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Kenyataan Media
27 Januari 2022

MENGAPA PNB, KHAZANAH, DAN KWSP BERI PINJAMAN KEPADA SYARIKAT PERJUDIAN?

Saya ikuti pendedahan terkait tiga bank Malaysia, Malayan Banking Berhad (Maybank), Kumpulan CIMB Berhad dan RHB Bank Berhad yang dijangka mengalami kerugian berbilion ringgit ekoran Genting Hong Kong yang diisytihar muflis.

Menurut laporan media, ketiga-tiga bank tersebut telah memberi pinjaman tanpa jaminan berjumlah AS$600 juta (RM2.51 bilion).

Saya mendesak Menteri Kewangan untuk segera menjawab persoalan mengapakah bank-bank ini dibenar memberi pinjaman tanpa jaminan kepada Genting Hong Kong.

Ini adalah kerana kerajaan melalui Permodalan Nasional Berhad (PNB), Khazanah, dan Kumpulan Wang Simpanan Pekerja (KWSP) adalah pemegang saham terbesar dalam ketiga-tiga bank itu.

Bagaimana pinjaman tanpa jaminan kepada syarikat perjudian ini boleh diberi dengan sebegitu mudah?

Walaupun syarikat itu berdaftar di Hong Kong, pemiliknya adalah ahli perniagaan Malaysia yang sekurang-kurangnya perlu diminta jaminan peribadi atau simpanannya dalam syarikat yang dimilikinya di Malaysia.

Menteri Kewangan juga dituntut menjelaskan bagaimana pinjaman RM2.51 billion ini akan dibayar oleh Genting Hong Kong yang sudah muflis.

Bagi saya, penjelasan ini perlu disegerakan bagi mengelak skandal Bumiputra Malaysia Finance (BMF) Hong Kong berulang.

ANWAR IBRAHIM

he doenst have the number

but he is right

(scratch that) bank give loan to private company need shareholder's approval??



This post has been edited by jmas: Jan 27 2022, 05:08 PM

diam la bang nuar

mengapakah bank-bank ini dibenar memberi pinjaman tanpa jaminan kepada Genting Hong Kong.

u ask the bank lor....

That why cimb acc negative value?

private bank ada shareolder?
your logic really astounding haha

If everything need security, then how to do business? In business surely there is risk.

At least the banks ask Genting HK to pay their loan. Back in the days, there was a running joke that in Malaysia, certain connected segment of society borrow money don't have to pay back.

Brapa outstanding loan amount?

High risk high return

low risk just follow messiah...eh

Bagi saya, penjelasan ini perlu disegerakan bagi mengelak skandal Bumiputra Malaysia Finance (BMF) Hong Kong berulang.



lmaooooooooooooooooooo

Saman Lim Kok Thay sampai dia muflis

my understanding of the company thing is bad, I know, but I think my question still valid

do banks need to get their major shareholder to agree before giving out loans?

it definitely can be questioned.

it almost certainly can be investigated too.


Because this is not logical.

Bank should protect their interest. Not Genting's....

unless there is a special arrangement, due to special "arrangement", between special VIPss.

lol bodoh bagi unsecured loan
now makan pisang

???

You mean

Got company out there that doesnt have any shareholder??

private sector banks, like Maybank RHB, was public listed.... sure got shareholder lah..

those "public" banks are owned by khazanah, pnb and whoever own the biggest shares of them.
meaning, they are not private.

diam la bang nuar

1. All these 3 banks is not a straight forward private banks because major shareholder are Epf and sovereign fund. The only 2 private local bank (so call) are PBB and HLB only, with major stake owned by individual or individual controlling company/holding. And they are the last and only 2 in Malaysia to able to own banks substantial shares under individual name

2. It is very uncommon to require shareholder approval for loan, considering giving out loan is the bank day to day operation. However, giving unsecured loan up to billion may require board approval, depending on how they structure their board resolution

This post has been edited by ju146: Jan 27 2022, 05:15 PM

Kate bank do business, not CHARITY. Why need to gip muka to Genting HK & its parent company?

Gambling lah. Why? No dare?

funny question, bank give loan, what to do with gov?

Just ask the Bank CEO on their Facebook. How many public listed companies have unsecured loans with the bank? If they reply many, then it's fine.

Bank has their own risk appetite, maybe Genting boss agree to deposit few billions in those bank and secured loan to Genting Malaysia. U will never know what is the arrangement in the dark except for the top management.

inb4 give other bank also will do the same, 2x5

so it's ok for pnb / epf etc to do so

Numberman is trying to link GLC Bank with Genting, indirectly say government kasi loan to Genting and fishing for conservative malaysia votes in upcoming Johor PRN

In summary, PKR is getting more conservative rather than multiracial recently. Even the Timah issue also got one PKR MP echo the idea.

unsecured loan with personal director guarantee is it?

I think without Lim family guarantee because Genting HK is a listed entity at HKSE.

Normally Bank will incline to give out unsecured loan to listed company because of the strict rules and regulation, but for this case, Bank has been given the loan before covid, after covid with the cruise business, Bank confirm will not give loan punya.

So which are the best bank$ to keep our hard earned 250k pidm inn?

the only unsecured i can think of, that passes the credit committee .. should be revolving credit / standby facilities.

if that's tapped out d good luck je lah, time to join the big line of creditors getting haircut, tony style

Private company suka hati they all la.

EPF and PNB can always sell the shares if they don't think it's well run ma.

Anwar never ask why EPF bought into messiahword nbdre company Serba Dinamik and lost tons of money?

Well no choice, u have Genting group business on hand to juggle, takkan because of 200mil loan let go and miss out billions of deposit and secured loan from Genting Bhd and Genting Malaysia.

Bank has to consider at different aspect, maybe they can stomach the 200mil loan from the beginning.

All banks can tolerate a certain percentage of non performing loans. That's why banks must be allowed to make profits.

Don't every day go shout bank is tamak, untung berbillion ringgit. Then ask banks to do charity.

If banks were to stop giving out loans, our economy will collapse.

LKT haosiao go change the name of Star Cruises to Genting HK, thinking the name Genting more prestigious. This is coming back to bite him as politicians associate Genting = Gambling. In reality they are just Cruise ship operator like royal carribean and carnival.

Covid 19 is bad enough for cruise ships, more haosiao is LKT went on buying shipyard operator Werften Germany which eventually brought down the company cashflow.

This post has been edited by ikanbilis: Jan 27 2022, 05:38 PM

Eh2 nuar ni kang

I was in Resort World Las Vegas recently. They have a food court with Singapore food. Yes, Singapore food with brands from Singapore.

The way our politicians behave, sooner or later successful local companies will abandon the country.

Unsecure loans means higher interest rate la since default risk is higher and no collateral

The loan usd600m was given out in 2012. Of course a big portion plus interest has been paid over the 10 year period. Politicians saying these 3 banks lost the whole 600million dont know the whole truth just tembak only.

PKR is like evening party liao...

betul ke number tu

Unsecured loan - 15% annual interest (Player)

Secured loan - 6% annual interest (Banker)

for example

So Bank pun main casino, bet on unsecured loan (Player)

Manatau flip the card, winner adalah (Banker) , pulak

This post has been edited by Clement1001: Jan 27 2022, 06:11 PM

So numberman Sekarang pakar pembankan juga?

biar betul!

he is right, but then again it's private bank...he bising also no use

You Bodo? Whatever decision made by bod Must be in the interest of the shareholder and protect them. Not the Third party aka genting🤭 that is Why they are called PUBLIC LISTED COMPANY 🤣🤣🤣

private bank ada shareolder? ADA.... most are listed in stock exchange or are private limited companies unless sole owner.

Private company? Do You Even understand What is the Meaning of berhad?🤣🤣🤣

Ini je komen ko? Adoi patutlah bijan ada supporter mcm ko🤭 bagilah ulasan Yg bernas cikit

I also think higher interest rate But nowhere to be found here🤭

No need comment oso whole malaysia knows who anwar is

Shareholders can sack the management, but are usually not involved in daily operation of the company.

Well, unless the shareholders happen to be in the management, but this is not the case of PNB and EPF.

This post has been edited by river.sand: Jan 27 2022, 07:43 PM

Anwar

Bank shud cancel all your credit card also because they are unsecured facilities and maybe you will bankrupt also

Ya bank Normally will request personal guarantee from director But this budak lim smart dunwan become🤣

There is a board of directors where the CEO is accountable to.

xde siapa suruh PNB EPF Khazanh pegang syer begitu byk kat Maybank CIMB & RHB

Nada untung knp x tegur??

huat ah

dah la BangNuar.

Ask question marah

Tak ask question cakap where Anwar

Lmaooooo

ex Finance minister
macai bodoh macam you apa tau

The questions is why loan so much without any cagaran? U think this is court's mammoth kah?

the interest rates are irrelevant as that kapal inside got casino, so it's high-risk business. no collateral is mind blowing like bijan.

2012 siapa pm and fm?

Apasai pm tepi malaysia ini suka sangat cakap yang obvious.

Kalau hari ini vincent tan dgn networth berbillion mempunyai duit di bank malaysia, syarikat dia mau pinjam.. bank tak bagi ke? Ya ke?

Pm tepi dah la..selalu kata ada nombor.. tapi sebenar nia nak bilang pun tak erti. Pui.

It's the bank lor... like how you put your money in the bank and they loan out to people that use it to start kedai makan that comes with serving of arak.

Anyway, please take over the gov now.

This post has been edited by Capt. Marble: Jan 28 2022, 07:45 AM

Shit happened. So sekarang apa solution hang? Bagi sikit idea.

Dia cuma tau baca headline dan repeat jer.

Thats why pm tepi forever, dulu dia baca majalah kosmo.
Anuar ibrahim nombor penuh.. jadi dia pun naik istana kasi tuanku tau, dia ini next pm.

Tapi sebenarnia editor kosmo minggu itu minum ketum. Jadi dia pun high jer macam pm tepi ini. Malu la..

Sendiri bodoh cukup la. Mau tarik semua ikut dia bodoh.

i happy about our future pm anwar...
good leader.

Business lo...ape lagi.. Masa untung x bising pon let the bank handle their businesses la

Risk management mana

O forgot its Maybank, CIMB and RHB

7 year senior secured

Not just Malaysian banks, Singapore and HK banks also affected.

masa untung tak kecoh pun. ahli politik kecoh tak tentu pasal. modal PRN Johor so that wont eat telur again ke?

This post has been edited by commonsense: Jan 28 2022, 08:08 AM

Genting loan approved in billiyun..

While rakyat affected by banjir and covid being asked to do a loan instead of their hard own moneh from kwsp..

Hanat

Why number man cares ? They are banks, banks can do what ever they want.

this happened when politician try to talk about finance

Let's be fair, the loan would be very profitable if the pandemic did not happen. Nobody would have cared whether it's secured or unsecured if the pandemic did not affect cruise biz around the world.

What yr the loan given?

Registered in HK, tax paid to HK, but unsecured loan from Malaysia. Do they know how to do business?

Ko ni pun bodoh. No one say bank cannot pinjam. Why pinjam without cagaran? Genting So many lands tanah Why cannot give bank cagar? Even normal ppl company want pinjam bank ask collateral. This one hundred millions boleh suka2 give unsecure no need pay back. Babi rakyat macam u Sure habis negara ini

Bank is a Public company shareholders Can ask bank Why pinjam unsecure Loan no need pay back? Like serba karim suka2 Fake business sales shareholders Can sue him also

Go read genting cruise Started making losses Even before pandemic happen. Bank should Put clause no pay back genting got many land banks kasi lelong🤭. Itu baru betul. You think bank is out ther to do charity kah. Next time rakyat go pinjam no need pay back Can or not?🤭

Ayam jelly. Can I call maybank ask for unsecure loan?

PH onpy interested in money problem?

If every bank in Malaysia like Public Bank only prefer to do secured loan, how the economy going to work like this.

Ini Genting HK, mainly on cruise business, so where got land as collateral? Before bash go study Genting Group structure ok

Bank also give out unsecured loan to normal pipit like us, personal loan or credit card, then i ask u why bank cannot give unsecured loan to listed corporate like genting HK?

Bodoh tu simpan sikit ok

Banks will lelong their cruises and keep the money?

Even normal ppl unsecured got limit and charge high interest. You Bodo really think genting hk is not related to genting? I have biz all different names But related. Go read who is the major shareholders. Lim smart fella dont want give personal guarantee. So buka different company If in piquidation other company Safe. In corporate world So many ways to escape liability🤭

Kan . Wtf. Private banks give loan he questioned finance minister. Itu olang sudah Naik gila. Lama Sgt gila kuasa now really sot plak Cho.

also must depend on what kind of business and the amount. They are not spending the money on msia infrastructure and also the amount is too large. Put collateral also means to make sure you will spend the money wisely and properly plan. They keep on borrowing money to build more ships until Germany stop the financing then need to lingkup nw.

MOF = Khazanah = PNB = EPF🤭

listed company no need personal guarantee lah, i think u don't understand how bank works also. That is the benefit of listed company because bank can give u unsecured loan based on your company financial record.

This one is given back in year 2012, so how much bank untung? even loan impairment is part and parcel of their business, if u do business can confirm can collect all 100% from your debtors? sure got some people run away and not paying outstanding debt.

If u can buka multiple listed company with profitable financial track record, u think bank don't want to do your business? U keep focusing on this unsecured loan part, u didn't think about how many hundred millions deposit from Genting Group? How many secured loan from Genting Group? Before pandemic Genting cash and bank alone has few billions on hand, then when they issue bond, their IB also can untung commission from there. If RHB/CIMB/Maybank tak mau do Genting business, Genting can just go to UOB/DBS Singapore bank and borrow money from there, in the end Malaysia bank will lose all deposit and loan business.

there are thousands of question to be ask

example flood and etc

why choose the worst

if u billionaire can

u pipit diam aje la

You know Why many banks involve? Becos it is unsecured that Why bank pun takut pinjam more. If secured only need 1 bank. Thats Why there is an arrangement Behind the scene btw proxy cronies related. Do You Even know there are Related ppl sitting in the bod? Go dig You will know. For listed company to raise fund So many ways to do it. PP RI hybrid equities redeemable share convertible share etc. Thats Why budak lim smart If Anything happen no need personally liable. Tengok toni boi AA pun tau. Even separate legal entity Can be lifted If You know the way🤭

Forgot to tell u genting cruise ship making losses Even before pandemic lagi. Go read their Annual report🤭

Wow so great, apa proxy cronies throw out

I like your logic ya

You tidur ke?

Question tu dah ask.

Sekarang news on genting baru keluar. Mesti la Tanya NOW. Tak kan Nak Tanya next year . Top kek jkom ni

Got private bank?

Private bank= Ah Long

JkoM manyak kuat plotek. Must be soalan susah.