Normally this is what I'm going to do:

1) Forward the TNB's invoice to the tenant as the soft reminder.

2) Unpaid second month, forward subsequent month invoice with reminder + formal letter from owner notifying breach of TA condition for not paying the utilities billing. This is the beginning step to build up the case against the tenant.

3) I'll forward an of TNB message notifying that there will be electricity cut by what date. Any disconnection & reconnection fees to be by borne by tenant - they will usually freak out on this. Usually after this message is out, within 1 or 2 days, the bill will be cleared. *

* you pandai-pandai la buat TNB mesaj if you don't have that standard reply from TNB.

As landlord, why need to go to that extend. You have the right to remind the tenant about the outstanding since is your name.

If tenant know landlord is monitoring, he will be serious in settling the outstanding. Otherwise, kick him out when TA due

hi, i usually paid my bills once every 3 month or so

cos my monthly bills to cheap to pay monthly (rm<30)

usually i wait until it become 100 or so, baru syiok



sometimes you'll encounter gila tenant like me, doesnt mean i cant pay

edit : of cos i wont let it accumulated more than my electricity deposit. that is just wrong

This post has been edited by motion_sickness: Feb 18 2022, 11:54 AM

I don't see any extreme move by doing it. If the TNB's power cutting notification SMS is genuine one, as the landlord, your are in the opinion that the owner should just keep quiet & let the TNB to proceed to cut the power & let the tenant suffer the damages on the spoiled goods in their refrigerator? I'm more inclined to inform.

If the tenant are repeating same behavior after that even though landlord didn't receive the TNB notification, I'll extend the fabricated TNB's message ( change the AC number , date, address , etc) to discipline their utility payment behavior. The fabricated SMS didn't inflict ay cost or damages but gives the desire outcome.

This post has been edited by nihility: Feb 18 2022, 01:58 PM

sounds odd ? doesn't pay TNB but ontime paying rental ? odd memang odd

Not odd but very common. When you stop paying TNB, TNB can take a very long time to cut your supply. Sometimes 6 -12 months.

Download the TnB app to monitor the usage and get PDF copy of the bill every month, forward the bill thru WhatsApp or whatever means both of you use to communicate.

2 out of 4 of my tenants are slow in paying both rent and utilities, gotta spam them every week (written messages for future references in case needed in court case).

These fuckheads are epitome of machauhei.

I wait for the fabricated sms b4 payment. If no sms means no cut lor.

If landlord no call monthly, no need pay rental ... same also. Have to fabricate sms .... lol.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Feb 18 2022, 03:35 PM

Only need to do for the TNB one. So far it is working fine by borrowing knife (TNB) to discipline the previous tenants.

The rental part, if they don't pay within the time frame, they will get letter from me. After I served 3 notices on the breach of the TA condition, I'll ask them to vacate my unit. So far haven't go until that extend. Normally after 1 formal notice, they will start to behave.

double post - deleted

This post has been edited by nihility: Feb 18 2022, 03:50 PM

That only works with tenant with conscience. If u meet with tenant from hell, your letter is as good as toilet paper. In residential home with meter inside the porch, TNB will never cut the supply for u. I got a friend with bad tenant, begging TNB to cut the supply for 7-8 month w accumulated bill >RM4k. Their reply, can t cut because gate is locked and no one inside.

Luckily I haven't meet one & hopefully do not have to meet any of this kind. I still got tricks in my sleeve if the letter is not working, hopefully there is no need to go until that extend.

For the TNB meter inside the porch, spend some money to relocate the meter to the position outside of the porch. All the new developments, the TNB's requirement is to have the meter located outside the porch to prevent this issue.

Meanwhile, it has been 3 weeks since we moved out and the owner hasn't return the 2 months deposit despite she agreed to do so after 15th Feb...

If cut electric and water will affect the house?

Pro and Cons
Pro is don't need to worry the bill
Cons is when tenant not pay rent.. landlord cannot cut electric + water

Thats what I think
Don't think change account to tennant is a solution at all

Unless the outstanding bill amount can transfer to tennant own property account then different story

This post has been edited by yehlai: Jul 4 2024, 09:56 AM

Break down your cons further

Loss of rent + electricity
Or
Loss of rent only

If tenant pandai keep paying electricity then won't have cut but then action is up to you on the rent part.

Being a landlord it's not easy money ya.

If unable to cut electric
tennant stay 6 months or yrs easily cost more than electric bill

2 months no pay I cut alrdy

i love landlords.
You headache all the problem while i am protected by laws.

buy house, home loan blah blah blah.

I tired of your place, i move next slot...

When rent out the house, the best way is transfer ownership of TNB to the tenant then if have any due, will find them instead of you. If they curi electric will find them.

Easy to transfer just give copy of tenancy agreement.

It's already highlighted many times its flaw.
Yes TNB will look for the tenant.... BUT
If the bill under the tenants name is not settled, TNB won't connect back the supply to that affected property. End up, landlord will have to settle it.

This post has been edited by Singh_Kalan: Jul 5 2024, 03:41 PM