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TSairtawarian
post Jan 27 2022, 04:57 PM, updated 4y ago

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Undilah judi Make genting Great again🤭

Kenyataan Media
27 Januari 2022

MENGAPA PNB, KHAZANAH, DAN KWSP BERI PINJAMAN KEPADA SYARIKAT PERJUDIAN?

Saya ikuti pendedahan terkait tiga bank Malaysia, Malayan Banking Berhad (Maybank), Kumpulan CIMB Berhad dan RHB Bank Berhad yang dijangka mengalami kerugian berbilion ringgit ekoran Genting Hong Kong yang diisytihar muflis.

Menurut laporan media, ketiga-tiga bank tersebut telah memberi pinjaman tanpa jaminan berjumlah AS$600 juta (RM2.51 bilion).

Saya mendesak Menteri Kewangan untuk segera menjawab persoalan mengapakah bank-bank ini dibenar memberi pinjaman tanpa jaminan kepada Genting Hong Kong.

Ini adalah kerana kerajaan melalui Permodalan Nasional Berhad (PNB), Khazanah, dan Kumpulan Wang Simpanan Pekerja (KWSP) adalah pemegang saham terbesar dalam ketiga-tiga bank itu.

Bagaimana pinjaman tanpa jaminan kepada syarikat perjudian ini boleh diberi dengan sebegitu mudah?

Walaupun syarikat itu berdaftar di Hong Kong, pemiliknya adalah ahli perniagaan Malaysia yang sekurang-kurangnya perlu diminta jaminan peribadi atau simpanannya dalam syarikat yang dimilikinya di Malaysia.

Menteri Kewangan juga dituntut menjelaskan bagaimana pinjaman RM2.51 billion ini akan dibayar oleh Genting Hong Kong yang sudah muflis.

Bagi saya, penjelasan ini perlu disegerakan bagi mengelak skandal Bumiputra Malaysia Finance (BMF) Hong Kong berulang.

ANWAR IBRAHIM
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post Jan 27 2022, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(jmas @ Jan 27 2022, 04:59 PM)
(scratch that) bank give loan to private company need shareholder's approval??
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You Bodo? Whatever decision made by bod Must be in the interest of the shareholder and protect them. Not the Third party aka genting🤭 that is Why they are called PUBLIC LISTED COMPANY 🤣🤣🤣
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post Jan 27 2022, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jan 27 2022, 05:28 PM)
Private company suka hati they all la.

EPF and PNB can always sell the shares if they don't think it's well run ma.

Anwar never ask why EPF bought into messiahword nbdre company Serba Dinamik and lost tons of money?
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Private company? Do You Even understand What is the Meaning of berhad?🤣🤣🤣
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post Jan 27 2022, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(nintendo86 @ Jan 27 2022, 05:37 PM)
Eh2 nuar ni kang
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Ini je komen ko? Adoi patutlah bijan ada supporter mcm ko🤭 bagilah ulasan Yg bernas cikit
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post Jan 27 2022, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(Donchay @ Jan 27 2022, 05:40 PM)
Unsecure loans means higher interest rate la since default risk is higher and no collateral
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I also think higher interest rate But nowhere to be found here🤭
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post Jan 27 2022, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Jan 27 2022, 08:05 PM)
Anwar

Bank shud cancel all your credit card also because they are unsecured facilities and maybe you will bankrupt also
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Ya bank Normally will request personal guarantee from director But this budak lim smart dunwan become🤣
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post Jan 28 2022, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(badmilk @ Jan 28 2022, 07:38 AM)
Apasai pm tepi malaysia ini suka sangat cakap yang obvious.

Kalau hari ini vincent tan dgn networth berbillion mempunyai duit di bank malaysia, syarikat dia mau pinjam.. bank tak bagi ke? Ya ke?

Pm tepi dah la..selalu kata ada nombor.. tapi sebenar nia nak bilang pun tak erti. Pui.
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Ko ni pun bodoh. No one say bank cannot pinjam. Why pinjam without cagaran? Genting So many lands tanah Why cannot give bank cagar? Even normal ppl company want pinjam bank ask collateral. This one hundred millions boleh suka2 give unsecure no need pay back. Babi rakyat macam u Sure habis negara ini
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post Jan 28 2022, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(loon90 @ Jan 28 2022, 08:29 AM)
Why number man cares ? They are banks, banks can do what ever they want.
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Bank is a Public company shareholders Can ask bank Why pinjam unsecure Loan no need pay back? Like serba karim suka2 Fake business sales shareholders Can sue him also
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post Jan 28 2022, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 28 2022, 08:32 AM)
Let's be fair, the loan would be very profitable if the pandemic did not happen. Nobody would have cared whether it's secured or unsecured if the pandemic did not affect cruise biz around the world.
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Go read genting cruise Started making losses Even before pandemic happen. Bank should Put clause no pay back genting got many land banks kasi lelong🤭. Itu baru betul. You think bank is out ther to do charity kah. Next time rakyat go pinjam no need pay back Can or not?🤭
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post Jan 28 2022, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 28 2022, 09:47 AM)
If every bank in Malaysia like Public Bank only prefer to do secured loan, how the economy going to work like this.
Ini Genting HK, mainly on cruise business, so where got land as collateral? Before bash go study Genting Group structure ok

Bank also give out unsecured loan to normal pipit like us, personal loan or credit card, then i ask u why bank cannot give unsecured loan to listed corporate like genting HK?

Bodoh tu simpan sikit ok
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Even normal ppl unsecured got limit and charge high interest. You Bodo really think genting hk is not related to genting? I have biz all different names But related. Go read who is the major shareholders. Lim smart fella dont want give personal guarantee. So buka different company If in piquidation other company Safe. In corporate world So many ways to escape liability🤭
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post Jan 28 2022, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jan 28 2022, 09:59 AM)
Kan . Wtf. Private banks give loan he questioned finance minister. Itu olang sudah Naik gila. Lama Sgt gila kuasa now really sot plak Cho.
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MOF = Khazanah = PNB = EPF🤭
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post Jan 28 2022, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 28 2022, 10:06 AM)
listed company no need personal guarantee lah, i think u don't understand how bank works also. That is the benefit of listed company because bank can give u unsecured loan based on your company financial record.

This one is given back in year 2012, so how much bank untung? even loan impairment is part and parcel of their business, if u do business can confirm can collect all 100% from your debtors? sure got some people run away and not paying outstanding debt.

If u can buka multiple listed company with profitable financial track record, u think bank don't want to do your business? U keep focusing on this unsecured loan part, u didn't think about how many hundred millions deposit from Genting Group? How many secured loan from Genting Group? Before pandemic Genting cash and bank alone has few billions on hand, then when they issue bond, their IB also can untung commission from there. If RHB/CIMB/Maybank tak mau do Genting business, Genting can just go to UOB/DBS Singapore bank and borrow money from there, in the end Malaysia bank will lose all deposit and loan business.
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You know Why many banks involve? Becos it is unsecured that Why bank pun takut pinjam more. If secured only need 1 bank. Thats Why there is an arrangement Behind the scene btw proxy cronies related. Do You Even know there are Related ppl sitting in the bod? Go dig You will know. For listed company to raise fund So many ways to do it. PP RI hybrid equities redeemable share convertible share etc. Thats Why budak lim smart If Anything happen no need personally liable. Tengok toni boi AA pun tau. Even separate legal entity Can be lifted If You know the way🤭
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post Jan 28 2022, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 28 2022, 10:06 AM)
listed company no need personal guarantee lah, i think u don't understand how bank works also. That is the benefit of listed company because bank can give u unsecured loan based on your company financial record.

This one is given back in year 2012, so how much bank untung? even loan impairment is part and parcel of their business, if u do business can confirm can collect all 100% from your debtors? sure got some people run away and not paying outstanding debt.

If u can buka multiple listed company with profitable financial track record, u think bank don't want to do your business? U keep focusing on this unsecured loan part, u didn't think about how many hundred millions deposit from Genting Group? How many secured loan from Genting Group? Before pandemic Genting cash and bank alone has few billions on hand, then when they issue bond, their IB also can untung commission from there. If RHB/CIMB/Maybank tak mau do Genting business, Genting can just go to UOB/DBS Singapore bank and borrow money from there, in the end Malaysia bank will lose all deposit and loan business.
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Forgot to tell u genting cruise ship making losses Even before pandemic lagi. Go read their Annual report🤭
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 28 2022, 10:22 AM)
Wow so great, apa proxy cronies throw out laugh.gif

I like your logic ya :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
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Read and read. Study who is sitting there. Relationship. Corporate world circle is very Small only🤭
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post Jan 28 2022, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jan 28 2022, 12:11 PM)
Ya they have share but since when MOf control banks business decisions!
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MOF Didnt control But shareholders have a right to convene an EGM to request board of directors to answer this. How much profit generated from the unsecured Loan to genting hk given the fact that the company is making losses since his son LKT took over. Whether the directors and Ind NED aware of the management decision? Any resolution passed in giving the biggest unsecured loan to one corporate company? How much being write off? Any impairment done?

Fernando Jr Copernicus

Bermula pinjaman zaman Jibby Al Jho Lo 😂😂😂

"So for as long as Genting Hong Kong was in operation, it’s always been in business with Maybank to establish investor relations and secure loans. And in 2012, Genting Hong Kong managed to secure loans from both Maybank and RHB, amounting up to a whopping USD$1.15billion and USD$420million respectively. Apparently, the deal with Maybank was considered to be one of the largest finance arrangements by Maybank."

https://cilisos.my/genting-hks-currently-rm...gonna-collapse/
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post Jan 28 2022, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(badmilk @ Jan 28 2022, 02:56 PM)
Infact the richer u are in society. The less u have to pay.

Company/kerajaan pay ur expenses, car/ home / living expenses while ur salary untouched.

- also if ur name carry certain weight u get everything for free

- annuar ini want act stupid and be juara kampung thats why ask this stupid question.

Patutla dia ini PM TEPI forever. And his army come /k promote this dumb ass statement.

Pui.
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Ok la. At least bang non berani jadi jaguh kampung. Yg kroni2 taik BN Pn semua diam je🤭 semua geng genting
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post Jan 28 2022, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 28 2022, 10:22 AM)
Wow so great, apa proxy cronies throw out laugh.gif

I like your logic ya :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
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You can learn from jho low🤣🤣 become shadow advisor cum director cum mastermind easy escape liability. So many ways to siphon money but I cannot teach you la🤭

https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/608788
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post Jan 29 2022, 11:22 AM

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Now blame germany pulak🤣🤣🤣
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jan 29 2022, 11:35 AM)
that is the problem. The workers dun own the business. only treat themselves as workers. If u know will affect ur assets, u think u so brave to build many ships ah.
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True. Public teh Hong piow 23% shares and HLB Quek Leng chan 64% shares. Others banks BOD mostly cari makan staff🤭. Senang genting get free money untung I take rugi You bear🤣🤣🤣
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 29 2022, 11:58 AM)
+1

banks love to give loans to rich fellas/co

even when you dont need it, they can come to you with creative loan package
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Correct. Thats Why bank Keep calling. Rmb one manager personally called and offered good interest rate. I Just buat bodoh🤣

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