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k!nex
post Jan 9 2022, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(kongmingdao @ Jan 5 2022, 06:15 PM)
4G is the minimum for basic usage.
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Today even office use desktops we spec with 8GB of RAM. If you have 4GB of RAM. Half of it already gone to the OS . Antivirus another 300MB. You left with 1GB+ of RAM for browser + microsoft office ? Once Windows Update run at the background , the system will lag like no tomorrow.
k!nex
post Jan 9 2022, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Jan 5 2022, 12:33 AM)
i was surveying new desktop, with i5, 8GB RAM, gtx1650
i don mind prebult as my current near 10 years old pc also branded prebuilt
if with GPU budget around 3.5k, if no about 2.5k
will add self another 8GB RAM for 16GB

was checking some brand

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/lenovo-i...&freeshipping=1

but older gen cpu, less storage only 256GB

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/acer-asp...&freeshipping=1

but only got 4GB RAM

https://www.dell.com/en-my/shop/desktop-com...p/hdi38911150my

this look ok, offer ssd + 1TB HDD
say max support gtx1650, but no an option to select, or if can add my self, mean i need wait after GPU price normal back, is ok i can wait
and i read a lot of say Dell support very good? and Dell use own part which board, PSU cannot change own self?

why not xps? is over my budget 4k
why not wait 12th gen? is over price as i see, even DDR5 price also
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For Dell prebuilts , the proprietary stuffs are:
1. Motherboard -> non standard form factor.
2. Power supppy -> non standard , especially the connectors and form factor. Not ATX , SFX or TFX
3. CPU cooler -> the holes are not the same as AM4 or Intel LGA spacing.
4. Casing - the power on button , reset connectors to the motherboard are proprietary.

The above stuff you have to buy replacements parts from Dell. Usually is refurbished only. Or used online from 3rd party seller.

Dell support is very good. I agree. Because even if u live in the jungles of Borneo , they will do onsite support warranty service for u. But hopefully u get 3 yrs warranty , usually stuffs can fail around 1 1/2 years if u are unlucky.
k!nex
post Jan 9 2022, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(targon @ Jan 9 2022, 05:26 PM)
Gtx 1650 is not going to last u for 5 years. All the available local 1650 are not even the super variant.
12400f +b660 ddr4 will serve u well. Just wait for Rx 6500xt or rtx 3050 and see how it goes.
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RX6500XT is gonna be trash for sure. 64 bit memory bus is a red flag already. It will be heavily starved of memory bandwidth.
Even if in non-gaming workload , RX6500 XT does not support AV1 decode which is what Youtube videos are currently moving to. So the CPU has to do it which is ridiculous , seeing all RTX 3000 series have hardware AV1 decode support.

 

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