You are being fed a typical narrative, it stops the questioning, because it seems that only the learned or qualified can explain properly/correctly. This while to some extent is true, does not stop you from learning and questioning why or how or what the expert thinks the way he did. He may be wrong, or based on a deviated belief or one you don't agree since religion is just an idea, a point of view, not something physical or real.

Obviously I am sure you notice without exceptions, all religions have many different interpretations even by those who have spent decades learning.

Interesting, let me combined some surah to make my narrative that it is ok to help clean other house of worship.

I'm not Muslim, I'm an atheist. I doing it to show how one can use any quran verse and any hadith to suit their needs  without picking 100% of its content. For me I'm just using Google. I don't recite 100% of quran.

In the Quran, Allah (swt) says: “Help one another in acts of piety and righteousness. And do not assist each other in acts of sinfulness and transgression. And be aware of Allah. Verily, Allah is severe in punishment” (Quran 5:2).

So quran asked follower to help fellow human. But some ask but they are people of different religion.

In quran, Muslim should respect people from other religion, they have their own God.

“Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians — whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.” (The Holy Quran 2:62 )

“…and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, ‘We are Christians,’ because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant” (The Holy Quran 5:82)

So people asked again, won't it become unintentional shirk because of cleaning house of worship for other religion?

What does quran said?

Say: 'Call upon other (gods) whom ye fancy, besides Allah. They have no power, not the weight of an atom, in the heavens or on earth: No (sort of) share have they therein, nor is any of them a helper to Allah." (34:22)
"Say: "Do ye see what it is ye invoke besides Allah. Show me what it is they have created on earth, or have they a share in the heavens bring me a book (revealed) before this, or any remnant of knowledge (ye may have), if ye are telling the truth!" (46:4)
"Behold, Luqman said to his son by way of instruction: 'O my son! join not in worship (others) with Allah. for false worship is indeed the highest wrong-doing.'" (31:13)

Have to asked the individual, when they clean other house of worship, do they :-

Supplicating, or praying for help, guidance and protection, etc., from others than Allah
Believing that objects have special "powers" of healing or good luck, even if that object includes Quranic writing or some other Islamic symbolism
Finding your purpose in life from material pursuits, desiring and intending for something other than Allah
Obeying others over Allah; showing that you are ready to disobey Allah's guidance when it suits you
Engaging in magic, sorcery or fortune telling that attempts to see the unseen or predict future events -- only Allah knows such things

If they didn't then there is no shirk.

Why so many butthurt in this thread.

Hello we disagree with this stupid extremist preacher. That's it.
Other races help you when susah,you happily accept. But when kindness return ada je yang panas buntot.

No such thing, there is nothing beyond a rational contextual translation or interpretation of the texts. it is just a line of silly argument to confuse the understanding that does not fall in line. Yeah, you don't know classical Arabic of the 7th century, so that the bottom line is it can't never be wrong or contradictory ever ...

That is your belief Islam is divine, but in reality it is only a mundane religion, an ideology of beliefs like every other religion that existed or still exist. It has been studied by scholars, both religious and secular which we can refer to when complicated contextualized often historical interpretation is required. Otherwise many simple texts are fairly straightforward and easy to understand.

The point is you assumed it is spiritual/divine hence it cannot be understood correctly prior to becoming a full fledged learned Muslim, but note that this is just your belief not rooted in reality.

You are mistaken, this is not about respecting your beliefs, nor getting some childish butthurt, this is about knowledge or epistemology. Anyone can make any claim about their beliefs, but there are ways we can use to ascertain the validity and veracity of those claims. But if you prefer to just make empty claim, empty because there is no basis or argument for it, you are welcomed to it too.

The point is saying this is such and such is not binding to anyone who doesn't share your belief, nor you can impose on others because it is not rooted in reality.

nak sekolahkan orang pasal Islam kt K ni mmg susah. Nak dorang (non mulsim) je betul dan menang sbb guna logic akal.

Tak faham Islam tapi acah2 tahu ilmu tauhid, fiqh, sirah, fardhu ain, tafsir, dsb.

Inilah masaalah yang dibelenggu muslim. Kepercayaan yang keterlaluan bukan pada agama, tapi pada manusia. Manusia yang kononnya pakar agama.

Kemudiannya wujudnya segelintir manusia ni yang memperalatkan pengikutnya untuk kepentingan peribadi diorang.

I bagi contoh di timur tengah, ada segelintir tok guru menyuruh pengikut dia berjihad. Mereka ni pakar agama, tak boleh dinafikan. Tahu ilmu tauhid, fiqh, sirah, fardhu ain, tafsir, dsb.
Cumanya, mereka menyesongkan pemikiran pengikut mereka untuk kepentingan mereka.
Tu yang jadinya pengebom berani mati atas nama tuhan.

Pointnya disini yang ingin saya tegaskan ialah jangan telan bulat bulat, tanya soalan. Uztaz terangkan melalui kitab, tapi dalam kitab yang sama, ada point point yang bercanggah, tu wujudnya persoalan. Tapi ada nak tanya? Takde.

Sebab mereka rasa ilmu mereka tak sehebat pakar. Hello, tanya untuk dapat lebih kepastian tak salah kan? Uztaz mana yang tak suka orang challenge dia ni tak layak jadi uztaz. Kata nak turunkan ilmu, orang tanya nak dapatkan ilmu takkan tak boleh?

Lagi satu yang i nampak, dalam ceramah 1 jam. Berapa jam ceramah mengajar kemanusiaan, berapa jam mengajar kerohanian dan hukum? Kemanusiaan / humanity itu penting. Tolong mangsa banjir, ni kemanusiaan. Cuba tengok rekod rekod video ceramah. Cuma 10% context kemanusiaan, kadang kala takde langsung menyentuh pasal kemanusiaan. Yang ditegaskan, apa yang tak boleh, dan hukum.

Kalau gitu, mufti penang kata boleh, uztaz turkey kata boleh, ni macam mana? Siapa betul, siapa salah?

Syirik tu apa? Macam mana boleh syirik? Orang yang bersihkan tempat ibadah lain tapi tak ada kepercayaan, tak ada sembah, niat cuma nak tolong mangsa banjir, esok masih pergi masjid sembahyang, tu syirik?

Kata Allah maha kuasa, serba tahu, amalan sembahyang tak elok (syirik) pun dia tahu , takkan orang yang tolong bersihkan tu ada sembah x de dan niat mereka allah tak tahu?

I tak tau pasal islam, tapi pada sudut pandangan kristian, hindu, buddhism, orang tu telah berbuat sesuatu perkara yang baik. Patut digalakkan niat untuk membantu mangsa banjir dan tidak sepatutnya diketepikan.

Kalau tak impak masyarakat, i pun takde masa nak layan.

Jangan kata islam, kuil dan gereja pun i takde masa nak pergi.
Masaalahnya bila ianya memberikan kesan pada kehidupan harian i. Itu menyebabkan suatu masaalah bagi i, baru i bersuara.

Contohnya, i pi supermarket, beli daging, dulu i tak perlu jalan satu round besar pi non halal seksyen. Bayar boleh bayar semua kat satu kaunter.

Sekarang, nak beli ikan , ayam, kena pergi satu seksyen, bayar. Pastu heret satu dua bungkus pi seksyen non halal, kena letak bungkusan yang baru dibeli kat pak guard masuk beli pastu kena bayar berasingan. Menyusahkan.

Bab ni boleh kita terima, hidup bermasyarakat, susah sikit takpe. Pastu, sekarang ni, toto magnum nak beli, hari cabutan dikurangkan. Okay, kurangkan judi pun baik jugak

Pastu ada mintak alkohol tak boleh dijual, ni haram jadah mana ni yang menyusahkan kehidupan orang lain?

Ni lagi satu, pada bulan puasa. Nak puasa orang tak halang, tapi yang pi halang orang tak puasa makan sebab apa? Logiknya mana? Hukum agama apa korang pakai menghalang orang yang tak wajib puasa makan?  Nak bukak kedai makan (bulan puasa) buat business pun tak bagi. Ni quran mana, hadith mana yang dipetik suruh buat gitu?

Pastu, kata orang islamophobia bila kita bersuara.

That is a strawman you are pulling, what empty brain except you own making? You haven't even talked about anything religious except butt off and feeling offended. Sheesh.

We are not intolerant, just following some set of rules, lol ok. It is not intolerance if we don't help clean other houses of worship after a disaster. It's just a set of rules we must follow, nothing intolerant about it 

Like saying, I am not punching you, I'm just following set neural impulses to move my fist towards you. So no, it's not a punch ya

My point is 2, the set of religious rules are fluid depending on how you want to interpret them. 2nd by forbidding Muslim to help, out of kindness is being intolerant. You can give 10 reasons why your religion forbids but when it comes to greater good or noble moral value/obligation, it is just being intolerant. If you look from the outside or on some other religion being selfish, you would understand better..

lol me butthurt for what. I actually finds it hilarious how you twist and turn logic to justify your intolerance.

We follow set of rules therefore it is not intolerance, lol indeed 

Let me create a new religion that advocates killing of anybody that does not believe in my new god. But hey, we follow set of rules therefore it is not murder lmao 

Cannot refute the analogy, attack the analogy itself lol.

With worshippers like you, Islam do not need enemies. You are doing awesome job yourself defiling the good name of your faith

We are following set of rules, therefore it is not intolerance... seriously?