Ok la, doesn't affect me much since I mostly buy from Lasapda.

Tencent selling SEA's share, no more money to burn after hire Jackie Chan?

this is they charge sellers rite?

They charge seller, seller charge customer. In the end, consumer kena.

Lazada also follow increase price.

Shopee getting worst no longer best buying site

semua pon naik ..except gaji

Not all sellers will mark up , cos 1% maybe stil can absorb.. i jus maintain my price only. Anyway i dont join those free shipping program, that really cut into profit too much. Only if ur item is very cheap baru worth it

Wish I can buy from lazada but a lot of stuff are way more expensive on lazada

Even with this rate every free shipping is burning money.

lazada win the long game.

shopee just do not have enough infra and backers to fight lazada.

now sea limited shares going to drain due to no foreseeable profit, want charge higher fee to consumer/seller ended up losing market share.

GG endless cancer cycle.

big mistake to be listed. big mistake to strike on long term logistic and distribution deals with the likes of pos singapore, pos malaysia, ninjavan and j&t in which resulted its major cost and weakness value segment become too static/uncontrollable as well as unable to innovate through technologies. Big capital can only be splashed to get market share instead of innovation.

board of directors are all too young with only successful experiences from garena
- long stroke of good luck & circumstances and seamoney
- unethical money grabbing practice of from addicted young gamers.

tencent distancing is a red big flag. if shopee continue to go down, the company will be gg soon.

Show some proof la

Lots of my monthly usage item still cheaper in lazada during sales including shipping.

Good la. This evens it out for non-preferred seller and preferred seller. I've always wonder why they would charge more for preferred seller when these are the sellers that performs. They should be rewarded, not penalized.

Btw, missing another 2% for transaction fee but I guess they didn't include because no changes but I think it's somewhat misleading.

I think shopee already revised their charges like at least twice now for the past 2-3 years.... rarely heard lazada hiking prices/charges

back to lazada I guess then

rindu lelong.my

Most of my groceries are cheaper at Shopee, even with Lazada having sales. If buy from Shopee Supermarket that is.

Others, like toilet roll, the same Official Store, Shopee one sell cheaper. +Lazada one no free shipping cos it's Lazada Mall seller.

Lazada, certain smartphone or IT brands cheaper during sales.
Otherwise, like the other forumer said, Shopee punya cheaper.

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Jan 7 2022, 03:26 PM

boycott

use lelong.com la

what is lazada rates now...?

gemfive still the best, huge discount

owai

I use both Laz and sopee. Buy whichever offer less for the same product. So far, mostly sopee win because of the free shipping voucher.

garage sales kan ada

yea bought so many large item at gem5. discount so easy to apply no much t&c and no fake high discount with low RM cap.

dem i really miss gem5. tech items rm200 discount rm30, rm500 rm50
no wonder they bungkus how to untung like dat.

This post has been edited by anndroid: Jan 7 2022, 03:30 PM

Grocery items shopee still cheaper. Lazada idk why the price is much higher padahal it's from the same store

rindu gem5 dan 11srt

Rindu 11street and Rakuten MY.

since when best buying site

Lazada way better since 2014 until now. people just got fooled with cheapskate free shipping.

Lelong website kan ada

lelong chibai so lembab dont wan upgrade their payment system....if they follow the trend lelong will be big...

Both have their strengths

Lazada best for event sales, especially for large value item.
Shopee best for small value item especially during coinsback hours, can sometime get 30-90% off in equivalent coinsback.

Ayam spending and savings during 11.11

Not my problem.

I only buy from shopee if can receive and redeem coins. Free shipping is a joke, only 1 per month or something. And now, many sellers cannot get coins anymore.

Sometimes, brick and mortar is cheaper. Aeon got CNY sale now, items are cheaper than buying online. Go figure. Who says retail is dead?

baru 1%, mana cukup. 6% la

kan semua banyak wang i-cerita i-sonar

semua orang pun target la wang tu

no wonder shopee dare to keep increasing the price. so many still have the thinking that shopee is the cheapest

if really do homework and compare (like someone above with calculations), actually nowadays shopee the most expensive

it's too bad because shopee used to be heavy competition with lzd so end up both giving competitive price. unfortunately consumers now just surrender to shopee's gimmick, end up now shopee monopolise and less price competition (in fact people happily spend more at shopee)

very surprised people willing to pay more at shopee, again i blame it on the shopee gimmick, blinding consumers

another thing is the whole site design, search function and reviews. shopee has much better search system and more products to choose from including overseas. also the total reviews with photos is alot more than lazada. so far for the things that i need to buy shopee has more choices that has free shipping. i want to support lazada but less items and the app is just so buggy.

yes i actually had the same thinking as you last time. shopee comes out with more hits and choices that suits my searches compared to lzd. but i realised in order to tackle the lackluster search by lzd, i use shopee as my screening search first. once i find the item i want, i use keyword from shopee and apply in lzd search. easier

yes lzd has less review because no gimmick like in shopee for rewarding coins by reviewing. end up nowadays even with many reviews at shopee i can't trust them because poor quality review, people just want to get few coins so simply give reviews. i found lzd reviews are more critical. and those without review, i realise lzd offer better support for returns if item is not good. many times shopee seller don't honour returns and headache when shopee CS also side with shopee seller. and the negative reviews is negligible because end up they still retain preferred status

The thing is the vouchers in shopee are very limited and time limited. All snatched up by bots before we are able to purchase anything. Meanwhile lazada has 100-10 and free shipping and we don't have to camp after 12.

This post has been edited by strife01: Jan 7 2022, 04:46 PM

waiting for new platform... probably shopee Mara?

Both have their difficulties

Shopee you get the voucher doesn't mean you can use it, there is 'limited use'. Must use after start time (like 12am).

Lazada has 'limited collect' for the voucher, once they release it if you don't get it its gone. They sometimes refresh it throughout the day, but either you check every other hour and depends on luck. If you get it though then you can definitely use it as long within the voucher's validity period.

what's the difference between preferred seller and non?
your product will be more at the front?

priced higher + the free shipping voucher didn't cover the whole shipping fee(for sabah)

I think can only redeem coin from preferred.

Used to bought a phone with 300 discount, after that close down no more.....

Do sellers still have to pay for the cashback or Shopee covers the cashback cost from the 7% merchant fee?

If Shopee covers the cashback it still makes sense for Sellers to sign up. Sellers can mark up to 8- 9%, pay shopee 7% and buyers still get 10% cashback

Also does Shopee cover the shipping cost for merchants in the free shipping program?

This post has been edited by gilabola: Jan 7 2022, 05:46 PM

Means shopee charge 4% kah?

2% transaction fee, 2% marketplace fee. 6% SST. 4.24%.

Assuming you take the full package,

2% tx fee
2% marketplace fee
7% RM15 free shipping + cashback

11.66% fee.

No cashback maybe still can compete but no free shipping and you're in a competitive product range, no chance. If profit margin is 10%, means doing charity

This post has been edited by whyamiblack: Jan 7 2022, 06:09 PM

Still lasapda too less sellers selling compared to shopee.

Certain niche product i can find on shopee. But not laaapda. Quite alot products available on shopee but not lasapda

i didn't know that

all my recent purchase, all i claim coins...various percentage
and not all of them are preferred

This is correct, which is why i dont join the free shipping. U very familiar o. U also seller?

Burn money more la with Jackie chan, Ronaldo etc... Now pocket pecah liao

4.24% a lot sial

Weird, how those voucher/ticket seller can sell cheap2?

No more funder money to burn, need to start generate profit

Extended to some (not all) non-preferred sellers now, since last week if I am not wrong.

The price increase trend is gathering massive pace .

Ham kaling inflation soon

Yup. Shopee already makan a lot from the full package but I'm lucky enough to still be able to work things around lah. Plus they recently reached out for priority seller. Looking forward to that.

I don't know what these are so maybe they got it for free or they have source to get it for free consistently?

This one is seller commission affected ma

I think many china sellers gonna eject from shopee or gonna raise price. tiu nia ma ka sofutoooooooooooooooo

Rindu lowyat.net Marketplace

Lazada all the way

every product just raise more 2% lo.

maybe only affected WM-ians
but for S&S, shopee and lazada is your best friend compared to buying from shop

that would be additional 1.06% increase... hmm welp... still ok since doesn't have much difference. Traffic-wise, can draw from socmed & its free instead of closed eco-system that kena charge & cost seeping into profit making it hard to maintain competitive price.

The only thing to monitor is the sneaky overweight shipping charge adjustment if using the platform's logi. seller beware.

This post has been edited by AdisonMak: Jan 7 2022, 09:08 PM

Biggest mistake is not buying a logistic company.Compare to china Cainiao.Both should build or buy a logistic company and rebrand and expend it.
If shope wants to regain , they must tackle in shipping first.
Every few months see laz or shope on news logistic Protest , Throw item , Open the packages/steal items and etc.

As buyer/seller , no shipping = failure or shipping with no protection = failure.I think every seller/buyer here experience , packages missing/stolen , late delivery , product return on poor delivery damage and etc.

Maybe Pgmall.my since it's from JD.

Depends , but how do you count by cheaper ?
With voucher and sales or without voucher ? Sometimes you need to check both before buying.
Everyday certain groceries got flash sales on laz and shope , you need to check everyday.It's hard to keep up on both.

Sometimes non Official Store is cheaper.You don't need to buy at Official store.
Toilet roll both the same price.
Shope isn't much better where seller didn't join 10% cashback.
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/premier-...6975404075.html
https://shopee.com.my/Premier-Pulp-Toiler-R...828.10004466185

New user ? Old user only have 2 free shipping.

Then need to compare on both platform charge on commission and campaign.

Shope coin very confusing.You need to pay full amount and cashback to you but you have to continue buying with voucher to get a cheaper price then cback to you again.Continue looping until non stop.

Wait till covid over , most will go back to retailer.Both platform is tiring , everyday check for price and promotion , play their campaign or games , you'll get tired and bored one day.

The coin looping you mentioned is to KEEP you within the site. I'm currently doing spring cleaning by utilizing ALL coins on hands. Everyday bill payment with 1500 coins max. Coins are WORTHLESS if one keeps holding it.

Most stuff on Shopee is still cheaper than lazada. I buy alot of stuff on shopee. Last year i spent 40k on shopee alone.

Nope. Mostly big purchase items are cheaper in lazada. With the free shipping, shopee is still better. This is not very hard to compare, don't just assume. It's a very competitive market.

While the fees are lower in lazada, free shipping is borne by the seller IINM. For low priced item, this will easily cut into profit, so free shipping from shopee is definitely necessary. High fees in shopee is not suitable for high priced items it's because of percentage. You can sell RM15-100 items and still profit even though you're paying higher fees because the cost of free shipping would cover you. If you send it yourself, it would cost more. Obviously, customer would not like this if there's no free shipping. Meanwhile, it's harder to profit on a RM1k item and above because of it's percentage. So you'd need lower percentage platform for these items, like lazada. It's just natural course of action and math.

Jackie Chan is a curse.

Just noticed items RM15 increased to RM28.90 this year.
Lol.
Better just get from Taobao they're much cheaper there even includes the shipping fees.

1%+1%.....
So 7%+2%=9%
Woohoo better go 14th floor, how to compete with fake oils on shopee?

When it comes to both online shopping platform, still prefer Shopee compared to Lazada.

Reason: There's more sellers in Shopee. Item is way cheaper compared to Lazada for certain items.

The raising TREND of sellers giving up on CBs drives me to DUMP/UTILIZE mine even faster, whatever way's possible. I'm expecting lesser chances of usage in NEAR future when the numbers of non CB sellers further increases. NO POINT of keeping more, only waiting for them to EXPIRE. At least for now, whatever was pumped into my postpaid account can LAST me 2.5yrs d. Still adding though and I'm HAPPY with it.

With free shipping voucher & sales. If Shopee, like 12/12, 1/1 sales.

Toilet roll. For the brand I use, Official Store actually cheaper on sales day compared to non Official.


Shopee sell at RM25.90 per roll during 12/12 sales. And as you can see, got further discount some more if buy more RMxx.

Lazada, cheapest I've seen is RM26.90 few days ago, from Lazada Mall tagged seller.

For Dettol, everytime 1/1, 2/2, 3/3 the official Store at Shopee will have discount. Lazada one rare, same Official Store.

Shopee Supermarket cheaper cos have extra 5% discount for Shopee Mart member on weekends. So it's cheaper than mana2,including official store.

surprisingly i hardly ever get to use free shipping vouchers from shopee. always either out of stock or price of item too low so unable to use the free shipping voucher

on the other hand, lazada is the one i can easily get free shipping vouchers, even without minimum spend. and i noticed although price of item in shopee maybe cheaper, but because lazada can stack vouchers many vouchers together, end up cheaper. i guess because i got used to lazada system, so able to milk more from lazada. again, for me i am not trying to promote lazada. i am just surprised many buyers only strictly shop from one platform (shopee) but never bother learning another platform. indirectly that causes less competition and end up shopee gets all the last laugh because buyers still happily buy from them although other platform maybe cheaper, vice versa. i want competition to happen so consumers like us can enjoy more competitive (cheaper) price hehe

if you are familiar with lazada, during 12.12 actually you can collect platform voucher and bank voucher and free shipping and some other shop vouchers. so actually if you know how to collect the vouchers and stack appropriately, the discounts can be more than at shopee

and no need to compete because vouchers at lzd do not disappear like in shopee after collection. and i don't need to become special members of lazada or anything also (so no binding as well)

Is this significant? I actually have plans to start selling on shopee, just part time. Or should I choose Lazada?

I do own very little Alibaba shares but I don't think what I sell would even matter..it's just that since it's part time I want to choose the more popular app..

I tried & tested, it's not applicable to all sellers.

Yes, Lazada have the RM12 free shipping for some sellers but quite a number of sellers under 'Lazada Mall' tag no memang no free shipping or discount voucher. Sudah test.

Shop voucher, etc etc mostly not applicable unless spend big amount which Shopee sellers also same thing. I click on all the vouchers offered by a particular Lazada seller.

For RM12 free shipping sellers at Lazada, many items price still more expensive than Shopee seller for same exact item. If I used all the Shopee free shipping vouchers then only buy from Lazada.

The Shopee Mart member thing is free to join, just click a few button. So, in the same vein those of us who use Shopee more can also say if you know the Shopee system, can get free shipping + shop vouchers. Everything on sales day can get.

It's not so leceh like Lazada the seller suddenly flash sale , not 12/12, 1/1, etc but suddenly flash sale on non offer days.
I have the items on both Lazada & Shopee cart, can check whenever I want.

So, it depends on the item you want to buy. The items you buy Lazada cheaper, the items I buy mostly Shopee cheaper.

be careful sellers. shopee is out to auto-enroll you and scam more money. i was caught by surprise by this money-grabbing initiative.

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First and foremost, please allow me to share that sellers will be enrolled on BOTH the RM15 Free Shipping and 10% Cashback Programmes (Bundle) and will get to enjoy a 1-week free Service Fee from 5 August 2022 to 11 August 2022.



Eligible sellers will be auto-enrolled in this initiative. Before the auto-enrollment start (5 August 2022), sellers will be given an interest form (interest form open from 26 July to 2 August) which they are able to fill up the form if they wish to be excluded from the initiative.



Pertaining to this, since you have been enrolled in our programme, you may refer to the link below where at the bottom of the page, you can find a button that says "Opt Out" that you can click on.

I am suprising now lazada can apply so many voucher in same purchase like store voucher, shop voucher, lazada voucher, shipment voucher, lazada bonus, suprise voucher (eg: lazExtra), lazada wallet voucher, tng wallet voucher. It is awasome ! I have switch from shitpee plaform to lazada already.

Time for IPO

yup better shopping in lazada see in my signature how much i can gather voucher up to rm30 plus from lazada rm10 some more

peepee stingy and go die pls

free shipping also cheat people

People still purchase at scampee?

shitpee getting downhill
lapsapda bettrr now?

pretty much , not buying from shopee since 2020... now lazada wayyyyyyyy better

lazada is always > shopee since forever.

but but but..shopee still buy those small small item better.
for bigger items, yeah lazada better.