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TSAnthonian
post Feb 10 2022, 06:23 PM, updated 2y ago

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I had invested in Asia Plantation Capital Agarwood trees in Thailand .It was 7 years ago.Until now , I cannot get a reply from them.I emailed their general support but no reply with answer.I called their salesmen and office but no one answer.I guessed I was scammed.

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"Asia Plantation Capital Agarwood" and asking if its a scam. LEL
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Cny kot. All scammer also need holiday.
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post Feb 10 2022, 06:28 PM

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yes scam confirmed
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post Feb 10 2022, 06:29 PM

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TS..i suggest u go read google reviews about the company..
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post Feb 10 2022, 06:31 PM

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Please now invest in Musang king plantation... it's closer in Merehsia.. no need go far far... also velli good returns they say...

You can do this while waiting for Thai counterpart to reply on your agarwood investment...
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Yeap , on my profile . I wrote Lorry driver . As she was talking to me , another guy behind me signed her to stop as I can't give them $$$$$ ... Hahahah . Capital F la to them
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I hear agarwood, i know alrdy
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post Feb 10 2022, 06:42 PM

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How much you invested?
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QUOTE(Anthonian @ Feb 10 2022, 06:23 PM)
I had invested in Asia Plantation Capital Agarwood trees in Thailand .It was 7 years ago.Until now , I cannot get a reply from them.I emailed their general support but no reply with answer.I called their salesmen and office but no one answer.I guessed I was scammed.
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Too late to ask here, you have been scammed.
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post Feb 10 2022, 06:47 PM

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havent heard agarwood scheme for ages.
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post Feb 10 2022, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(upcars @ Feb 10 2022, 06:26 PM)
Cny kot. All scammer also need holiday.
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Upcar already.
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post Feb 11 2022, 12:59 PM

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Can anyone else in this situation give some advise on how to follow up.

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post Feb 11 2022, 01:03 PM

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U asking this question 7 years too late
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post Feb 11 2022, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(gogocan @ Feb 11 2022, 01:03 PM)
U asking this question 7 years too late
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I checked their parent company website and still exist.But no report of Malaysia branch.
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post Feb 11 2022, 01:33 PM

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rugi how muchie?
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check with SSM, then make police report

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post Feb 11 2022, 02:01 PM

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I got invite just in 2018. One to one talk, very forced...the food sucks so I left.
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post Feb 20 2022, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Feb 11 2022, 01:54 PM)
check with SSM, then make police report
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The ex salesperson and marketing manager replied me. They were terminated and ask me to contact their office.I emailed to their email and now waiting for their reply.
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post Feb 20 2022, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Anthonian @ Feb 11 2022, 12:59 PM)
Can anyone else in this situation give some advise on how to follow up.
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how much kena burn?

treat it as pay tuition fee.


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post Feb 20 2022, 08:04 PM

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Give me their bank account Can check
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company with no website or even proper introduction is already a red flag
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post Feb 20 2022, 08:12 PM

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That name itself screams of conjob like Indah Kayangan Sdn Bhd or Dragon Cloud Pheonix Fire Ventures Pte Ltd
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post Feb 20 2022, 08:15 PM

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How much kena con? Share lah.
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post Feb 20 2022, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Feb 20 2022, 08:04 PM)
Give me their bank account Can check
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Not sure if you can really help or just trolling but below is the acc num I could find
5010 1167 1540 & 5010 1167 1072, both maybank
Swift code : mbbemykljob

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post Feb 20 2022, 08:37 PM

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Not scamming.

The staffs just went for an extra long holiday, splashing their easy money, living lavish lifestyle, etc

No worries, they will in contact with TS and other investors soon.
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post Feb 20 2022, 08:41 PM

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Fall for so called investment project but when ask donation to good program ie: orphanage, old folks home.....krik krik krik
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had you bought tesla or apple 7 years ago

now already fat fat
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they make so much profit they forgot about u....wait they count the profit to share...its too much takes very long time to count
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QUOTE(Anthonian @ Feb 11 2022, 12:59 PM)
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nothing to follow up.
you just given your money to them for free.
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post Feb 20 2022, 08:49 PM

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7 years considered burnn odi

even ktard here after X years no need pay hutang
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QUOTE(wat de....?! @ Feb 20 2022, 08:34 PM)
Not sure if you can really help or just trolling but below is the acc num I could find
5010 1167 1540 & 5010 1167 1072, both maybank
Swift code : mbbemykljob
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Both Agarwoods Original Acc. Have You Make police report For cheating? You Can get ssm search to know the directors details ic number Full address
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QUOTE(Anthonian @ Feb 10 2022, 06:23 PM)
I had invested in Asia Plantation Capital Agarwood trees in Thailand .It was 7 years ago.Until now , I cannot get a reply from them.I emailed their general support but no reply with answer.I called their salesmen and office but no one answer.I guessed I was scammed.
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What the fuck are we supposed to do here for you?
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It is as good as 100% capital investment burned. I read from the farmer groups, they actually can”t find any buyer for the woods. Many farmers eventually just cut down the trees & sell it off as the logs only.

Artificial / imaginary demand.
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QUOTE(Anthonian @ Feb 10 2022, 06:23 PM)
I had invested in Asia Plantation Capital Agarwood trees in Thailand .It was 7 years ago. Until now , I cannot get a reply from them. I emailed their general support but no reply with answer. I called their salesmen and office but no one answer. I guessed I was scammed.
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guess you are NOT alone,...

A total of 180 individuals suffered losses of more than RM21.6 million when investments in an agarwood planting project carried out by international company Asia Plantation Capital (APC) did not materialise, MalaysiaNow can reveal.

Information received shows that the case began as far back as 2011 when the company in question began advertising about investments in an agarwood plantation project

180 fleeced of RM21.6 million after failed agarwood investment in Thailand...3 Mar 2022
https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/180...b?ocid=msedgntp
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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/climatechan...tations-1339646

For APC, the expected outcome, Watts admits, is that further investment in agarwood in northeastern Thailand is now over. The company directly recorded financial losses of US$36 million in 2019/20 and faces major delays in future profitability, putting under direct threat 90 of the company’s 130 Thai plantations that are in Sakon Nakhon.

Macam semua pokok sudah mati
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post Mar 3 2022, 07:50 PM

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Double ur investment. They will reply 1
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post Mar 3 2022, 07:53 PM

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Those fall for such investment scheme...read more newspaper please, not FB guru posts

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 3 2022, 06:28 PM)
guess you are NOT alone,...

A total of 180 individuals suffered losses of more than RM21.6 million when investments in an agarwood planting project carried out by international company Asia Plantation Capital (APC) did not materialise, MalaysiaNow can reveal.

Information received shows that the case began as far back as 2011 when the company in question began advertising about investments in an agarwood plantation project

180 fleeced of RM21.6 million after failed agarwood investment in Thailand...3 Mar 2022
https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/180...b?ocid=msedgntp
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sweat.gif sweat.gif now talking about it "in public" can be accused of ....."defamation and the publication of false and misleading information."

Company behind failed agarwood investment scheme threatens legal action against MalaysiaNow
https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/com...u?ocid=msedgntp

The company behind a purported agarwood investment scheme in Thailand, returns from which which never materialised, has threatened legal action against MalaysiaNow over its coverage of the case, accusing the portal of defamation and the publication of false and misleading information.

In a notice of demand sent to MalaysiaNow by its lawyers, Asia Plantation Capital (APC) also claimed that the article in question, “180 fleeced of RM22.6 million after failed agarwood investment in Thailand”, had been published with the intention to prejudice its right to a fair trial in the investors’ ongoing court action against it.
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post Mar 11 2022, 11:19 AM

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I hope the group will win the case. APC replied they are going to replace the dead trees. I think legally APC they can only replace the dead trees.
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post Mar 11 2022, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 10 2022, 08:43 PM)
sweat.gif  sweat.gif now talking about it "in public" can be accused of  ....."defamation and the publication of false and misleading information."

Company behind failed agarwood investment scheme threatens legal action against MalaysiaNow
https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/com...u?ocid=msedgntp

The company behind a purported agarwood investment scheme in Thailand, returns from which which never materialised, has threatened legal action against MalaysiaNow over its coverage of the case, accusing the portal of defamation and the publication of false and misleading information.

In a notice of demand sent to MalaysiaNow by its lawyers, Asia Plantation Capital (APC) also claimed that the article in question, “180 fleeced of RM22.6 million after failed agarwood investment in Thailand”, had been published with the intention to prejudice its right to a fair trial in the investors’ ongoing court action against it.
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Any idea how to join this group?
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QUOTE(Anthonian @ Mar 11 2022, 11:21 AM)
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you mean the group that is pursuing the case in court?

if YES...not a legal expert, but then i think already cannot join that group already as the details of who and who are suing are in the court....
,...if interested, can seek your lawyer for suggestion...
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Asia Plantation Capital Bhd (APC), the company involved in an agarwood investment scheme in Thailand, recently changed its name to Agarwood Originals Malaysia Bhd, MalaysiaNow can reveal.

Documents from the Companies Commission of Malaysia show that APC changed its name on Dec 23, 2021 after being incorporated in November 2011.
https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/nam...62cc80265a5811c
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Case management was on 31/3 /22.
Anyone have update?.

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QUOTE(Anthonian @ Feb 10 2022, 06:23 PM)
I had invested in Asia Plantation Capital Agarwood trees in Thailand .It was 7 years ago.Until now , I cannot get a reply from them.I emailed their general support but no reply with answer.I called their salesmen and office but no one answer.I guessed I was scammed.
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i am a victim also , if anyupdate kindly please update me , and anyfurther action count me in please.
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QUOTE(Anthonian @ Mar 11 2022, 11:21 AM)
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count me in , for join this group please
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post Apr 26 2022, 11:37 AM

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TS u quite slow.. legal suits by investors was initiated against them since 3 years ago..

they said because the weather and now they propose for you to reinvest correct?
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This amoi awek mix call everyone in my company few years ago.

I googled the potential of agar wood and didn't see much
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count me in , for join this group please
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Count me in also sad.gif
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QUOTE(Anthonian @ Feb 11 2022, 12:59 PM)
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Pretty sure u signed up with some sort of agent/consultant right?
Why not call them and ask?
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Skim Cepat Kaya makes you Cepat Miskin
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post Apr 26 2022, 11:50 AM

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cukur never invest

profit free JW marriot food and aeon voucher rclxm9.gif

my mind when that fella was selling the investment: "niama return so good why need my money to plant tree oh"

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QUOTE(Docile @ Apr 26 2022, 11:39 AM)
Pretty sure u signed up with some sort of agent/consultant right?
Why not call them and ask?
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can't even find the agent/consultant thats the problem
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QUOTE(freddy888 @ Apr 26 2022, 11:50 AM)
can't even find the agent/consultant thats the problem
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I'm sorry but mostly gone case liao sad.gif
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even if win the case, the company going under liquidation
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Nuisance scammer and never think of blood Sweat money of worker....
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any1 invested on Dadvaced Agarwood Solution? they are working with an NGO for 2 years deal. would like to hear your experience if you had invested before in this company
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QUOTE(Anthonian @ Mar 11 2022, 11:21 AM)
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There are now 4 more groups of investor consist of more than 300 investor in the progress of suing the company.
You may contact one of the coordinator through what's app at +60 19-383 5534, miss nikki
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A total of 180 individuals suffered losses of more than RM21.6 million when investments in an agarwood planting project carried out by international company Asia Plantation Capital (APC) did not materialise, MalaysiaNow can reveal.

Information received shows that the case began as far back as 2011 when the company in question began advertising about investments in an agarwood plantation project

180 fleeced of RM21.6 million after failed agarwood investment in Thailand...3 Mar 2022


There is an ongoing court case against the Agarwood company. If you want more information, email me at rani.muthu.nadesan@gmail.com
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Hello. I am new here and looking for help. I think I lost money with APC after speaking to another investor. She recommended I speak to an Asia Claim company. Got back her money on a wine scam. Does anyone have success with this company or is Shirley in this thread that recommended them? I found this media article on them from four years ago. Thanks.

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Are there any genuine agarwood plantation investment?

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QUOTE(susanasue @ Jun 30 2022, 06:03 PM)
Hello. I am new here and looking for help.  I think I lost money with APC after speaking to another investor. She recommended I speak to an Asia Claim company. Got back her money on a wine scam. Does anyone have success with this company or is Shirley in this thread that recommended them? I found this media article on them from four years ago. Thanks.

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Hi Susana, I just saw your post here... I am a Singapore PR working here. My oldest son used this company a few years ago. Was part of a large group of employees unfairly terminated by an F&B conglomerate. The MoM were useless in helping but the group did very well with this litigation company by way of out of court settlement. While I am not experienced enough in this field to recommend them, apparently they are well respected locally. Hope that helps.
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QUOTE(Paul Peters @ Jul 21 2022, 10:56 AM)
Hi Susana, I just saw your post here... I am a Singapore PR working here. My oldest son used this company a few years ago. Was part of a large group of employees unfairly terminated by an F&B conglomerate. The MoM were useless in helping but the group did very well with this litigation company by way of out of court settlement. While I am not experienced enough in this field to recommend them, apparently they are well respected locally. Hope that helps.
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Thank you everyone here. I have registered with Asia Claim no need money. Take comm only. Need to sign NDA to have confidential case info. At long last after years of this scam company taking my money I am confident. I wan these people take everything.
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QUOTE(Anthonian @ Feb 10 2022, 06:23 PM)
I had invested in Asia Plantation Capital Agarwood trees in Thailand .It was 7 years ago.Until now , I cannot get a reply from them.I emailed their general support but no reply with answer.I called their salesmen and office but no one answer.I guessed I was scammed.
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lol. last time i went for an interview that sells these kind of plantation investment thingy. knew it was a scam from my gut feeling and didn't join their scam.

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I scammed their jusco voucher instead when i went to their pitch, and see many stupid ppl listen to them with high hope and greed. Kecian most of them were old folk
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QUOTE(yong mellisa @ Sep 2 2022, 04:02 PM)
Thank you everyone here. I have registered with Asia Claim no need money. Take comm only.  Need to sign NDA to have confidential case info. At long last after years of this scam company taking my money I am confident. I wan these people take everything.
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Dear Mellisa, I am very interested in your experience with Asia Claim. I have invested a substantial sum with Asia Plantation Capital. In fact more than I care to mention. Could you share any more information on the procedure with this company? My husband is at law and has done his due diligence and it seems they are well respected and have a record of rulings in their favor as far back as 2011. Would you be so kind to share what ever you can? I am new here and have no understanding if I can private message you. Thank you in advance.
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QUOTE(yong mellisa @ Sep 2 2022, 04:02 PM)
Thank you everyone here. I have registered with Asia Claim no need money. Take comm only.  Need to sign NDA to have confidential case info. At long last after years of this scam company taking my money I am confident. I wan these people take everything.
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Dear Mellisa, I am very interested in your experience with Asia Claim. I have invested a substantial sum with Asia Plantation Capital. In fact more than I care to mention. Could you share any more information on the procedure with this company? My husband is at law and has done his due diligence and it seems they are well respected and have a record of rulings in their favor as far back as 2011. Would you be so kind to share what ever you can? I am new here and have no understanding if I can private message you. Thank you in advance.
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QUOTE(coyouth @ Sep 2 2022, 04:06 PM)
lol. last time i went for an interview that sells these kind of plantation investment thingy. knew it was a scam from my gut feeling and didn't join their scam.
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I planted my own agarwood trees on my land, with my own workers.

After 15 years, I fell I was cheated ........ by myself.
Hahaha. Just kidding.


Still got the trees though.
The few acres now turned into forest already. Agarwood lampost-sized now.


From my experience, in agarwood plantation, from the seller of sapplings to inoculant, and those asking to JV, 90% minimum, are scammers. The other 7-8% are just not enough knowledge (same knowledge, or less than me, but appear to know better than me).
Still waiting the 1-3% that hopefully really know what they are doing, without intention to cheat.

From all these years, only met 4 guys that honest and knowledgeable.
1 lost contact years ago, 3 died.
Another one, only met online, and honestly advice me remotely without making any profit from me.
And from these 5 honest guys, majority from Sarawak.

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QUOTE(Letstorque5 @ Sep 14 2022, 06:21 PM)
I planted my own agarwood trees on my land, with my own workers.

After 15 years, I fell I was cheated ........ by myself.
Hahaha. Just kidding.
Still got the trees though.
The few acres now turned into forest already. Agarwood lampost-sized now.
From my experience, in agarwood plantation, from the seller of sapplings to inoculant, and those asking to JV, 90% minimum, are scammers. The other 7-8% are just not enough knowledge (same knowledge, or less than me, but appear to know better than me).
Still waiting the 1-3% that hopefully really know what they are doing, without intention to cheat.

From all these years, only met 4 guys that honest and knowledgeable.
1 lost contact years ago, 3 died.
Another one, only met online, and honestly advice me remotely without making any profit from me.
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3 died already? damn, how old are you?
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I planted my own agarwood trees on my land, with my own workers.

After 15 years, I fell I was cheated ........ by myself.
Hahaha. Just kidding.
Still got the trees though.
The few acres now turned into forest already. Agarwood lampost-sized now.
From my experience, in agarwood plantation, from the seller of sapplings to inoculant, and those asking to JV, 90% minimum, are scammers. The other 7-8% are just not enough knowledge (same knowledge, or less than me, but appear to know better than me).
Still waiting the 1-3% that hopefully really know what they are doing, without intention to cheat.

From all these years, only met 4 guys that honest and knowledgeable.
1 lost contact years ago, 3 died.
Another one, only met online, and honestly advice me remotely without making any profit from me.
And from these 5 honest guys, majority from Sarawak.
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Either u outlived the plan to find out it's scam after that.

Or the plan outlived u.
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Slightly more than half the age of life expectancy of average male Malaysian.

1 50-60s.
1 late 40s-early 50s.
1 early 30s.
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Either u outlived the plan to find out it's scam after that.

Or the plan outlived u.
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That plan is not that long term.
Usually start with selling the sappling.
Then selling inoculant. Or provide inoculation service.
Some side income by selling fertilizer.

After inoculation, they will start to keep distance from you. Remove you from group, or they left group.

The scammer try to appear smarter than me.
Talk about plant, trees, agroculture, but I’m a part time farmer, so I know better than them. And I learnt biology os school, it really helps.

Talk about JV, contract and so on, but I took law/contract/legal subjects almost every semester in college.

Talk about middle east client, but I’ve been there many more times than them. And I knew how much the price of oudh in bazaars or malls in middle east.

My appearance just like kampung farmer, so they think can ‘eat’ me.
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Asia Plantation Capital Bhd (APC), the company involved in an agarwood investment scheme in Thailand, recently changed its name to Agarwood Originals Malaysia Bhd, MalaysiaNow can reveal.

Documents from the Companies Commission of Malaysia show that APC changed its name on Dec 23, 2021 after being incorporated in November 2011.
https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/nam...62cc80265a5811c
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Name change for company behind agarwood investment project in Thailand
Asia Plantation Capital Bhd changed its name to Agarwood Originals Malaysia Bhd in December last year

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Asia Plantation Capital Bhd changed its name to Agarwood Originals Malaysia Bhd in December last year
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https://www.capitalpost.com.my/malaysian-agarwood-company-distances-itself-from-rm22mil-scam/

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It has been a long time since I try to get some update on APC.I tried calling but was passed to auto voice reply and asked to contact them by email and the link given .I emailed the link but the mail was returned.
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It has been a long time since I try to get some update on APC.I tried calling but was passed to auto voice reply and asked to contact them by email and the link given .I emailed the link but the mail was returned.
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It has been a long time since I try to get some update on APC.I tried calling but was passed to auto voice reply and asked to contact them by email and the link given .I emailed the link but the mail was returned.
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QUOTE(Letstorque5 @ Sep 14 2022, 06:21 PM)
I planted my own agarwood trees on my land, with my own workers.

After 15 years, I fell I was cheated ........ by myself.
Hahaha. Just kidding.
Still got the trees though.
The few acres now turned into forest already. Agarwood lampost-sized now.
From my experience, in agarwood plantation, from the seller of sapplings to inoculant, and those asking to JV, 90% minimum, are scammers. The other 7-8% are just not enough knowledge (same knowledge, or less than me, but appear to know better than me).
Still waiting the 1-3% that hopefully really know what they are doing, without intention to cheat.

From all these years, only met 4 guys that honest and knowledgeable.
1 lost contact years ago, 3 died.
Another one, only met online, and honestly advice me remotely without making any profit from me.
And from these 5 honest guys, majority from Sarawak.
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Where can I find the seeds/ seedlings to plant in my land?


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I had invested in Asia Plantation Capital Agarwood trees in Thailand .It was 7 years ago.Until now , I cannot get a reply from them.I emailed their general support but no reply with answer.I called their salesmen and office but no one answer.I guessed I was scammed.
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I saw this and wanted to add that my sister and me signed up with Asia Claim. Signed NDA also. Did not pay but had to see demonstration to get free. Give confidence after 7 years that I can get my hard-earned money.
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Why dont plant durian?
Hahaha


Can search online, many nursery still sell sapplings.

Seed, dont recommend. Need extra works.
If want free (crassna, subintegra), come to my kebun in Pahang/Terengganu border during fruiting season. Pick yourself.
Each fruit got 2-3 seeds. Very light. Very hard work to even pick.
That why 1kg of seed they sell for RM6-8k.
And no guarantee to germinate.
The fruit will pop and seed disperse naturally.

Terengganu Forestry Department sell certified A. malacensis sapplings.
15 years ago, only 50sen for 7-10cm sapplings.
But in huge quantities and need to arrange transport yourself from Sg Gawi, Kenyir area.

In nursery in Jerantut, Pahang, or Kelantan, 4-5ft should cost less than RM10.
8ft should cost less than RM16.
Usually A. subintegra (Thailand) or A. Crassna (Vietnam)

This post has been edited by Letstorque5: Nov 17 2022, 05:40 PM
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Why dont plant durian?
Hahaha
Can search online, many nursery still sell sapplings.

Seed, dont recommend. Need extra works.
If want free (crassna, subintegra), come to my kebun in Pahang/Terengganu border during fruiting season. Pick yourself.
Each fruit got 2-3 seeds. Very light. Very hard work to even pick.
That why 1kg of seed they sell for RM6-8k.
And no guarantee to germinate.
The fruit will pop and seed disperse naturally.

Terengganu Forestry Department sell  certified A. malacensis sapplings.
15 years ago, only 50sen for 7-10cm sapplings.
But in huge quantities and need to arrange transport yourself from Sg Gawi, Kenyir area.

In nursery in Jerantut, Pahang, or Kelantan, 4-5ft should cost less than RM10.
8ft should cost less than RM16.
Usually A. subintegra (Thailand) or A. Crassna (Vietnam)
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Planted durian before

Just want to plant agarwood for fun

Your area Perasing or Jabor?

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Nov 17 2022, 06:44 PM)
Planted durian before

Just want to plant agarwood for fun

Your area Perasing or Jabor?
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Spot on. In between Perasing and Jabor.
Actually Jabor, on the Pahang side.
Less than 1km from Jabor LPT Exit/toll.
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I saw this and wanted to add that my sister and me signed up with Asia Claim. Signed NDA also. Did not pay but had to see demonstration to get free. Give confidence after 7 years that I can get my hard-earned money.
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WHAT DEMONSTRATION. TELL ME MORE PLEASE...

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I found this about Asia Claims
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WHAT IS THIS PDF?I DONT WANT TO OPEN THIS NOT TRUSTABLE..
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WHAT IS THIS PDF?I DONT WANT TO OPEN THIS NOT TRUSTABLE..
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Hello Lim, this is the part of a news article about another law firm but the director mentions Asia Claim. Relevant part I paste for you here...

"Speaking to the Director of Legal Alliance Asia, Mr.Robert Kerr whom mentioned, “Well, we couldn’t resist. The first RCI America case was a slam dunk. The second case against RCI Europe was set in our favour from the beginning, but D&P pulled a technicality out of the bag at the last moment. We have no intention of letting that happen again with RCI Asia. But it is only fair to award credit to what the industry knows as the most successful litigation agency in Asia, Asia Claim in Jakarta. We consulted with the Chair Committee whom immediately lent every available resource needed to copy cat their operation. Without them and the incredible power of clandestine investigative style that penetrates unscrupulous organisations in a way that the standard operating procedures of a law firm simply could not achieve I fear we would not have gained the evidence to save more than six thousand victims from financial loss and pressure".


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ok lah ..
but what is the demonstration???
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Planted durian before

Just want to plant agarwood for fun

Your area Perasing or Jabor?
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wads ur land size? was looking to plant belian (very slow growth tree)
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wads ur land size? was looking to plant belian (very slow growth tree)
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I plant new species for fun, want to see my babies grow up from seeds to adults
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ok lah ..
but what is the demonstration???
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Hello Lim, sori my late reply. Buzy at work. My case officer inform me how to get free time with local Asia Claim agent. Got the registration and notorization no cost. Just listen to their product demonstration. Ok la. Smile smile say thanks and get free. Good for me as long as I dint have to pay to get back my hard-earned money.
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Better you pay my friend dad to plant you a hard wood seedling in his land.
Come back in 30years.
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guess you are NOT alone,...

A total of 180 individuals suffered losses of more than RM21.6 million when investments in an agarwood planting project carried out by international company Asia Plantation Capital (APC) did not materialise, MalaysiaNow can reveal.

Information received shows that the case began as far back as 2011 when the company in question began advertising about investments in an agarwood plantation project

180 fleeced of RM21.6 million after failed agarwood investment in Thailand...3 Mar 2022
https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/180...b?ocid=msedgntp
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damn, on average, each spent 180k.

expensive lesson.
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Saya buat pendaftaran percuma di Singapore. Saya sangka mereka tahu apa yang mereka
buat dan saya percaya. Lepas itu, saya tahu macam mana APC tipu hasil kerja keras saya dan
macam mana mereka dapatkan informasi peribadi saya. Amaran kepada semua. Kepada
semua yang sangka invest ke Jardine smith tu bagus, fikir kembali. Sekarang saya
mempunyai bukti yang mereka adalah SCAMMER.
Saya sarankan Asia Claim. Tidak perlu buat bayaran seperti dijanjikan. Mereka jelaskan
kepada saya dalam Bahasa layman cara untuk periksa scams. Saya berasa lebih yakin dan
pasti tidak akan ditipu lagi. Sekarang, saya nak duit saya kembali.
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A total of 180 individuals suffered losses of more than RM21.6 million when investments in an agarwood planting project carried out by international company Asia Plantation Capital (APC) did not materialise, MalaysiaNow can reveal.

Information received shows that the case began as far back as 2011 when the company in question began advertising about investments in an agarwood plantation project

180 fleeced of RM21.6 million after failed agarwood investment in Thailand...3 Mar 2022
There is an ongoing court case against the Agarwood company.  If you want more information, email me at rani.muthu.nadesan@gmail.com
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I represent a group of investors from Singapore. We have done our due diligence. It is a world wide scam with officers in every country. This Agarwood scam needs to be investigated by Interpol.

Many lawyers have failed because of Arbitration clause and jurisdiction must be in Singapore. Very expensive to fight this case here. Now, we have heard many good things about success things with the law firm Hakem Arabi & Associates.

You may contact Rani Muthu for further details on how to proceed: rani.muthu.nadesan@gmail.com
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QUOTE(Anthonian @ Feb 10 2022, 06:23 PM)
I had invested in Asia Plantation Capital Agarwood trees in Thailand .It was 7 years ago.Until now , I cannot get a reply from them.I emailed their general support but no reply with answer.I called their salesmen and office but no one answer.I guessed I was scammed.
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Hi, you may email to me at rani.muthu.nadesan@gmail.com
We are representing a good number of investors and we have filed the matter in court. It is a worldwide scam and the only way to try to get your money is to go to court. The relevant parties are now trying to trace the assets of APC.
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Real plantation business comes with unattractive return.

Promising u sky high? No comment.
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QUOTE(RaniMuthu @ Jan 20 2023, 09:57 PM)
Hi, you may email to me at rani.muthu.nadesan@gmail.com
We are representing a good number of investors and we have filed the matter in court. It is a worldwide scam and the only way to try to get your money is to go to court. The relevant parties are now trying to trace the assets of APC.
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Good afternoon Rani,

I've been reading these threads on APC for a while now after my sister became a victim. So I just thought I'd respectfully question your statement.. why do you say, "the only way to get your money is in court"?

I was a paralegal in a local firm for many years and I simply cannot agree with you. Well yes, if the firm in question was legitimate from the start and had built up assets along the way. But as everyone involved has now learned to their disappointment, APC was fraudulent from the beginning. Set up with stolen money from a landbank fraud in the UK. Ask any respecting lawyer that is experienced in litigation or torte law the following question... "do fraudulent companies acquire assets and / or leave capital in the company for the victims to sue to get it back at the end."? The answer is ALWAYS NO.

Put simply... If fraudsters are smart enough to set up a global operation so elaborate to fool so many people, you think they are unintelligent enough to leave the stolen money as assets in the business? Again the answer is NO.

So I advise a little caution building up everyone's hopes with civil legal action in court. What will almost certainly happen...
1. An award in the favor of complainants maybe. lets assume so. What's next then...
2. The company's official paperwork ie statements of accounts, balance sheets, P&L's will all show a loss.
3. The court will then turn to the directors to repay a sum equivalent to the start up capital.
4. The directors will declare bankruptcy.
5. As the company's debts are limited to its corporate asset, the only person that makes any money in these cases are the lawyers.

If Hakem Arabi & Assoc or HAA as they are known in the business are so confident then ask them to switch to Contingent Law and offer no billing if they do not get the cash and ... ONLY TAKE A PERCENTAGE OF THE CASH RECEIVED. That's more fair ..take a portion less than the sum the victims lost and directly tied to the amount the victim receives. When they refuse then ask yourself why?

As far as the law firm's concerned, you paid them to get a ruling. Once they do, it's down to a liquidator, SOMEONE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE PAID to sell the non-existing assets to get money back. ALSO NOTE THAT LIQUIDATORS HAVE FIRST RIGHT TO CHARGE THEIR FEES FROM THE RECOVERED MONIES IF THERE EVER IS ANY. THEY HAVE, 'THE RIGHT OF FIRST CHARGE'. In other words, their bill comes before you getting any thing at all. If there's not enough left to pay the victims well that's just tough.

END RESULT: The lawyer gets paid by victims, the liquidator gets paid by victims when there's little to no assets recovered. And the victims.. what do they get... the chance to spend forever on a creditors list. And in many times, the legal bill to get that far exceeds any amount ever recovered. In fact if you ask the lawyers.., you can guarantee the law firm hasn't investigated at all what the company's worth is. Just happy to bill you to pursue to judgement.

And as I told my sister... paying up front and getting no money back is EXACTLY what you did with APC. Hiring a lawyer to attack a fraudulent company in civil court is doing exactly the same with more hard earned money.

Something for the smart that like a balanced viewpoint should consider.





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QUOTE(milla lim @ Jan 25 2023, 04:17 PM)
Good afternoon Rani,

I've been reading these threads on APC for a while now after my sister became a victim. So I just thought I'd respectfully question your statement.. why do you say, "the only way to get your money is in court"?

I was a paralegal in a local firm for many years and I simply cannot agree with you. Well yes, if the firm in question was legitimate from the start and had built up assets along the way. But as everyone involved has now learned to their disappointment, APC was fraudulent from the beginning. Set up with stolen money from a landbank fraud in the UK. Ask any respecting lawyer that is experienced in litigation or torte law the following question... "do fraudulent companies acquire assets and / or leave capital in the company for the victims to sue to get it back at the end."? The answer is ALWAYS NO.

Put simply... If fraudsters are smart enough to set up a global operation so elaborate to fool so many people, you think they are unintelligent enough to leave the stolen money as assets in the business? Again the answer is NO.

So I advise a little caution building up everyone's hopes with civil legal action in court. What will almost certainly happen...
1. An award in the favor of complainants maybe. lets assume so. What's next then...
2. The company's official paperwork ie statements of accounts, balance sheets, P&L's will all show a loss.
3. The court will then turn to the directors to repay a sum equivalent to the start up capital.
4. The directors will declare bankruptcy.
5. As the company's debts are limited to its corporate asset, the only person that makes any money in these cases are the lawyers.

If Hakem Arabi & Assoc or HAA as they are known in the business are so confident then ask them to switch to Contingent Law and offer no billing if they do not get the cash and ... ONLY TAKE A PERCENTAGE OF THE CASH RECEIVED. That's more fair ..take a portion less than the sum the victims lost and directly tied to the amount the victim receives. When they refuse then ask yourself why?

As far as the law firm's concerned, you paid them to get a ruling. Once they do, it's down to a liquidator, SOMEONE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE PAID to sell the non-existing assets to get money back. ALSO NOTE THAT LIQUIDATORS HAVE FIRST RIGHT TO CHARGE THEIR FEES FROM THE RECOVERED MONIES IF THERE EVER IS ANY. THEY HAVE, 'THE RIGHT OF FIRST CHARGE'. In other words, their bill comes before you getting any thing at all. If there's not enough left to pay the victims well that's just tough.

END RESULT:  The lawyer gets paid by victims, the liquidator gets paid by victims when there's little to no assets recovered. And the victims.. what do they get... the chance to spend forever on a creditors list. And in many times, the legal bill to get that far exceeds any amount ever recovered. In fact if you ask the lawyers.., you can guarantee the law firm hasn't investigated at all what the company's worth is. Just happy to bill you to pursue to judgement. 

And as I told my sister... paying up front and getting no money back is EXACTLY what you did with APC. Hiring a lawyer to attack a fraudulent company in civil court is doing exactly the same with more hard earned money.

Something for the smart that like a balanced viewpoint should consider.
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Dear Milla,

As you rightly pointed out, APC was a scam from the start. Investors had believed a scam and invested thousands of dollars/ringgit, and you now expect the lawyers to do their work on contingency basis. It is a worldwide scam and it was only after we brought our legal work to the media, we now have other litigants worldwide approaching us to set up a committee to trace the assets, worldwide. Thus, it is not a simple litigation process.
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I had invested in Asia Plantation Capital Agarwood trees in Thailand .It was 7 years ago.Until now , I cannot get a reply from them.I emailed their general support but no reply with answer.I called their salesmen and office but no one answer.I guessed I was scammed.
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QUOTE(RaniMuthu @ Jan 25 2023, 11:03 PM)
Dear Milla,

As you rightly pointed out, APC was a scam from the start. Investors had believed a scam and invested thousands of dollars/ringgit, and you now expect the lawyers to do their work on contingency basis. It is a worldwide scam and it was only after we brought our legal work to the media, we now have other litigants worldwide approaching us to set up a committee to trace the assets, worldwide. Thus, it is not a simple litigation process.
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Good afternoon Madam Rani,

I thought I'd reply to the brief message you left for me. And thank you for doing so. Please excuse my late reply, I have been out stationed.

Lets address your point...

There are numerous litigations companies, legal organizations and law firms that operate Contingent Law in cases that cross jurisdictions. Multiple jurisdictions in fact. And that is because whether a case is in one country or more than one country has completely no bearing on if a law firm is prepared to offer a contingent fee (no win no fee) basis of payment. My old law firm teamed up on many occasions with a specialist in cross boarder contingent law, Legal Alliance Asia. Here in this thread, people are using an even larger firm called Asia Claim in exactly this APC case on a no win no fee basis. Which clearly demonstrates your point is invalid. It can happen, does happen and will continue to.

In any case, APC was not global. That was a farce. APC had operations only in Malaysia and Singapore.

The bottom line for a law firm is the same as any business. How much money is in it for the firm? If the firm is confident there is money to be claimed and they can agree a percentage of that money that far exceeds the fee they would charge up front, they will not wait to be asked, they will offer a contingent fee. Its more money. Its business common sense.

If a law firm is not confident there is money to be had, they will not. There could be various reasons for this...

1) they are not confident of getting a favorable ruling.
2) as in this case, the presumption that a company is smart enough to defraud such a large sum, but foolish enough to invest in assets or leave as liquid cash in a company bank is non sensible.
You are more than within your rights to hope that. But I promise you Rani, lawyers are much more pragmatic with there business calculations.
3) fee generation law. A slang term used by lawyers whom are not confident they can achieve the outcome their clients are hoping for but will take the case because they are being paid to. Win or loose.

Mentioning no law firms here but if there are two hundred people in a group (for example) paying 1000 Ringgit per year to the lawyer (for example). Then the law firm achieves billing capability of 200 x 1000 = 200,000 RM per year for a couple of appearances by one lawyer, some small disbursements fees and the secretaries time to email the group here and there.

There is one case against APC in Singapore for five years. Still no money has been paid to the complainants. If my example I give above which is an APC litigation group known to me, the lawyer will collect ONE MILLION RINGGIT FOR NOT GETTING THEIR CLEINTS A SINGLE RINGGIT.

WHAT GREAT WORK FOR THE FIRM..NOT SO GREAT FOR THE VICTIMS.

And why will it almost certainly work out that way if you go via the standard court procedure? Because as mentioned, the lawyers job is ONLY to get the ruling. He is not a debt recovery agent.
The liquidators have limited powers of inspection. Once the monies have been misappropriated from the business like a directors loan for example, or a false joint venture agreement (which is a common way to drain money). The liquidator has the power to search and cease from the suspicious parties only. Once the monies hit the third party accounts that are not proven people of interest in a fraudulent case, their powers of inspection cease. I know that. You think your lawyers don't? You think the APC masterminds don't? Of course they do.

People that have been fraudulently stolen from should consider a specialist in the field of dealing with white collar criminals. Not general law firms that may have done a divorce or a property conveyance just before. Then pay them only to conduct a shallow investigation to determine if they would offer NO WIN NO FEE BILLING. Let their decision to offer the contingent billing scheme be the real indication of their confidence.

As mentioned, we used Legal Alliance Asia. Others here use Asia Claim. There are others.

Finally, this is not meant to rain on anyone's parade. But just to keep matters and expectations real. And also of course to use my many years of experience to help hard working people that may have lost their life savings to these kinds of companies.











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QUOTE(Calvein Ong @ Jan 20 2023, 12:21 PM)
I represent a group of investors from Singapore. We have done our due diligence. It is a world wide scam with officers in every country. This Agarwood scam needs to be investigated by Interpol.

Many lawyers have failed because of Arbitration clause and jurisdiction must be in Singapore. Very expensive to fight this case here. Now, we have heard many good things about success things with the law firm Hakem Arabi & Associates.

You may contact Rani Muthu for further details on how to proceed: rani.muthu.nadesan@gmail.com

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QUOTE(RaniMuthu @ Jan 20 2023, 09:57 PM)
Hi, you may email to me at rani.muthu.nadesan@gmail.com
We are representing a good number of investors and we have filed the matter in court. It is a worldwide scam and the only way to try to get your money is to go to court. The relevant parties are now trying to trace the assets of APC.
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QUOTE(RaniMuthu @ Jan 26 2023, 04:16 PM)
Hi, anyone bought apartments at L'Marq Semenyih.  It is now abandoned.

If you are a purchaser or you know of anyone who purchased, please drop me an email at rani.muthu.nadesan@gmail.com.

Thank you. [B][SIZE=7][FONT=Arial]
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QUOTE(RaniMuthu @ May 10 2022, 01:12 PM)
Hi, the developer has applied to court for voluntary winding up and they will name a liquidator of their choice. Creditors mainly are their own bunch of associated companies. Only buyers who have sued them are in the list of creditors. So, for those who have not sued them will be left with nothing. We are urgently looking for buyers who have not sued the developer to form a group on our own. Please drop a whatsapp message to this number urgently. 0125870828 Kevin. We have a nominated lawyer who is willing to conduct a free zoom session to share the legal prospects against the developer.  Please act fast before it is too late. Please share this message with your other co buyers too.
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QUOTE(milla lim @ Mar 9 2023, 02:54 PM)
Good afternoon Madam Rani,

I thought I'd reply to the brief message you left for me. And thank you for doing so. Please excuse my late reply, I have been out stationed.

Lets address your point...

There are numerous litigations companies, legal organizations and law firms that operate Contingent Law in cases that cross jurisdictions. Multiple jurisdictions in fact. And that is because whether a case is in one country or more than one country has completely no bearing on if a law firm is prepared to offer a contingent fee (no win no fee) basis of payment. My old law firm teamed up on many occasions with a specialist in cross boarder contingent law, Legal Alliance Asia. Here in this thread, people are using an even larger firm called Asia Claim in exactly this APC case on a no win no fee basis. Which clearly demonstrates your point is invalid. It can happen, does happen and will continue to.

In any case, APC was not global. That was a farce. APC had operations only in Malaysia and Singapore.

The bottom line for a law firm is the same as any business. How much money is in it for the firm? If the firm is confident there is money to be claimed and they can agree a percentage of that money that far exceeds the fee they would charge up front, they will not wait to be asked, they will offer a contingent fee. Its more money. Its business common sense. 

If a law firm is not confident there is money to be had, they will not. There could be various reasons for this...

1) they are not confident of getting a favorable ruling.
2) as in this case, the presumption that a company is smart enough to defraud such a large sum, but foolish enough to invest in assets or leave as liquid cash in a company bank is non sensible.
    You are more than within your rights to hope that. But I promise you Rani, lawyers are much more pragmatic with there business calculations.
3) fee generation law. A slang term used by lawyers whom are not confident they can achieve the outcome their clients are hoping for but will take the case because they are being paid to. Win or loose. 

Mentioning no law firms here but if there are two hundred people in a group (for example) paying 1000 Ringgit per year to the lawyer (for example). Then the law firm achieves billing capability of 200 x 1000 = 200,000 RM per year for a couple of appearances by one lawyer, some small disbursements fees and the secretaries time to email the group here and there.

There is one case against APC in Singapore for five years. Still no money has been paid to the complainants. If my example I give above which is an APC litigation group known to me, the lawyer will collect ONE MILLION RINGGIT FOR NOT GETTING THEIR CLEINTS A SINGLE RINGGIT.

WHAT GREAT WORK FOR THE FIRM..NOT SO GREAT FOR THE VICTIMS.

And why will it almost certainly work out that way if you go via the standard court procedure? Because as mentioned, the lawyers job is ONLY to get the ruling. He is not a debt recovery agent.
The liquidators have limited powers of inspection. Once the monies have been misappropriated from the business like a directors loan for example, or a false joint venture agreement (which is a common way to drain money). The liquidator has the power to search and cease from the suspicious parties only. Once the monies hit the third party accounts that are not proven people of interest in a fraudulent case, their powers of inspection cease. I know that. You think your lawyers don't? You think the APC masterminds don't? Of course they do.

People that have been fraudulently stolen from should consider a specialist in the field of dealing with white collar criminals. Not general law firms that may have done a divorce or a property conveyance just before. Then pay them only to conduct a shallow investigation to determine if they would offer NO WIN NO FEE BILLING. Let their decision to offer the contingent billing scheme be the real indication of their confidence.

As mentioned, we used Legal Alliance Asia. Others here use Asia Claim. There are others.

Finally, this is not meant to rain on anyone's parade. But just to keep matters and expectations real. And also of course to use my many years of experience to help hard working people that may have lost their life savings to these kinds of companies.
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Qin ai de Milla , Wo shi yi zhi zhai guan zhu ni de post ni de zhi shi rang wo hen you xinxin qu zhu ce ASIA CLAIM ,zhe chi hen hao de ti yan . wo hao bu hua yi ta men zhi dao ta men zhai zhuo shen me . wo di yi chi jue de wo you ji hui na hui wo de xinku zhuang lai de qian

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Thanx to Milla Lim, here gave me confidence. OK. So been to this Asia Clam company in Singapore. Can tell how. Have to answer questionair first then can qualify. Only after can visit. Claims people vry good. Have many papers to show how it work and can help for compensation. Now i talk about it with my family i know my family member get help before for too. Can do well like him i will be very happy
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QUOTE(wai ping @ Jun 12 2023, 06:05 PM)
Thanx to Milla Lim, here gave me confidence. OK. So been to this Asia Clam company in Singapore. Can tell how. Have to answer questionair first then can qualify. Only after can visit. Claims people vry good. Have many papers to show how it work and can help for compensation. Now i talk about it with my family i know my family member get help before for too. Can do well like him i will be very happy
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You are welcome Wai Ping. I am glad to have been a small help. However, I must bear honest testimony to the fact that personally I have never had any experience in dealing with Assia Claim or their European counterpart. Having said that, their reputation is second to none in their industry. May I wish you the best of luck.

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QUOTE(wai ping @ Jun 12 2023, 06:05 PM)
Thanx to Milla Lim, here gave me confidence. OK. So been to this Asia Clam company in Singapore. Can tell how. Have to answer questionair first then can qualify. Only after can visit. Claims people vry good. Have many papers to show how it work and can help for compensation. Now i talk about it with my family i know my family member get help before for too. Can do well like him i will be very happy
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Hi Wai Ping, do you have any updates regarding your experience with Asia Claim? Did they bear the cost of your travel to Singapore like they promised? Appreciate if you could share more in the details.
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QUOTE(louislai83 @ Feb 26 2024, 05:29 PM)
Hi Wai Ping, do you have any updates regarding your experience with Asia Claim? Did they bear the cost of your travel to Singapore like they promised? Appreciate if you could share more in the details.
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QUOTE(louislai83 @ Feb 26 2024, 05:29 PM)
Hi Wai Ping, do you have any updates regarding your experience with Asia Claim? Did they bear the cost of your travel to Singapore like they promised? Appreciate if you could share more in the details.
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Sori Louis, just saw your message here. All ok. Been updated. Also had free advice on other problem so can help there too. Now that problem solved with mediation. If I know this company before can save me money.
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Hi to all, i have recently received a call from Asia Claim. Just to check , any received updates from them since some have join them since 2022. Wonder if is it worth spending to Singapore for that purpose which can costs about RM 3000.00 (estimated) and is it really working ? Because I am a retired man with no more income.
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BTW this topic has been off for quite some time. Probably some have new information. And hopefully it is good news.
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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Feb 10 2022, 06:34 PM)
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Did anyone get an update from Asia Claim
I went to their offices and listened through their explanations.
Signed an NDA and am not allowed to provide details of my experience
I will say that, I am not fully convinced because I was made to feel that I'm unable to be made a priority claimant as I refused to invest in their scheme. Again I can't disclose more.
I paid for my own stay and travel
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the agarwood has becum agar2 oredi
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Did anyone get an update from Asia Claim
I went to their offices and listened through their explanations.
Signed an NDA and am not allowed to provide details of my experience
I will say that, I am not fully convinced because I was made to feel that I'm unable to be made a priority claimant as I refused to invest in their scheme. Again I can't disclose more.
I paid for my own stay and travel
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Bro, is this Asia Claim thingy have office in Singapore? All I know is there is lady named Nancy call me up and arrange to meet up at this location where she mentioned is the agent office. I'm abit skeptical and would like to think they could be another scam. Kindly advise.

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QUOTE(sckoong @ Nov 25 2024, 10:26 PM)
Bro, is this Asia Claim thingy have office in Singapore? All I know is there is lady named Nancy call me up and arrange to meet up at this location where she mentioned is the agent office. I'm abit skeptical and would like to think they could be another scam. Kindly advise.

Paramount Strategies Pte. Ltd.
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Good afternoon SC Khoong, I saw your request for clarification so I thought I might offer my experience if I may? My law firm uses fraud investigators as I have mentioned here before. While I have not contracted Asia Claim LLC personally but a larger entity of the same ilk named Legal Alliance Asia, I can confirm they are a legitimate business whom have some notable recorded successes. We can also note there are substantial entries here confirming successful outcomes. Personally I do not own an alleged investment with this plantation company but my sister does. She has registered with Asia Claim and has in her opinion has been served well to date with something approximating twenty updates since she contracted Asia Claim to represent her.

From what I understand from my sister there are senior staff involved in the investigation on hand and available to answer investor questions but please do not quote me on that as it is purely hearsay but from my sister it is at least a reliable source of information. I have checked for her and Asia Claim is officially registered and licensed with ACRA (our SSM) in the Republic of Singapore as well as with Companies House in the UNITED KINGDOM WHERE THIER FILLINGS SHOW A FULLY FLEDGED CLAIM LISENCE. Additionally to answer your concern, Fraud Investigators are not known to commit crime's against their clients. That's task of sales companies what we have addressed many times over the years in the Sessions, State and High Courts of Kuala Lumpur.
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QUOTE(sckoong @ Nov 25 2024, 10:26 PM)
Bro, is this Asia Claim thingy have office in Singapore? All I know is there is lady named Nancy call me up and arrange to meet up at this location where she mentioned is the agent office. I'm abit skeptical and would like to think they could be another scam. Kindly advise.

Paramount Strategies Pte. Ltd.
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how is the situation with asia claim?
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QUOTE(hendre @ Jul 31 2025, 03:31 PM)
how is the situation with asia claim?
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Saw your msg Hendre.
Looks like we doing good.
I get an email from their office getting us to be ready to go to negotiations.
I see if I can add a picture of it here.
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QUOTE(wai ping @ Aug 6 2025, 04:01 PM)
Saw your msg Hendre.
Looks like we doing good.
I get an email from their office getting us to be ready to go to negotiations.
I see if I can add a picture of it here.
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they said that they will pay for our flight tickets when we go to singapore to sign the agreement. Have you been to singapore to sign it and if so have they paid you for the flight? And how legit are they?
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QUOTE(hendre @ Aug 13 2025, 07:23 AM)
they said that they will pay for our flight tickets when we go to singapore to sign the agreement. Have you been to singapore to sign it and if so have they paid you for the flight? And how legit are they?
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Hi Hendre. I don’t know if they pay travel bcs I was staying with my son who works in Singapore so I no need to travel.
Yes legit. My family use before. I said that already.
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QUOTE(wai ping @ Aug 18 2025, 05:45 PM)
Hi Hendre. I don’t know if they pay travel bcs I was staying with my son who works in Singapore so I no need to travel.
Yes legit. My family use before. I said that already.
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oh I seee. How much were they able to get back? and how long did it took them
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QUOTE(hendre @ Aug 19 2025, 06:49 PM)
oh I seee. How much were they able to get back? and how long did it took them
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I can show you. I get my money back and pay fee. But not in a group this is private work for my family. Took long time nearly one year.
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QUOTE(milla lim @ Nov 28 2024, 05:25 PM)
Good afternoon SC Khoong, I saw your request for clarification so I thought I might offer my experience if I may? My law firm uses fraud investigators as I have mentioned here before. While I have not contracted Asia Claim LLC personally but a larger entity of the same ilk named Legal Alliance Asia, I can confirm they are a legitimate business whom have some notable recorded successes. We can also note there are substantial entries here confirming successful outcomes. Personally I do not own an alleged investment with this plantation company but my sister does. She has registered with Asia Claim and has in her opinion has been served well to date with something approximating twenty updates since she contracted Asia Claim to represent her.

From what I understand from my sister there are senior staff involved in the investigation on hand and available to answer investor questions but please do not quote me on that as it is purely hearsay but from my sister it is at least a reliable source of information. I have checked for her and Asia Claim is officially registered and licensed with ACRA (our SSM) in the Republic of Singapore as well as with Companies House in the UNITED KINGDOM WHERE THIER FILLINGS SHOW A FULLY FLEDGED CLAIM LISENCE. Additionally to answer your concern, Fraud Investigators are not known to commit crime's against their clients. That's task of sales companies what we have addressed many times over the years in the Sessions, State and High Courts of Kuala Lumpur.
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Hi milla where did you find that asia claim is licensed with ACRA. I cant seem to find it
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QUOTE(hendre @ Aug 22 2025, 06:30 AM)
Hi milla where did you find that asia claim is licensed with ACRA. I cant seem to find it
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Come here to check if all got the email form Asia claim
for next step and saw yes and saw your question Hendre.
My husband is in shipping claims and Asia Claim had a business for that many years ago in Singapore. Not sure exactly what but their website is:
www.asiaclaimsoffice.com
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Avoid all share capital investments. Almost 100% will lose money.
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How abt durian capital? Scam also?
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QUOTE(Mattrock @ Aug 25 2025, 05:38 PM)
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Good afternoon Mr Mattock sir,

Checking back in here to help a friend. I saw your comment. Who can blame any person loosing money with APC to feel like you do.

However, for the sake of not misinforming the public we should replace emotion with fact.

Private equity is an established and regulated part of the financial sector. High net worth investors will target 40% of their income as PE-Returns. Globally, 18,000 Private Equity firms hold on profit for their clients at any one time funds equivalent to half the GDP of Europe. Most of my clients invest in overseas PE companies. Higher security. Then again most smart Malaysians put their money overseas now days. Especially with this new governments stealth tax obsession.

But experienced investors don’t buy hype from sales companies. No different to the stock market. Successful investors understand they are buying businesses, like a partnership. I wonder how many people that bought APC checked who was running the business, how much capital the company started with, was it licensed, was the money paid into trust? If it wasn’t, should it have been? Does the company have the go-market strategy? Etc etc.. There are financial metrics forming the pillars of Private Equity performance. My sister didn’t check these metrics, did you Mattock? Clearly not I would humbly assume otherwise you would not have made your purchase.

So yes, buy hype from direct sales companies you’ll loose maybe to the degree you quote. Buy value investments from Private Equity companies and you won’t. It’s really no more complicated than that. Sales companies sell products for profit. That profit comes from you the buyer. Private Equity makes money on money. Not the same. Just like Einstein… he said, “the most obvious answer is usually the right one” and he was a petty smart man. Hope that helps?



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