Helo Sifu all,

I have a dilemma, the layout of my house is as below. I have a beam on the right hand side which marked yellow, that's between kitchen and ground floor room. It does not goes up to the roof, just at the first floor, there's water tank above at the roof, I have two options:

Note: There is a water tank above for the 2nd toilets.


1. Remove the column and use RC / RSJ beam to support it back.
2. Move the single floor column to the right and hide it in the room wall making my room smaller.
(This is Original layout. I have drawn another new layout where walls has to come down.

The column is pretty thin as i detected it 6" x 6".

What options do I have ?

Of course the best would be able to remove it without having to shift it.

Sifu, architects, draftsman. Please help.

Thanks.





This post has been edited by enzoch: Feb 13 2022, 01:34 AM

Reds are thick columns that goes up the roof
Orange are ground floor only columns
Blues are beams that runs on the ceiling.

Yes break off that orange column to make dining and kitchen with bigger space to see each other so it looks more open concept. This is an old house build with perfect symmetry, 10 feet left , 10 feet right. So opening up the space this way make it looks bigger.

The modification is like below. You are right, some of my friend who's in construction business said, it MAY be there to support the door but why must it use a concrete steel rebar column?

I need more opinions from sifu sifu here... whether is it safe to remove this column.

1. remove entirely without doing anything (least cost)
2. shift to the corner of the room (most cost) forcing the ground room wall has to move up (L shape) to hide the column
3. use RC beam, RSJ beam.







This post has been edited by enzoch: Feb 13 2022, 08:26 AM

https://sourceforge.net/projects/sweethome3d/

I just went into the house and did a roof inspection, the water wasnt there as mentioned before it is located in the diagram below.

Therefore that column is not to support the water tank. The only on top of the column is only the bedroom walls.

Thank you sifu all for your comments, went into the house today and redetect all the beams and columns,

thickness of the column and also the beams.

What puzzle me is that the column that i want it remove is only 2 feet 8 inch apart from the big column straight up to the roof.

Please refer to the picture below. Though the beam is not straight but goes in a zig zag manner. can the center beam support it as well ?

Guys, I am seeking for opinions and suggestions, definitely I will seek for professional advice in the later stage. dont have to put disclaimer here and there saying I am not architect/draftsman and please get professional advice.
If every comment I get is asking me to get professional advice. What's the point of this forum anyway ?

Lets have constructive discussions here, (sometimes I find lowyat members Love to be keyboard warriors). Anyway I cant stop you all from being one.

1. Look at the blue beams existing beams
2. Look at the Main big columns red
3. Look at the Orange column I want to remove (small a standard wall 6" x 6")
4. Look at the the distance apart from the main column and the orange column.
5. Look at the orange beam, it is at the T joint of the beams.
6. Beside the orange beam, there's a door

I am not looking for majority say, I am looking for a constructive POV.
What I found after all the chat is

1. Dont Remove, It will collapse.
3. Get professional advice.

i dont see any PROs and CONs suggestion as there is no option given at all through out the chat at all, all i get is it will collapse or professional advice

Since this are the suggestions I get, I have no choice to just go for option 3 because non has experience this before, and non is architect or draftsman or expert in this field.

P/s : I like your comment about the support room door. That's what that column does.



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This post has been edited by enzoch: Feb 14 2022, 07:58 AM