BINDING = Obligation doh.gif

You are wrong again as warrant is not issued by parent company unlike shares whereby only can be issue do by licensed issuers and in Malaysia there’s only 6 warrant issuers doh.gif
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post Feb 21 2022, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Feb 21 2022, 04:15 PM)
BINDING = Obligation  doh.gif
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can you elaborate more?

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post Feb 21 2022, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Feb 21 2022, 04:34 PM)
can you elaborate more?
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Already elaborate clearly doh.gif

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