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MAGAMan-X
post Sep 29 2022, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Sep 29 2022, 10:04 PM)
You will only bounce back if you go into caloric surplus.

U will keep losing weigh if you stay in caloric deficit regardless if you drink alcohol.
You cannot defy physics.
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Short term maybe. But long term, you're going to become fat and tired, because you're telling your body "i'm starving" and your body is going to lower your metabolic rate because all you're consuming are carbs and alcohol.

There's a reason why almost all participants in "The Biggest Loser" regain back their weight, and in some cases put on even more, almost immediate after.

https://healthyeater.com/biggest-loser-then-now
https://health.usnews.com/health-news/blogs...you-lose-weight

Calorie restriction doesn't work, because your body will down-regulate your metabolism because you're not eating the right food for it, and worse still, your health is going to suffer.
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post Sep 29 2022, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Sep 29 2022, 10:31 PM)
Short term maybe. But long term, you're going to become fat and tired, because you're telling your body "i'm starving" and your body is going to lower your metabolic rate because all you're consuming are carbs and alcohol.

There's a reason why almost all participants in "The Biggest Loser" regain back their weight, and in some cases put on even more, almost immediate after.

https://healthyeater.com/biggest-loser-then-now
https://health.usnews.com/health-news/blogs...you-lose-weight

Calorie restriction doesn't work, because your body will down-regulate your metabolism because you're not eating the right food for it, and worse still, your health is going to suffer.
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Calorie restriction doesn't work, because your body will down-regulate your metabolism


If your body TDEE drops by 300~500cal once your lose weight, you will have to recalculate your new TDEE and get back into caloric deficit.
TDEE ussualy reduce cause your body is lighter, moving around use less cals.
Not always because "metabolism slows cause starving"
Calorie deficit always works. Its physics.

Biggest losers gain back weight cause they go into big surplus due to eat alot food after the show.
That's why you shud be in 300~500 deficit not crash diet 1500 deficit.

It's ussualy wise to eat at TDEE after a deficit for few months to give yourself a break before resuming deficit later on.

Stop reading any news website to get your info. They ussualy suck and full of misinformation.
Follow sources like Mike Israetel from Renaissance Periodization

Just to add, I did a crash diet 1000 calorie deficit cut 2 months ago. Lost 1kg/week till total 6kg lost.
Now I am just maintaining my new weight by eating at TDEE.
You cannot gain back weight magically without caloric surplus.


This post has been edited by Armesh: Sep 29 2022, 10:45 PM
MAGAMan-X
post Sep 29 2022, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Sep 29 2022, 10:42 PM)
If your body TDEE drops by 300~500cal once your lose weight, you will have to recalculate your new TDEE and get back into caloric deficit.
TDEE ussualy reduce cause your body is lighter, moving around use less cals.
Not always because "metabolism slows cause starving"
Calorie deficit always works. Its physics.

Biggest losers gain back weight cause they go into big surplus due to eat alot food after the show.
That's why you shud be in 300~500 deficit not crash diet 1500 deficit.

It's ussualy wise to eat at TDEE after a deficit for few months to give yourself a break before resuming deficit later on.

Stop reading any news website to get your info. They ussualy suck and full of misinformation.
Follow sources like Mike Israetel from Renaissance Periodization
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You obviously didn't digest the part where it states your body will lower its metabolic rate and change its set point when you calorie restrict. Please read the article properly, the Biggest Losers gain back weight NOT because they ate a surplus, but it's because their metabolic rate dropped. One even gained weight just by drinking water.

Look, a calorie is not a calorie, not all calories are the same. People keep thinking "it's physics, it's physics" when they don't understand the basic physics, which is YOUR BODY DOES NOT RUN ON HEAT. When I see people say that, I know they don't know what a calorie is.
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post Sep 29 2022, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Sep 29 2022, 10:49 PM)
You obviously didn't digest the part where it states your body will lower its metabolic rate and change its set point when you calorie restrict. Please read the article properly, the Biggest Losers gain back weight NOT because they ate a surplus, but it's because their metabolic rate dropped. One even gained weight just by drinking water.

Look, a calorie is not a calorie, not all calories are the same. People keep thinking "it's physics, it's physics" when they don't understand the basic physics, which is YOUR BODY DOES NOT RUN ON HEAT. When I see people say that, I know they don't know what a calorie is.
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Biggest Losers gain back weight NOT because they ate a surplus, but it's because their metabolic rate dropped

No you only can gain weigh in surplus no matter what.
Of course TDEE gonna drop alot if you lose 100kgs. Adjust your diet intake accordingly.
My TDEE at 85kg was 3100 cals, now at 81kg is 2800cals.


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One even gained weight just by drinking water.

Peak BULLSHIT

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MAGAMan-X
post Sep 29 2022, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Sep 29 2022, 10:56 PM)
No you only can gain weigh in surplus no matter what.
Of course TDEE gonna drop alot if you lose 100kgs. Adjust your diet intake accordingly.
My TDEE at 85kg was 3100 cals, now at 81kg is 2800cals.
Peak BULLSHIT
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Thanks for confirming you didn't read (nor understand) the articles I posted, and also confirming you don't understand set point.

Like I said, you just simply don't understand how the body works.

Why don't you answer me this instead. What is a calorie?

This post has been edited by MAGAMan-X: Sep 29 2022, 11:07 PM
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post Dec 27 2022, 05:16 PM

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Over time...

Calories surplus = weight gain
Calories deficit = weight loss

Don't complicate things mang

This post has been edited by chairboy: Dec 27 2022, 05:16 PM

 

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